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Aid To Iran Earthquake Victims

Sun Dec 28, 2003 8:00 am

As everyone will no doubt be aware an earthquake has decimated a town in Iran killing an estimated 40,000 people, or approximately 50% of the town's population!  Sad For those who wish to provide assistance I am posting a link to the Red Cross's appeal for this tragedy.

http://www.ifrc.org/what/disasters/response/iran.asp

Best regards

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RE: Aid To Iran Earthquake Victims

Sun Dec 28, 2003 8:25 am

Yeah, everyone, give to the Red cross for this horrible tragedy.

Oh yeah, the Red cross will keep more than half of the money you donate to the cuase, but hey, that's capitalism for ya. Fuckin rats.
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RE: Aid To Iran Earthquake Victims

Sun Dec 28, 2003 9:41 am

If memory serves, Khatami offered his condolences folloiwng 9/11 but as stopped short of offering aid and assistance by the Ayatollah.

FWIW, I definitely think we should offer aid, support, and assistance and do all we can if, for no other reason, but to undermine the Ayatollah's insistence that the US is "The Great Satan," to further better American-Iranian relations, and to further prove to the populace that the political moderates and liberals in Iran, like Khatami, are in the right in desiring a thaw in relations with the US.
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RE: Aid To Iran Earthquake Victims

Sun Dec 28, 2003 10:03 am

If I recall, there was a modicum of sympathy in Iran to the USA after 911, notwithstanding the some of the fundamentalists running the country.

I do recall seeing many Palestinians experiencing great joy over the deaths and suffering of Americans on 911. No doubt others as well.

Is the Red "Cross" allowed in Iran? Or is it the Red Crescent? Are these the same organization?

 
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RE: Aid To Iran Earthquake Victims

Sun Dec 28, 2003 10:18 am

I'm plan to send a donation. Iran has actually been pretty helpful in the war on terrorism. I have a couple friends that are from Iran and they certainly arent terrorists.

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RE: Aid To Iran Earthquake Victims

Sun Dec 28, 2003 10:52 am

Red Cross and Red Crescent are both subsidiaries of the International Committee of the Red Cross. Red Crescent is merely the ICRC's branch to be utilized in Muslim nations
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RE: Aid To Iran Earthquake Victims

Sun Dec 28, 2003 11:16 am

And it should be noted that the Red Cross isn't a religious organisation - the "cross" is from the Swiss flag. The Cresent is used in areas of the world where people could assume the cross implies it's a Christian organisation, leading to problems.
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RE: Aid To Iran Earthquake Victims

Sun Dec 28, 2003 11:50 am

Here, by law, charities are only required to givve 11% of their collection to the actual cause.

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RE: Aid To Iran Earthquake Victims

Sun Dec 28, 2003 12:09 pm

So, if many of these muslims think they see a "cross", even if it is simply a geometric shape, they think it might be Christian, and that "leads to problems"?

Therefore, instead of it becoming the Red Circle, it is made into an Islamic Symbol?
 
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RE: Aid To Iran Earthquake Victims

Sun Dec 28, 2003 12:36 pm

Oh lay off, cicadajet. Keep in mind what the Swiss cross itself represents - a comemoration of the Crusades, in and of itself not Christianity's brightest hour and certainly not a reminder you want when working alongside Muslims.
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RE: Aid To Iran Earthquake Victims

Sun Dec 28, 2003 12:44 pm

ok, then, fair enough. I wasn't asking if the Red Cross was a Religious organization. If it IS a Cross then I guess it needs to be a Red Crescent..
 
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RE: Aid To Iran Earthquake Victims

Sun Dec 28, 2003 1:33 pm

I just find it surprising that JeffM wrote in the original post about the earthquake: "I'd like to see all countries send help."

Yet here he seems to be advocating the opposite.
 
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RE: Aid To Iran Earthquake Victims

Sun Dec 28, 2003 2:01 pm

give your old blankets and jumpers, it's a harsh winter in Iran and these items will be needed especially!

thats if it's in your hearts to give, i donated personally to the RedCrescent society and will go to the local RedCross and give my old clothes and woolen blankets.

do something positive for your fellow humans, it might make you feel better knowing that a life maybe saved from your donation!

 
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RE: Aid To Iran Earthquake Victims

Sun Dec 28, 2003 2:13 pm

I did say I would like to see ALL countries give aid. But we know they won't, and nothing will be said. The US is sending aid as I knew it would. How it arrives should not be a point of contention to the people in my opinion. Don't turn it away if it comes from the Red Cross. Be thankful.

I won't be sending any additional money. My taxes are being spent as we write.

I don't advocate sending money to the Red Cross (see Big Phil's remarks).

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RE: Aid To Iran Earthquake Victims

Sun Dec 28, 2003 2:44 pm

Iran has stated publicly that they will accept aid from every country, with the exception of Israel. This is from the BBC coverage.

Which is pathetic.

Israel has one of the most experianced search dog teams in the world, which have been sent to earthquakes in Turkey and Armenia in the past.

But the Iranian's anti-semitism is going to condemm her people, victims of this disaster to death.
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RE: Aid To Iran Earthquake Victims

Sun Dec 28, 2003 2:51 pm

I did say I would like to see ALL countries give aid.

I agree....this is a horrible tragedy. By the same argument, Iran should accept ALL offered aid...including any offered by Israel. To refuse it outright, is playing politics with human tragedy as Iran appears to be doing.

Considerable aid should also be forthcoming from Kuwait, the UAE & Saudi Arabia....all wealthy (Muslim) neighbours with very high PCI....they can well afford to provide significant aid. It will be interesting to see whether they do.





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RE: Aid To Iran Earthquake Victims

Sun Dec 28, 2003 9:20 pm

Yes, it´s pathetic by the Iranians, the Israelis done good job in Turkey during earthquakes there.
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RE: Aid To Iran Earthquake Victims

Mon Dec 29, 2003 1:33 am

Considerable aid should also be forthcoming from Kuwait, the UAE & Saudi Arabia....all wealthy (Muslim) neighbours with very high PCI....they can well afford to provide significant aid. It will be interesting to see whether they do.

They have done, so reports the BBC.
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