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The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Sat Jan 03, 2004 9:37 pm

I did a search and only found two prior discussions on the wonderful sport of cricket, so hopefully we can get something started.

I only got into the sport during the 2003 World Cup and have been in love with it since. However, since I live in the States, my opportunities for watching cricket are rather slim. I listened to a decent amount of the World Cup, but struggle to find regular audio feeds.

Anyway, as a Hong Konger living in the States, I don't really have a proper team to support, so I randomly picked India. I've been following their tour of Australia closely (as close as one can through the internet) and am thrilled by their showing... besides the collapse in the third test. I'm just glad they've seemingly bounced back during the fourth test, but you can never count the Aussies out, of course.

Besides test cricket & ODI's, I'm not really sure how the game works. I know their are county sides in England and there seem to be provincial leagues in Australia... am I right about that? I watch a lot of football and understand how a player can progress from playing in various leagues to playing in a World Cup, but cricket seems to put more emphasis on national sides. I have no idea who else Sachin Tendulkar or VVS Laxman play for, but any football fan would know that Zinedine Zidane plays for Real Madrid and Theirry Henry plays for Arsenal.

Hope to hear from some of you out there who are also mad for cricket. I know there's a lot of A.net-ers from India, Australia and England on here, so I'm sure there's at least a couple cricket fans amongst us aviation buffs.
 
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RE: The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Sat Jan 03, 2004 10:19 pm

How about Sachin Tendulkar in Australia. He is really putting on a show! 220 not out so far with five wickets down. Way to go Sachin. He really didn't have a great 2003!

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RE: The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Sat Jan 03, 2004 10:48 pm

I have no idea who else Sachin Tendulkar or VVS Laxman play for

Sachin plays for Mumbai
Laxman plays for Hyderabad

Your best resource for biographical data on any player is http://www.cricket.org

If it ain't on that site, it ain't worth knowing!  Smile
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RE: The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Sat Jan 03, 2004 11:38 pm

There was a sign in the crowd in the last Test something like :

"India + Curry = Runs"

All I can say is if that is true then they must have had some bloody good currys the last couple of dinners!

Questions are :

When are McGrath and Warne coming back?

and

Is the so called depth of Australian cricket really that deep?
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RE: The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Sat Jan 03, 2004 11:39 pm

Don't forget South Africa......2nd best side in the world behind Australia Big grin

We have a league here as well. Cricket is a complicated sport which takes a lot of skill.

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RE: The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Sat Jan 03, 2004 11:47 pm

"Don't forget South Africa......2nd best side in the world behind Australia"

I think you'll find that South Africa was actually rated 1st at some stage last year in the Test arena.
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RE: The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Sun Jan 04, 2004 12:08 am

Don't forget South Africa......2nd best side in the world behind Australia

Gee, wonder what happened to you guys in the World Cup! Big grin
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RE: The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Sun Jan 04, 2004 12:24 am

Well put B747  Big thumbs up

South Africa put on a Shi**y performence in the world Cup......But we still kick @$$ Big grin . Look at wat were doing to the West Indies Big grin

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RE: The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Sun Jan 04, 2004 12:28 am

B747-427B: "Gee, wonder what happened to you guys in the World Cup!"

 Innocent I guess the same that happened to you guys.... We got beaten by a better team.

Oh, and our national cricket coach and captain at that time, still did not understand exactly how the Duckworth-Lewis system works......
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RE: The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Sun Jan 04, 2004 2:36 am

well I'm from the west indies....

my humble apologies to the cricket community
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RE: The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Sun Jan 04, 2004 5:13 am



Glenn McGrath wont be back for a while yet. His injury is almost full recovered but he is spending time with his wife who has cancer which is gettin worse from what i have heard. i was initially beast cancer and now its spreading to the bones.

Australia has the potential to have an endles string of great players. the problem is that because the senior players are going so well the selectors cannot chop and change to give experience and plan ahead when these senior players retire. Sadly it usually takes an injury of a player on the side for any new talent to make an appearance in the international arena.

BTW. We are screwed in this Sydney test. So much to the point the crowd was booing Australia. Well done India. Top notch performance so far. lets see if you can bowl.

We are going to miss Steve. too bad India are playing so well and Australia playing so shitful on his last appearance.

cheers
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RE: The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Sun Jan 04, 2004 5:24 am

India have been great in this series so far, although this is the 1st time Tendulkar has been red hot. India are a really wierd cricket team - they're either the worst team in the world or the best, there are hardly any 'middle of the road' performances. I hark back to of course the miraculous test win over the Aussies in India with Harbhajan and Laxman playing godlike cricket. Genius. Then the next match they can turn up and look like a village side. Wierd, but compelling. I reckon the Indians will win the series in Australia you know, but expect a test series defeat to Zimbabwe in the not to distant future! Big grin
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RE: The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Sun Jan 04, 2004 8:38 am

B747-437B:
I do know about Cricinfo and I agree, it is a great cricket resource.

However, my point is that it seems like in cricket the players aren't linked with their other sides that much. Is league play just not that important?

As for Tendulkar, I'm hoping for at least a 300, but I'll take the series victory!
 
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RE: The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Sun Jan 04, 2004 8:41 am

Hate cricket, even if my father DOES write about it as his profession!

So so dull!

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RE: The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Sun Jan 04, 2004 12:00 pm

I hate cricket... zzz.. Although my grand father and father play it..

Play Rugby or Soccer.. PROPER SPORTS!

Regards...
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RE: The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Mon Jan 05, 2004 5:53 am

Barfbag normally comments about the cricket, however I suspect he's walking around in a happy daze at the moment having seen the Indian batsman smashing the Aussies all over Sydney in the last few days. Big grin

As for South Africa, the fact that they appeared at the head of the World Test championship recently only brought that system into disrepute, especially since the Aussies wipe the floor with them.

Australia are the best side in the world, though how for much longer is questionable, the loss of McGrath and Warne has really been shown up in this series, and their best batsman are not exactly young. After them several teams are pretty close. India may be moving ahead of the rest, but South Africa and England are up there too, whilst Sri Lanka are nigh on unbeatable at home. The Windies are struggling, and if they lose to England in the upcoming Test series they will really have dropped down the pecking order.

Pakistan are surprisingly poor at the moment, New Zealand do well with limited resources, whilst Zimbabwe's political strife is hardly helping their cricket team, especially when their best batsman (Andy Flower) and their best young bowler (Henry Olonga) both quit on protest. Bangladesh shouldn't have been given Test status at this stage.

(I just know I've forgotten someone.  Big grin )

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RE: The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Mon Jan 05, 2004 9:36 pm

Barfbag normally comments about the cricket, however I suspect he's walking around in a happy daze at the moment having seen the Indian batsman smashing the Aussies all over Sydney in the last few days.

I knew I could trust you to fire a jibe at me if I didn't respond on a cricket thread  Smile But then I never saw it earlier since I was holidaying in the Kerala backwaters, miles from the nearest internet connection.

Now that I'm back to civilization (or the lack of it, if the sheer madness of the drivers here in New Delhi is any indicator), I'll comment - I'm certainly overjoyed to see our performance in Australia, though I'm REALLY hoping Kumble can work his magic on the 5th day Sydney pitch. Winning the series would be enough to make my week, hell, even my month. I couldn't even care if we later got whitewashed by Bangladesh Big grin
 
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RE: The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Mon Jan 05, 2004 9:51 pm

Well, just to show you how impressed I was with your boys, I stayed up through the night (I was on holiday still) on the second and third days to watch Tendulkar and especially Laxman whack the Aussies round the park. Wonderful to watch, and I can't help but wonder why it is that Laxman just looks like any other Test batsman exept against Australia, when he turns into some kind of batting God. Whatever the truth of it, seeing Brett Lee's sneer turn into a frown as he took boundary after boundary off him made me chuckle. Interesting choice of Lord Snooty to bat again though. Perhaps he was fearful of Australia winning? This way, only India can win - I just can't see Australia getting that many runs, though if they do go for it (and I'm sure they will) it'll be a cracker of a final day.

Perhaps we're watching the start of Australia's fall from grace here? I think they'll still be strong, but for the reasons I've listed above I can't see them being quite so dominant in the years ahead. Maybe England will actually manage to get a full strength team out against them at some point? Certainly, that was the biggest frustration on our last tour there. We'd still have been beaten but the fact we didn't have any bowling did make it rather more one-sided that it needed to have been.

Oh, and you say that now, but if you do lose to Bangladesh,rest assured that I'll be reminding you about it for years!  Big grin
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Mon Jan 05, 2004 11:43 pm

On behalf of all uninformed Americans let me ask the following:

1. Can someone please post a summary of the rules? Given the world wide popularity of the sport, there's got to be something there, but I just don't understand it.

2. Last time I was in London, I watch a couple minutes of cricket and really liked the white hats worn by the national team. I've looked high and low for a website where I could buy one of those hats. Can anyone point me in the right direction.

Thanks,

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RE: The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Mon Jan 05, 2004 11:44 pm

Just came across this thread. Just like Banco, I was up most nights watching the action down under. The bating display on both sides were really good. Finally there's someone who are capable of challenging the Aussies in their own backyard.

Tendulkar was long overdue a big innings. Shame it happened at the 4th Test and not the 3rd, where I put £20 on him to be the highest scorer. Anyway I an happy for him. I am sure Luxman will get a few offers from the english counties next few seasons.

Can't wait for tomorrow - Its definitely going to be an exciting day for sure. The Aussies will go for glory. They will try and go for the win. Not even dream of settling for the draw.
It shames me to say this, but hope England are watching the game tomorrow for a masterclass in playing positive - IMHO if their attitude in Sri Lanka is anything to go by, they would come out and block all day tomorrow, having resigned to a draw even before the innings started  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Incidentally, Lara's century yesterday made him the fastest batsman to score 9000 runs (177 innings). Sachin lost out by two innings when he passed 9000 runs on this match.

May the best team win!

Zonks,
In answer to your original query, I think players in England, Australia & South Africa are more easily associated with their local teams in domestic cricket as opposed to say players from the Indin sub-continent (although India does have a lot of club cricket like Ranjit Trophy etc.)



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RE: The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Mon Jan 05, 2004 11:47 pm

I still think Australia can win the match, it'll be one hell of an innings if they can do it.. I think India declared a bit prematurely, it is possible to get 500 odd runs in one days play.. As I think India have proved.

Hopefully it'll be a nail biting finish, I wouldn't want Australia to crash and burn in their final innings and Steve Waughs final test.
 
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RE: The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:21 am

N6376m, here are the basic rules of cricket:  Big grin

"You have two sides, one out in the field and one in. Each man that's in goes out, and when he's out he comes in and the next man goes in until he is out. When they are all out, the side that's been out comes in and the side that's been in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out. Sometimes you get men still in and not out.

"When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out, and when he is out, he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in. There are two men called umpires who are all out all the time, and they decide when the men who are in are out. When both sides have been in and all the men have been out, and both sides have been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who are not out, that is the end of the game."



But to be slightly more serious, the basics are that you have two teams of 11 men. Two batsman are in at any one time, and whenever one of them is out then the next comes in in turn until ten wickets have been lost. Runs are scored by the batsmen running the 22 yards between each set of stumps, or, if the ball goes over the boundary a four or six (without bouncing) is scored.

Bowlers bowl sets of six balls called "overs" and one is completed then you have another from the opposite end. If you view it as being related to baseball (which it is, baseball actually started in England!) then the rest of it follows. Bowlers can bowl at speeds of up to 100 mph, and as with baseball, the ball swings (curves) around. The difference is that the ball is meant to hit the ground before reaching the batsman, which brings seam movement into play. Equally, the bowler is free to aim at the batsman, which is why they wear helmets and padding. The batsman can be out any number of ways, bowled (the ball hits the stumps or wickets), caught, lbw (leg before wicket, essentially the ball would have hit the stumps but the batsman got in the way - this is very complicated for the non-initiate), run out (self explanatory if you know baseball), stumped (similar but the wicket keeper does it when the batsman is out of his ground but not attempting a run) and various other less common occurences. The team with the most runs wins.

In Test matches, the game goes on over five days, each side batting twice, and you don't necessarily get a result. Draws are quite common, and can cover a situation where neither side is within a mile of winning, or when a side just needs a few runs or a couple of wickets. This result is usually baffling to Americans, but is part of what makes the game so special. Watching a side battle for a draw when they have been comprehensively outplayed is pretty unique in sport. There is also a limited overs version of the game, which would probably translate to the US market quite well, certainly with the US's love for statistics based sports. As a matter of interest, the number of cricket clubs in the States has rocketed over the last few years, and not just from expats from the cricket playing countries. Check out the internet to see if there's one near you.

For the laws of the game see this link:

http://www.cricinfo.com/db/SOCIETIES/ENG/ACS/CRICKET_HISTORY/LAWS/index.html

It should also point you to various merchandise. If you have any other questions just put them up here, I'm sure we'll answer them for you!

Sri_Lankan340, I would agree that England may have seemed negative in the last series, but I do think you have to understand that Murali's new ball meant that they were pretty much stuffed in the series, and were just trying to hang on. They couldn't do much else really, and had the drawn that series it would have been a real achievement. That leg spinner was just unpickable, and on those surfaces there wasn't that much else they could do.
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RE: The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:24 am

Get a life Banco .......
 
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RE: The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:27 am

Oh, and Scotland are useless at it, just like football and rugby.  Big grin
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RE: The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:38 am

Yes so we are.

And we dont gie a toss...

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RE: The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:45 am

You don't give a toss that you're crap at rugby and football? Really?  Wow!  Smile
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RE: The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:53 am

Oh no - let me clarify

Cricket - we dont gie a toss. Whits the point of whacking a ball around with a bit of wid and maybe even missing it as some tosser tries to knock down a wee pole. No, we tend to stay in the pub getting slowly freshened during the roasting hot  Big grin Scottish summer days

Rugby - well we dont really give much of a toss if we get beat, especially if its by Wales, Ireland, France etc cos we all end up in the pub afterwards getting preserved anyway and we have great singsongs with these guys. But we like to beat the English whenever we can, but dont really bother if we dont.

Football - A matter of some concern, we do give a bit more of a toss but dont really worry too much cos we all end up in the pub afterwards anyway, getting a bit marinated. But we like to beat the English whenever we can, but dont really bother if we dont, especially as we hardly get to play you nowadays, more's the pity.

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RE: The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 2:34 am

Cricket - Boring. I agree with Scotty's statements above  Big grin Plus whats the point in having a cup of tea after a game? This "sport" sends me to sleep but Im usually in the pub when its on so...
Rugby - We're getting a wee bit better, but we still end up in the pub afterwards followed by a Fish supper or a Chinese Big grin
Football - Gie us 5 years and we might hae a decent team. Go Berti McVogts  Big thumbs up Again we end up in the pubs afterwards ( and before the match also  Smile/happy/getting dizzy )

Go Scotland  Big thumbs up
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RE: The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 2:38 am

I still think Australia can win the match, it'll be one hell of an innings if they can do it.. I think India declared a bit prematurely, it is possible to get 500 odd runs in one days play.. As I think India have proved.

500 in a day is possible ? Theoretically, maybe. In reality - 5th day Sydney pitch with lots of rough, uneven bounce, cracks, ball already turning a mile, possibility of cloud cover for most of the day (rain is possible), required run rate of 5, main Indian slow bowler a proven nightmare in such situations, Aussies not necessarily the best at facing spinners on a wearing pitch... But then stranger things have happened.

I'd be the first to stand up and applaud if the Aussies do make it, but I really don't see them managing. The moment they attack Kumble and lose wickets, they'll either batten down the hatches and fight out a draw or keep attacking on a pitch that really doesn't hold too much for the batsmen, and lose in the process. From my perspective, the latter would be preferable, of course  Big grin
 
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RE: The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 4:50 pm

Okay, now I'm really confused. How is the 4th test in the India v. Australia test series a draw if India scored 916 runs (705-7d & 211-2d), as opposed to Australia's 831 runs (474 & 357-6)?

Am I correct in being disappointed that India didn't win the 4th test outright? Did Ganguly declare too early?
 
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Tue Jan 06, 2004 5:02 pm

Draw = last team to bat doesn't get within the other team's total but doesn't get dismissed either.

Damn. I was hoping the Aussies would go berserk and get themselves out like in Adelaide. It sucks that they played defensive. Oh well. We keep the Border-Gavaskar Trophy, and we exceeded the wildest expectations of us at the start of the tour. Not so bad, I'd say, though I'd still take the series win had that been a choice  Smile
 
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RE: The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 6:04 pm

Did Ganguly declare too early?

IMHO, no. It was a sporty declaration. Let me try and explain....

For a good team like Australia, this was a challenging total, but getable.
A normal acceptable run rate in a test match would be around 3-3.5 runs an over. Here the asking rate was around 4.6 an over. Australia did maintain that for quite some time early in the innings.

This slightly higher asking rate of 4.6 means although its getable, the batsmen will have to take some risk in their batting. This in turn increases the opposition's chance of getting them out sooner.

If the asking total was in the region of 500 or so, then that would have meant an asking rate of around 5.2 an over. While this is possible in a one day match scenario with the fielding restrictions etc, (Now I have completely confused you haven't I , Zonks  Smile) it is a lot harder in a test match, especially with the caliber of players like Kumble & co to maintain a runrate of above 4.5 or 5.

Anyway, well done to both teams. It would have been bad if Steve Waugh had to retire on a low note. He again played his typical innings that saved this match. It would be interesting to see who would take on his role in the future.

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Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:20 pm

I'm not sure I'd go as far as to say it was a sporting declaration. It was extremely unlikely, beyond what any team has ever achieved before. On that basis it is hardly surprising Australia didn't make it, although bearing in mind they got such a big score it was a terrific effort on their part. 374 on the last day doesn't strike me as playing defensively either!

Ah, well. Now we can all praise Waugh to the rooftops whilst quietly saying "Good, bugger off" under our breath.  Big grin
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Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:33 pm

This was quite a pathbreaking series, all in all. India showed the ability to keep coming at Australia in a manner absolutely unexpected of us. As an Indian, it certainly made me feel proud of our guys.

We also showed Australia can be beaten if you have the backbone to hold together, fight hard and stick to the time-honoured ways of test match cricket - score big, bowl penetratively. Its upto others like S.Africa, Windies, Pakistan, NZ and England to make further inroads against Australia in Australia during their respective series' now.

With Sachin in form, we have the entire top order in top shape for the coming one day series, which ought to be a cracker of a contest, particularly since that form of the game doesn't emphasize our relative lack of bowling strength vis a vis other top nations. I'd love to see a bunch of Indian tearaways sending the red cherry whizzing past the opposing batsmen's eyes at 150+ kmph.
 
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Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:40 pm

I used to play cricket for my county - Devon.

When I was last in India, a group of lads (in Delhi) were playing the game. They asked me whether I'd like to join in, which I did. One Englishman vs 5 Indians was hardly fair, eh?  Wink/being sarcastic
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Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:50 pm

Well, bearing in mind the respective populations I'd say you got off lightly! Big grin

Barfbag, this series must have been pretty mucht eh first time that the entire Indian batting order truly fired? So often they flatter to deceive, not this time. When they played in England we had the misfortune for only Raul Dravid to play really well. How disappointing, the dullest of the big players too! When I was at Lords and Tendulkar was out, there was this huge cheer round the ground, swiftly followed by a big groan. We wanted to watch him bat you see.  Big grin

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Wed Jan 07, 2004 12:02 am

A lot of India's past performances (or the lack of it) had to do with the fact that, frankly, we sucked as travellers. We'd go to Aus or Eng and be totally lost unless we were in the comforting confines of an Indian hotel, or some such. And when someone like Lindwall, Lillee or Thommo came barreling down, the look on their faces was akin to a deer in front of the headlights.

No more of that. These guys are hard as nails now, and very fit as well. John Wright's the absolute best coach we ever had. And Ganguly, never mind what the Anglo/Aussie press may derogatorily call him, is a much underestimated leader. The guy knows how to get under his rival's skin, like in the case of keeping Waugh waiting for the toss in the 2001 series. Spare me the poppycock about his 'not respecting the great traditions of cricket'. His point was to irritate Steve and he did that well enough. I see this team forming the nucleus of a different kind of Indian cricket team, one thats not the gentlemanly side that graciously lost and was almost apologetic on winning.
 
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Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:16 am

I don't think anyone belittles Ganguly's ability as a captain. His Lord Snooty nickname came about because of his attitude to people off the field. No matter, you don't have to be a nice person to run a good cricket team. As for keeping Waugh waiting, well I have no problem with that. A little spikiness with your opponent is all part of the game. We had the same with Nasser Hussain; he wasn't everyone's cup of tea, but he made a frankly awful team competitive through his drive and refusal to accept the mediocrity.

On to other matters. We could have had a hell of a game at Newlands today. Dwayne Smith scored a century in even time on debut, and with the West Indies 2-0 down with two to play, needing 120 at seven an over with five wickets left, Ridley Jacobs came out and blocked for the draw. What the hell was he thinking? Playing for the draw they've lost the series anyway, why on earth didn't he have a go? Smith was sahing the ball to all parts of the ground and they had a real chance of winning. Unbelievably negative.
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Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:19 am

Banco

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Fancy starting another "CIA/Martian conspiracy to start global thermonuclear war" thread to liven things up?
 
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Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:31 am

I'll go for another "Germany are crap at football" one if you'd like? That usually gets our Teutonic friends going.

Or how about a "CIA/Martian conspiracy driven by the French to take over US government because George Bush wasn't elected really and backed by the UN using Airbus aircraft because Boeing aren't very good and who likes American football anyway and baseball is like rounders in this country where it's played by girls" thread? Should cover most bases there I'd have thought.  Big grin
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Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:36 am

Cut it to "Why cant Americans be just like the rest of us"

That'll work.

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Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:40 am

Hmm, they might have a teensy bit of evidence against us for breaching the "no flamebait" rule though...  Big grin
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Wed Jan 07, 2004 2:01 am

Stick to cricket I think.
 
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Wed Jan 07, 2004 5:32 am

Anyone see that New Zealand batsmen get a cramp while plying a sweep Big grin .

ROFL

They're were playing India at the time. I forget who the batsmn was though lol

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Wed Jan 07, 2004 12:00 pm

Banco: I understand the Lord Snooty tag was initially meant in response to Ganguly's aloofness. But there's a limit to it, and IMO, it was far exceeded. His attitude off the field should not unduly colour impressions of him onfield, which was not the case. Just as you brought up Nasser's example, I'd be particularly annoyed about the constant sniping at him had I been English. But I'm not so I don't entirely care, particularly if it messed his mind in an India series  Big grin

Oh, and did you hear what the lovely David Shepherd (I think) said when somebody asked him last month "Did you hear the fabulous breaking news ? Hussein's been arrested!" He replied, "Oh dear, what has Nasser done now ?" Big grin
 
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Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:48 pm

LOL. Funny moment in the South Africa - West Indies Test yesterday. The camera panned round the ground in the usual slightly perverted attempt to pick out the good looking women at the ground. Anyway, it settled on a couple of pretty tarty looking blondes, one of who had an enormous chest. After a moment, they realised they were both on TV and on the big screen in the ground. One of them started waving, the other promptly took her top off.  Wow!

Naturally, huge cheers went up around the ground, and obviously some of the players happened to see as well, because Jacques Kallis was wetting himself laughing, and so was Graeme Smith.  Big grin
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Thu Jan 08, 2004 11:10 am

Hate cricket, even if my father DOES write about it as his profession!

Your dad is John Etheridge of The Sun????
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Sat Jan 10, 2004 2:14 am

On to the One-dayers and India have just shown they can choke as well as any other team :

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/Sport/story_43643.asp

They really should have won this one.
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Sat Jan 10, 2004 2:26 am

Now, that's just not true Tsv. Have you ever seen anyone choke like the South Africans?  Big grin
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RE: The A.net Cricket Thread (Hopefully)

Sat Jan 10, 2004 3:05 am

Hey Banco hello and Happy New Year! (Hope not so a happy new year for your Rugby Team! I'm still waiting for that DVD with the alternative ending to be released.)

I assume you are particularly referring to that 1999 World Cup Semi-Final? Arguably Steve Waugh's finest (One-day) hour (or two or three).

Well yeah Australia can choke as well as anyone. Remember when South Africa bloody well beat Australia in Sydney in that short series just after they came back into Test Cricket? Australia was chasing 128 or something like that to win and Fannie de Villers (or however you spell it) took a swag of wickets and Australia was all out for somewhat short of that. That was as good a choke as any.
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