milesar
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England And The World Cup

Sun Dec 07, 2003 1:47 pm

I’ve said it heaps of times already, and I'll say it again! Way to go England! 2003 Rugby world champs! Thanks for bringing the cup to the north for the first time.

Word has it that Beckham is feeling good about the next Fifa world cup for his team, do you think England will be able to take another cup home in the near future? Maybe the momentum can carry onto the soccer pitch...

Also, how about things on the Cricket side?

Cheers,
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RE: England And The World Cup

Sun Dec 07, 2003 7:26 pm

WOW!! Bawling Becky has a good feeling about Germany 2006...? So have we, trust me on this one, and England - well at least the "Sun" - has always felt extremely confident BEFORE THE EVENT that the cup will come to England, unfortunately, it never happened, and I'm afraid, it never will Big grin  Big grin Big grin
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RE: England And The World Cup

Sun Dec 07, 2003 9:19 pm

Cricket....No chance....Maybe Darts.

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RE: England And The World Cup

Sun Dec 07, 2003 10:12 pm

B-O-R-I-N-G
They've already shown Jonathon Wilkinson on TV about 50 million times.
Yawn...its nearly as bad as 1966  Angry  Angry
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RE: England And The World Cup

Sun Dec 07, 2003 11:10 pm

Too bad the Scots and Germans don't play Rugby, the scots do play, but to put them in the same sentence as "champions" is embarassing.  Big thumbs up Same story with football.

For England, it's TWO world cups now.  Big grin


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milesar
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RE: England And The World Cup

Mon Dec 08, 2003 12:35 am

How about the pool standings, any ideas on how they are going to look? Seems as though at the last cup, certain teams had a much easier way to the front than others. Do you think that because these certain team(s) are hosting the cup in 2006 they will get an easy route to the top? (granted that no route is easy, but some certainly have perks over others)

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RE: England And The World Cup

Mon Dec 08, 2003 5:29 am

As far as the cricket is concerned, it'll be interesting to see how they are in a few years time. At the moment they struggle to put out their strongest side. Simon Jones is a long term injury, Steve Harmison is always injured, Andy Caddick (OK, coming to the end) is injured, James Anderson (a seriosu prospect this one) is often injured. They pulled off a terrific draw against Sri Lanka at Galle this weekend, batting 108 overs on the last day. Non aficionados might not see the value in that, but virtually all teams get slaughtered there mainly by Murali so it does show a degree of backbone. They are a long way behind Australia, but their two big bowling weapons, McGrath and Warne are reaching the end of the road in the next few years so they might not be quite the force they were.

England are arguably the number two side in the world (ranked third) so they are improving. The football team have the potential, and the rugby team are world champions.

It's looking better than it has for some time, but a lot of work to go yet. One thing that might make a big difference, especially to the footballers, is seeing the reaction to the rugby team. I'm sure they'd like a bit of that adulation.
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RE: England And The World Cup

Mon Dec 08, 2003 9:13 am

No offence to the English guys on here, cos your msotly a good bunch, but the media is going too far, if anyone tries to show the "parade" in Scotland they should probably be killed  Angry Its annoying when you have to listen to this all the time.
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RE: England And The World Cup

Mon Dec 08, 2003 10:34 pm

Well Kirkie, lets face it it doesn't happen very often so you can't blame the celebrations. I'm sure if Scotland had won the trophy it would have been the same. I agree the media is too jingoistic (personally I would ban all national flags from sporting occasions - far too jingoinstic) but we have waited too long for a moment like this to simply do nothing about it.
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RE: England And The World Cup

Mon Dec 08, 2003 10:49 pm

After the drawing of the qualification groups for WC 2006 Daily Mirror titled "Where the hell is Azerbaidschan?"

See what I mean...?  Big grin


But rest assured, friends from the island, you'll soon find out, bawling all the way home after getting a swift ass-kicking there... Big grin
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RE: England And The World Cup

Tue Dec 09, 2003 1:48 am

Ryanb741: Yeah, your allowed to celebrate but why televise it over the whole of Britain. Nobody cares about it up here...
Oh, and Arsenal@LHR...Wheesht  Laugh out loud
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RE: England And The World Cup

Tue Dec 09, 2003 2:00 am

Because, Kirkie, you're in irrelevant adjunct to the mighty nation of England. You may not care about England winning the world Cup, but then you're a complete irrelevance of a pimple on the English state...  Big grin

Or perhaps not.  Big grin Having nearly a million people on the the streets celebrating is an event worthy of news coverage, but joking aside, the English do make up 85% of the population, so it's hardly surprising that it gets such coverage. But if New Zealand can do so well with fewer people than the Scots, why can't you? If you can take the pain and tranform it into a desire to be better than England at rugby (football might be a bit of step too far with the relative sizes) then you can have your fun too.
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RE: England And The World Cup

Tue Dec 09, 2003 10:05 am

Banco...remember 1967 at Wembley?  Big thumbs up
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RE: England And The World Cup

Tue Dec 09, 2003 4:20 pm

I've just seen footage of the RWC celebrations in London.

I've just seen an ephogy of a Kangaroo painted in the English colours being thrown around by the crowd.





I've just seen English people singing (to the tune of "Yellow Submarine") : "You all live in a convict colony."

Time to launch the nukes methinks. What bad sportsmanship.

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RE: England And The World Cup

Tue Dec 09, 2003 4:59 pm

Not as bad as your Prime Minister having a face like a slapped arse when he handed over the cup!

All those people, no trouble, just a celebration. A good day had by all it seems, I know English people are not supposed to be allowed to celebrate or feel good about themselves, ever, well maybe you don't know us that well.

But your Anglophobia is getting old, if you hate us so much why go to oz with all it's links to the UK? (and bitch all you like about that, it's a fact, and no WE don't care if you go Republican).

Most Aussies I've met are great, a good laugh, good sports (in both senses of the word) sure YOU fit in?

 
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RE: England And The World Cup

Tue Dec 09, 2003 7:26 pm

Not as bad as your Prime Minister having a face like a slapped arse when he handed over the cup!

The reason behind this has been well explained and had nothing to do with sour grapes.

All those people, no trouble, just a celebration. A good day had by all it seems, I know English people are not supposed to be allowed to celebrate or feel good about themselves, ever, well maybe you don't know us that well.

Uh, when have I ever said that the english aren't allowed to celebrate their victories? NEVER. Of course England should have a parade. When Australia wins a great sporting victory and celebrates with a parade, we don't make a habit of slamming the losing country.

But your Anglophobia is getting old, if you hate us so much why go to oz with all it's links to the UK? (and bitch all you like about that, it's a fact, and no WE don't care if you go Republican).

Anglophobia!? I assure you I'm not one bit afraid of England or the English. I don't care what you think about the republic and I never have done. I like Australia because it is a diverse country with far more to it than links to the UK!

Most Aussies I've met are great, a good laugh, good sports (in both senses of the word) sure YOU fit in?

So despite the fact that I have congratulated the English team on numerous occasions and here we have English people in a celebration of the win ridiculing Australia - I'm the bad sport? Yeah riiiight.

And yeah - I do belong to this country and I'm proud of it. I'm proud of the fact that despite criticism from England we pick ourselves up and go at it ten times harder.

Because you see in this country we do not make a habit of belittling the nations we defeat on the sporting field. One link that perhaps we can export to you?

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RE: England And The World Cup

Tue Dec 09, 2003 8:11 pm

Look, we know you feel bitter about losing the world cup, but there's no need to start finding things to moan about England. Yesterday was a special day, hundreds of thousands of people turned up to see the parade. Big deal you saw a solitary ephogy of a kangaroo being thrown around, there are morons in every society. Deal with it and get over it.
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RE: England And The World Cup

Tue Dec 09, 2003 9:11 pm

QF, your always having a pop, usually it's some imagined conspiracy involving the Queen, now it's one or two graceless people out of at least 750,000.
Did the media really focus on that over there? Well maybe it's because they made such fools of themselves before the game, Johnny Wilkinson voodoo dolls indeed!
Take comfort that our media, or the tabloid part anyway, is just as bad, with football at least.
But that was not the spirit of the huge crowd yesterday, quite the opposite in fact, sorry if we weren't a bunch of miseries moaning about the weather and doffing our caps to Royalty, must be a shock to have your impressions so cruelly proved wrong.
We don't win that often (as you have no doubt reminded us), so expect a celebration on a grand scale, I just wish that our football players were as sporting, modest, articulate and now successful, as our Rugby players.
 
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RE: England And The World Cup

Wed Dec 10, 2003 5:34 am

Look, we know you feel bitter about losing the world cup, but there's no need to start finding things to moan about England.

Bitter about losing the world cup?! How petty. As I've said numerous times I congratulate the English team on a fine win (the fact I say this is constantly ignored - why???).

QF, your always having a pop, usually it's some imagined conspiracy involving the Queen, now it's one or two graceless people out of at least 750,000.

A conspiracy theorist now am I? What a ridiculous accusation.

Did the media really focus on that over there? Well maybe it's because they made such fools of themselves before the game, Johnny Wilkinson voodoo dolls indeed!

Well feel free to hate Australia because of it. Indeed their conduct before the game was quite reprehensible and unfair. However it was congratulations and adulation all around for the English after the win. Please keep that in mind.

But that was not the spirit of the huge crowd yesterday, quite the opposite in fact, sorry if we weren't a bunch of miseries moaning about the weather and doffing our caps to Royalty, must be a shock to have your impressions so cruelly proved wrong.

I assure you that my impressions of England are based on fact rather than a hopeless and dated stereotype as with the revellers at the parade. Now you can finally understand how frustrating perceived stereotypes can be. Your empathy is indeed refreshing.

We don't win that often (as you have no doubt reminded us), so expect a celebration on a grand scale, I just wish that our football players were as sporting, modest, articulate and now successful, as our Rugby players.

Please inform me of when I have ever gloated about Australia's sporting success? Or when I have ever made a point of saying that the english rarely win on the sporting field? I'd like to know where you got that from.

And I want to make it crystal clear to you that I have never and probably will never level any criticism toward the team themselves. They have conducted themselves gracefully and fairly. They are champions and good sportsmen in every sense of the words. A true example to be followed.

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