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Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Sat Nov 15, 2003 4:52 am

Gore's recent comments that (something to the tune of) Bush thinks he can get Usama bin Ladin by attacking Iraq makes no sense kinda makes me do a little reflection.

When Gore was figuratively one door down from the President's office, I believe we were fighting a war in Kosovo around the time that Clinton was declaring that Saddam had WMD's (chemical, biological, and yes, nuclear) AND we were getting attacked by Usama every other year.

Gee, maybe if THEY had taken care of business instead of appeasement, containment, and "coping strategies", Bush wouldn't HAVE to be fighting multiple front wars now.

Oh, yeah, I forgot..."Bush lied" about the WMD's, right? Then I guess Clinton lied too, then, huh?

You don't have to answer that. We don't need another pie-in-the-sky conspiracy theory of how Saddam secretly got rid of them all during the last few years of Clinton while he was going uninspected by the UN despite Clinton's SEVERAL "last chances" to comply.

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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Sat Nov 15, 2003 5:15 am

1. There are no Weapons of Mass Destruction.
2. Clinton didn't start a war in Iraq that subsequently turned into a quagmire (50+ troops dead since Nov. 1).

I thought Republicans were the party that believed in taking personal responsibility for one's actions?

Bush claimed that he had evidence (that was too sensitive to show us) the proved Iraq possessed WMDs, then when none were found, maintained that we went to war to free a people from a cruel despot. If you look back at his debates with Gore in 2000, you will see that he stated very specifically and emphatically that the U.S. shouldn't be in the business of nation-building.

Just once, I'd like to see this phony-baloney pretender that we call "president" own up to his words and his deeds.

And your rhetoric, by the way, is terribly sad. Basically, what you are saying is "Well Dubya didn't do anything that Clinton didn't do." Is that the best you can say for your man?

He will go down in history as one of the worst presidents we ever had.
 
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Sat Nov 15, 2003 5:19 am

You don't have to answer that.

Amen to that!

Let's lock up the thread right now and avoid the upcoming mud-slinging!
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Sat Nov 15, 2003 5:27 am

Maybe if Gore and his buddy Bill had gone after bin Laden, Bush wouldn't have to be dealing with the current war on terror. Heck, Sudan even offered to turn bin Laden over to the U.S. but Klintoon rejected it.
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Sat Nov 15, 2003 5:41 am

I still think Kennedy takes the cake as the worst.. followed closely by fuck the fat chicks Clinton.. Bush took care of a mess in Iraq that should have been handled 12 years ago by the UN
 
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Sat Nov 15, 2003 7:23 am

Bush took care of a mess in Iraq...

What's that again? Uh, what about the mess he's created? Or did that slip your right-leaning mind? He's created a situation that is getting worse and worse, and you're actually giving him CREDIT for that? God help us!
 
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Sat Nov 15, 2003 7:34 am

Uh, what about the mess he's created?

It can be validly argued that pre-2003 was even more of a mess. Maybe not so expensive for the U.S., but far more so for Iraqis. People were dying by the tens of thousands every month, according to the U.N.

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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Sat Nov 15, 2003 7:50 am

"Heck, Sudan even offered to turn bin Laden over to the U.S. but Klintoon rejected it. "

You're so _____, don't you think Clinton was doing Bush a favor?

What's with the Bush-Clinton crap? The economic boom of the 90's should not have occurred if a democrat was in charge cuz they do not like mergers and monopolizing as if goes against the idea of giving a darn for the employees. They are both from the south; they think the same and are playing for the same team. If the only differences to some people are their "morals", well geez, do you really need me to tell you?
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Sat Nov 15, 2003 9:29 am

The economic boom of the 90's should not have occurred if a democrat was in charge cuz they do not like mergers and monopolizing as if goes against the idea of giving a darn for the employees.

I'm not sure I understand this.. Are you saying that there were few mergers and "monopolizing" during the previous administration? The "merger and acquisition spree" has been going strong for the past ten years+

I may have misinterpreted..
 
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Sun Nov 16, 2003 12:59 am

How would Gore know something like that... Back then he was too busy building the Internet...........

 
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Sun Nov 16, 2003 2:16 am

The thing that always troubled me.. If Al Gore invented the internet why do all the addresses start with www?
 
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Sun Nov 16, 2003 4:39 am

Al Gore never claimed to have "invented" the internet for fuck's sake. He rightly took credit for being one of the first people in government to see the mass potential of the internet's predecessor (can't remember what it was called) and steered a bill through congress / senate / whatever the US equivalent of parliment is, which gave masses of funding to research and development. He didn't invent it and never claimed to, but rightfully took credit for being an important champion of the net in the early days.

Take a quote out of context (or just make one up), post it somewhere on the (spot the irony) internet, then get the Washington Times to quote that, then get Fox News to refer to that, and...TA DA! You've got Gore claiming to have "invented the internet".
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Sun Nov 16, 2003 5:59 am

B757300,
after reading a lot of your posts I can conclude we are on different wavelengths politically, but I have to admit that this time you are absolutely right.

Clinton f**ked up big time. And Sudan, which wanted to move back a bit from fundamentalism was practically begging the US to go get him. It was like, "OK US there he is, now I'll just go out for a quart of milk. If he's dead or gone, I don't know nothin'" Our gov't refused. After that Sudan allowed him to go to Afghanistan since he was no longer welcome in Sudan. A big opportunity lost.

***

This of course doesn't make the invasion of Iraq any less stupid. Best recruiting poster for UBL in a while. No WMD's and while Saddam is a tyrant, there are a shitload of tyrants out there whom we don't seem to care about.
And I still wonder if a "free, democratic Iraq" will be one free to demand Euros instead of dollars for its oil, free to contract with Lukoil or Elf instead of ExxonMobil, free to keep the oil industry non-privatized, or free to tell the US military to leave the country if that is what the people and the leaders the people elect decide is in Iraq's best interest. I oubt it but I hope I'm proven wrong.


PS I do think most of Iraq's industry should be gradually privatized so it would be efficient, but my point was that that should be a decision made by Iraqi's when they have their country back, not by Bremer, the CPA, or the hand-picked governing Council.
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Sun Nov 16, 2003 6:13 am

Cedarjet said: "Take a quote out of context (or just make one up), post it somewhere on the (spot the irony) internet, then get the Washington Times to quote that, then get Fox News to refer to that, and...TA DA! You've got Gore claiming to have "invented the internet".

Brilliant he is huh?

Who gives a rat's ass about what Gore says anyway?...he has absolutely zero politcal clout. He is just plain old Al Gore, citizen. . . And inventor of the Internet.

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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Sun Nov 16, 2003 6:32 am

Jeff M, I was talking about how a political candidate can be smeared, not how they can self-aggrandise. My point is that Gore was made to look like an idiot, on this particular issue, because a claim he didn't actually make was given weight because it was repeated enough times.

In the spirit of fair play, I should tell you that while I think Krusty could do a better job than Bush, I was no fan of Gore either. It just irritates me when people cite Republican lies to prove a point - as though it does them or the Republicans any good to do so! We all heard the "If Al Gore invented the internet, why does it start with dubya-dubya-dubya" line at least two years ago, it wasn't based in fact then, it sure isn't now.
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Sun Nov 16, 2003 6:56 am

Of course Cedarjet has a good point; the repetition of vaguely-in-context quotes and jokes tend to stick, and all of a sudden we have Al Gore as the inventor of the "Internet" (however, I really think he does deserve a patent on the "lock box"), and other such stuff as George Bush being a dummy, to which I would ask, how many of you folks calling him a dummy are/were certified jet pilots, and if you are/were, did you ever fly combat jets? Bush may have been "AWOL" from a few Air Guard duties, and may screw up verbally in public, but I have never, ever met a dummy who can/could be qualified in a jet fighter (except Tom Cruise).

Perhaps we should all take a look at what we like and/or dislike about a person's performance rather than attack the individual ad hominomly as Cedarjet suggests. Regards...Jack
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Sun Nov 16, 2003 12:57 pm

JeffM - If Gore is just a plain citizen.... does that make bush a homeless native american?
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Sun Nov 16, 2003 1:29 pm

Vitaly,

I'm not sure I understand your question...
My point is Gore does not hold elected office. Same as you and me.

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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Mon Nov 17, 2003 12:48 am

JeffM, I would think very carefully before you claim that Bush does hold elected office. Even if he won (who knows - I know what I think, and I bet I know what you think too), he took office by Supreme Court appointment, so it's 'appointed office' really, isn't it?
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:17 am

No, and I am not going down that road. And if you please, discontinue making suggestions on what I should and should not claim on a silly forum post.

The President is elected to office.

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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:20 am


The President is elected to office.


Not this president.
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:29 am

Not this president.

Yes this president. If you don't like the election procedure then say so...
 
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:44 am

He was appointed not elected.
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Mon Nov 17, 2003 3:40 am

Jeff M, you're the one going down 'that' road by saying Bush was elected. No-one's denying the man is president, or that Gore is not. But you're the one who claimed he was elected. I'm not even saying he lost at the polls, I don't know. I am however saying that the ballot boxes were ultimately not the route by which he took office. The man was appointed by the Republican Supreme Court. End of conversation.
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Mon Nov 17, 2003 3:44 am

Ha ha ha....you say the end of conversation.... Good for you if it makes you feel better.

The court UPHELD the results, the court cannot appoint a President. Don't spin the results, your not that good at it.


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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:03 am

>>>I am however saying that the ballot boxes were ultimately not the route by which he took office. The man was appointed by the Republican Supreme Court. End of conversation.<<<

Perhaps you might research this topic a bit more closely. Try to glean some knowledge from facts and not personal prejudice. Attempt to use resources that are not, in fact, just a vehicle for someone with an axe to grind. You might learn something in the process. Perhaps foremost is just because something doesn't go your way doesn't necessarily mean malevolent forces are at fault.

Personnally, voting in 2000, my mind wasn't made up until I entered the polling place. My choice, John McCain wasn't in the picture, due to our presidential primary system. I voted for Bush but wasn't really comfortable with either candidate. Bush though, everything in consideration was the lessor of two evils. His public communication skills, though, were abysmal, I just prayed nothing earth shaking would occur during his term.

9/11 came upon us and Bush's leadership was a great and welcome surprise. Though many Americans and citizens throughout the world dislike the man and the job he's doing. In regard to 9/11's aftermath, he IMO is making thankless, unpopular, easily secondguessable decisions.
The tough policy choices he has made are compounded by his poor public communication skills and thus having subordinates be the administrations mouthpiece. If Clinton or Reagan had made the identical decisions, under the same partisan environment their superior communication skills would better enhance public confidence allowing more leeway in executing its global strategy. Unfortunately partison politics try to morph setbacks into policy failures. Yet regardless of this, I feel he is on the right track, though not by any measure the easy track.

Yet only history can determine if he made the right decisions by a public untainted by contemporary dislike, unpopularity or wartime partison party politics rather honest retrospect.
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:06 am

Umm JeffM - A court can infact appoint someone president.... it's been done in the Jefferson/Burr election way back when... and it was done this time too. The 12th amendment (I believe) was written because of the Jefferson/Burr conflict.

This was actually done by the house of Reps.

The 12th Amendment provides the following: (1) separate ballots are used for each office; (2) persons with the greatest number of votes for each office will be elected if that number constitutes a majority of the total electors; (3) if no such majority is met for either or both of the two highest offices, the House of Representatives will then vote for the president from among the three highest candidates and the Senate will vote for the vice-president from among the two highest candidates; (4) no person constitutionally ineligible to be president can be vice-president.

^ http://gi.grolier.com/presidents/aae/side/12amend.html ^
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:12 am

He was appointed not elected.

David, Every recount ever made confirmed it. Bush won the election in Florida. He won most of the states. He won the most electoral votes. I.e. he was elected.

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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:16 am

Here we go round the mulberry bush, the mulberry bush, the mulberry bush...

Do you guys actually think you'll be able to convince eachother of your opinions?
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:16 am

Enough of this shit that Bush didn't win the election fair and square. He did. The Supreme Court should have thrown it back to the state of Florida, that's true, but EVERY SINGLE RECOUNT has shown Bush won Florida norrowly, but he won, every time any one has counted. Why can't some of you get that through your heads?
 
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Mon Nov 17, 2003 8:30 am

Because Gore won the popular vote of the whole country, dah.... I wish the republicans had the same compassion for the "poor Americans" that they have for the "poor Iraqis" ....
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Mon Nov 17, 2003 8:52 am

The popular vote means diddly squat in this country. There is no such thing as a national election... we only have local elections, the max of which is the state level. You may not agree with it, sometimes I don't, but that's just the way it is. You can't dislike the outcome of the game with certain rules after the fact and then complain someone cheated.
 
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Mon Nov 17, 2003 8:54 am

That's o.k. I'm done. I won't have a battle of wits with an un-armed person or persons. It's just not fair.

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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Mon Nov 17, 2003 9:01 am

I personally think that the Florida results are so murky that it is quite impossible to say that Bush won. I frankly believe he probably should have lost. I'm not talking about the poorly designed W. Palm Beach ballots. If people can't take the time to examine ballots then they deserve what they get. I'm not even talking about the pregnant and hanging chad MBSW. I do dispute that every simgle recount had Bush ahead, I'd like sources. But the biggest thing is, I do remember, how a lot of eligible voters were stricken from the rolls and not allowed to vote, either because they were supposedly convicted felons when they weren't and supposedly were duplicates when they weren't. A lot of those stricken happened to be from black counties. I'm not alleging racism. I'm not alleging that everyone who was stricken from the rolls should not have been. But it seemed to me when I read the news reports that there was enough funny business to question what would have happened had the eligible voters been able to vote. Since a large proportion of black voters are democratic, it likely could have tipped the margin to Gore. Thus if a recount had Bush ahead, he still could have really lost the election. If there is updated info that settles this as a red herring, I'd love to get a hyperlink.
http://www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/stories/01/11/fla.hearings/

http://www.ljworld.com/section/election2000/story/36276

http://www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/stories/01/12/fla.hearings/
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Mon Nov 17, 2003 11:04 am

What winning the popular vote in the Presidential election in the US means : JACK SHIT

What winning the electoral vote in the US Presidential Election means: You are President of the United States PERIOD no ifs, ands or buts. You win You are in charge.

Isn't it a bit late now to be contesting the 2000 election?
 
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Mon Nov 17, 2003 11:23 am

The republicans are getting quite the reputation for seizing power, here in the US and in the middle east. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. Jeb Bush helping his bro Dubya become prez. Dubya kicking Saddams ass for the old man, and plenty of oil for all their rich Texas oil folks.... What a clan we have in control .... But, at least they aren't getting blow jobs in the oral office.
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Mon Nov 17, 2003 12:47 pm

Wow....when did they start a popular vote?

So can a team score more runs in the world series, yet loose it? Can't wait to hear your response to this one. Think now...don't blow it.

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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Mon Nov 17, 2003 12:56 pm

Dc10guy, for the one millionth time, GEORGE BUSH WON THE ELECTION FAIR AND SQUARE! Why can't some people, like yourself, get that through your think heads? EVERY RECOUNT, despite what the Supremes did, shows Bush won. Should the Supremes have taken the case? No. Was their decision a very partisian one? Yes. Did it make one bit of difference? No, because every single recount has showed that Bush won by a narrow margian.

Some people don't like that I harp on Bush. But I try to harp on him on things that I believe are meaningful. You and others who constatly harp on the election, as if it was stolen, or was handed to Bush by his brother, or some other such nonsense, are denying reality. Go read; go research, and find out the truth-Bush won, he was elected, fairly, by how the American system elects a President. Get the hell over it.
 
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:28 pm

Fair and square Alpha1 ??? Have you been drinking Cuyahoga river water ??? You have got to be kidding me. I have come to terms with Bush being prez. But I will never buy the "far & square" thing.
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:33 pm

Fine, then don't come to terms with reality, pal. The facts are there: EVERY SINGLE RECOUNT SHOWS BUSH WON!! What part of that do you not come to terms with or not understand.

You don't like Bush, but you take it to a naive extreme, just to satisfy your ultra-liberal slant. He won the election. He won the electoral votes. It's there for all to see, unless they're not totally blind or completely naive. I didn't vote for Bush, but I wasn't blind to the fact that he won the election fair and square. It was contested, and I had no trouble with Gore contesting it, so close it was. But the vote is there-he won. Get the hell over it!
 
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:40 pm

Alpha1, Its the "fair & square" thing I have a problem with. And NO I won't get the hell over it. O.K. ???
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:41 pm

Can you answer the world series question?
 
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:43 pm

What part of it wasn't "fair and square"? In the end, the only thing that matters is how the votes have been counted, and the count, every single time, has favored Bush. And don't get over-live a miserable existence, that's fine by me.
 
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Mon Nov 17, 2003 2:01 pm

I know its a sore subject for some of you, but had Al Gore simply won HIS HOME STATE of Tennessee, the Florida results would have been a moot point.

In the post World War II era, it's somewhat of an embarrasment in American presidential elections for a candidate not to win his home state. The last person prior to Gore not win his home state was in 1972 and it was George McGovern of South Dakota. Adlai Stevenson failed to win Illinois twice in 1952 and 1956.

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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Mon Nov 17, 2003 2:08 pm

JeffM, In the world series the team with the most runs wins. Seems pretty simple to me. Why can't you figure that out ??? Here is my question. How is that even close to what happened in the 2000 election ??? Alpha 1 you sure are the typical buckeye. Don't you know when to shut-up ??? I'll bet you drive slow in the left lane too......
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Mon Nov 17, 2003 2:09 pm

VectorVictor, that's a home-run point, and that is correct. Al took his home state for granted, and shouldn't have done that. More than Florida, losing Tennessee cost him what he has aspired for for a long time, namely the white House. If he does that, no one bitches about Florida.

But either way, Bush won Florida. That is undeniable excpet to those who simply don't want to deal in reality.
 
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Tue Nov 18, 2003 12:28 am

Dc10guy, your wrong. Let's look at this :
......---Team A Team B
game1.....8..........0
game2.....10........0
game3.....9.........10
game4.....5..........6
game5.....0..........1
game6.....5..........0
game7.....0..........1

total......37.........18

Team A loses the world series, yet outscores Team B by 19 runs.

How is that close to what happened in the 200 election? Easy. He who wins the most states votes wins, not the guy who had the most individual votes. Simple.
 
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Tue Nov 18, 2003 7:16 am

JeffM, O.K. Dude lets add this to your example. Say in game 7 they lost track of the score and left it up to team A to decide who wins. Would that be fair ??? Now I think that's a little closer to what happened in the 2000 election. Your example is a good one if things where "fair & square". But they weren't.
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Tue Nov 18, 2003 7:19 am

DC10, get over it, Bush won the election, by the rules and by law he is the president, get over it and move on, no matter how much you whine and complain and try to rationalize otherwise, he won. Thats the fact.
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RE: Gore Says Bush Is Fighting The Wrong War?

Tue Nov 18, 2003 7:20 am

My example stands. It was done correctly, you can't say "What if".
That is just assinine. Your beginning to look more foolish each time you respond. I guess what the others have been IM'ing me is correct.

sorry, that is just the way it is.


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