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The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:36 am

Well if Banco thinks there's not been much on cricket, there's NOTHING on curling.

Curling is a very old Scottish sport and is played on ice. It isn't known, when Scottish people began playing Curling. But in the Smith Institute in Stirling is a curling rock (stone) with the engraved year 1511 exposed. The first report about a Curling match between two monks stems from Paisley Abbey near Glasgow and is dated February 1541. Someone named Mr. James Gall let on his tombstone engrave in Perth, Scotland, that he was a big Curling fan.

The first Curling club was founded in Kinross, Loch Leven in 1668. The first national association was the Grand Caledonian Curling Club (founded in 1838). In 1843, the club got the privilege to be the Royal Caledonian Curling Club. This Club was the World Federation, till 1966, when the ICF (International Curling Federation) was founded. Since 1991 the ICF has been called WCF (World Curling Federation) and has about 40 member countries.

Scotland are the current European mens champions and Sweden are the current European ladies champions. NZ men and Japan ladies are the Pacific Champions.

Canada are the current mens and the USA are the current Ladies World Champions.

And Banco, even England have teams, although they are comprised mainly of expat Scots!

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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:38 am

Great idea for a thread!!!!!

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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:38 am

Curling has to be the most idiotic sport I have ever watched in my life. I mean whats the point of it? A guy pushes the thing down the ice and two people sweep away the excess ice in the front. I dont understand why people play the sport.
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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:39 am

Me neither. But they have good parties after it.
 
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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:43 am

Welcome back, KROC. I guess you finally paid your webTV bill.

We have a curling club in Crapchester. I know it's dumb, but I'm kind of intrigued. I might go check it out.
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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:45 am

Go curling!  Big thumbs up
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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 1:47 am

Stupid boy!  Big grin I didn't start the cricket thread, and those comments weren't mine either.  Insane
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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 2:26 am

Theres a curling rink in Lockerbie and one in Dumfries  Big thumbs up
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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 2:30 am

We have a curling club in Crapchester. I know it's dumb, but I'm kind of intrigued. I might go check it out.

Yeah, that and the fact that its the only thing going on during a Friday night...
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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 2:32 am

Great idea for a thread!!!!!

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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 2:38 am

When the Scottish team won, and the English called it a British team you mean?  Angry  Angry
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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 3:26 am

Ah, you mean as opposed to all those times where an English competitor has won a gold medal and we've called it a "British" win then? When did you ever hear about the 10 English gold medals at the last Olympics? Never.

Honestly, Kirkie, it's a British win whether they are from England, Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland. How often do you see the English separating out the Englsih wins from the rest at the Olympics? Never is the answer. I have not heard one instance of Steve Redgrave being talked about as winning gold medals for England. If you can't see that, then the chip on your shoulder has reached truly epic proportions.
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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 3:46 am

Hey guys, don't knock it until you try it. I curl three times a week and I instruct curling too. A lot of people come out, kinda scoffing at the game, and it is almost a guarantee that after they try it they'll say "wow, this is more fun than it looks, and this is a lot harder than it looks!"

Those rocks are 42 pounds each. You try sliding sixteen of them down the ice. When you are throwing the rocks correctly, all the pushing force comes from your right leg. That builds up some pretty good muscles. We also walk about two miles per game, and most of that is while we sweep. When you are sweeping your a$$ off on a rock going quickly down the ice, that is a hard workout. When you sweep you are pushing down on the broom hard, and making the sweeping motion quickly.

Go visit your local curling club. Go to an open house, and get some instruction, and try it. You will have a great time. And afterwards, visit the bar, because that's an integral part of curling too.

Rochester's curling club is supposed to be a good one. I played a team from there in a national tournament a few years ago, and they were quite nice.


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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 4:51 am

It's bad enough that Crapchester is a big Soccer town, but now we have a curling club....and its a good one? Christ all mighty, what next? Better yet, I don't want to know, and Jcs, don't hurt yourself trying to think up something asinine to list.
 
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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 4:55 am

I'm amazed Banco gave a pretty decent response  Smile I was gonna post stuff having a go at the Scots  Big grin

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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 7:01 am

JCS, there's PLENTY to do in Crapchester on a Friday night. For example, we can stand on the shore of Lake Ontario and gaze wistfully in the direction of Toronto, or...or.. we can have a garbage plate, or post to A.net.
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Tue Jan 06, 2004 7:06 am

Don't forget on Saturday Night's here in Crapchester we celebrate the fact we are not in Buffalo or Syracuse!
 
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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 7:33 am

I don't curl, playing on a team would seem sorta odd. But I do set up a rock on the ice in my backyard, and I try to see how close I can get a flat piece of ice to the rock. I played and made bets with others, quite fun actually.

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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 7:40 am

Continental, that's more like bocce than curling.
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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 9:21 am

Must be something different on the TV in Olympics then. We up here hear how the "English" won gold at the 100m when Linford "Lunchbox" Christie won
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BTW the chip is on the English people (mostly media I do admit) who keep referring to 1966, 5-1 against Germany etc. Honestly, its in the past!
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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 9:36 am

Just got back home from a curling game and I find this thread! Anyhoo, I've been playing for a few months in the local high school league and have now progressed to playing as the team's regular skipper. And yes, I can confirm that every curling rink I've been to has a bar.


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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:20 am

Sweet, LY744! I will be leaving for my Monday night league game in ten minutes. I play third. That's skip light.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy I have never enjoyed skipping, it's too much pressure and not enough sweeping!

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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:24 am

"I have never enjoyed skipping, it's too much pressure and not enough sweeping!"

I know what you mean, all that standing around at the far end can get pretty boring.  Smile Good thing was that tonight's opponent forfeited, so we improvised an exhibition game (which we won) against another team and got to rotate through the different positions a bit.

BTW, how many ends do you guys play in a game (6 for us)?


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Tue Jan 06, 2004 3:45 pm

We generally play eight in a regular league game, ten in competitive (which I don't do often).

It is fun when you get to rotate through the positions. Last year our Monday night team let the lead and second play back end for a couple of games and they won us the game, quite handily!

Skipping shouldn't be boring, you really should never be standing around doing nothing. You should always be watching the ice, watching your opponents' shots, and your players' shots. I find that hard to concentrate on.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

I am pleased to say that my Monday night team is in first place in the league! Next week we have playoffs, so we'll see how we do. After that we'll switch teams at the half.

Are you in a junior league? If so, totally keep it up. The people at my club who played as juniors are so much better than the rest of us.
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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 6:41 pm

Jeez. I go home for a few hours and when I come back, guess what?? Turns out that A-Net is FULL of curlers!

We have loads of rinks around here - I've only played twice myself but enjoyed it, especially the bar bit at the end.

Crapchester - presumably that is a psood .... psueod......presumably that's not its real name??

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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 8:00 pm

Scotty: You dont fall down on the ice at all? Big grin
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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:47 pm

By sheer coincidence, I have just read a newspaper item on the fact that it is 200 years ago today that the first written rules of curling were approved by the Duddingston Curling Society, itself formed in 1975. These twelve rules went on to become adopted in 1842 as the rules of the game by the Royal Caledonian Curling Club.

And are still the rules today more or less.
 
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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Tue Jan 06, 2004 10:52 pm

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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Wed Jan 07, 2004 7:17 am

"Skipping shouldn't be boring, you really should never be standing around doing nothing. You should always be watching the ice, watching your opponents' shots, and your players' shots. I find that hard to concentrate on."

Yeah, the concentration bit is challenging at times, ours is a mixed gender league you see.  Innocent

"Are you in a junior league?"

I guess, the league is composed solely of the teams of local area high schools. I'm new to the game, but so is the rest of the league (with the exception of a couple of people here and there). That is also the reason why my curling skills are still a work in progress (but then again I guess they always are), I find judging the weight of the rock to be quite tricky, that's why take out shots are my favourite. Big grin


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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Wed Jan 07, 2004 9:19 am

LY744 - keep it up, everyone's curling skills are always a work in progress!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

What delivery technique were you taught? Do you lift up the rock during your delivery (please say no!) or just slide it along the ice?
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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Wed Jan 07, 2004 10:28 am

The delivery technique we use does not involve lifting the rock, just turning the handle 2 "hours" in the indicated direction, pushing off with the gripper foot while counter-balancing with the broom and letting go of the rock while gently returning the handle to the 12 o'clock position (apparently the more advanced players combine that with pulling back on the handle for better weight control). How does the lifting-up-the-rock technique work exactly (having a hard time picturing that)?


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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:12 pm

I'm not going to tell you about the backswing delivery, because it's old, outdated, inefficient, and hell on the ice and your back.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy Sounds like you have all the components of a good delivery. The only thing I might add is that it is beneficial to always slide out with full force, and vary only where you let go of the rock, rather than sliding out hard, or slow, or medium, etc.

Unfortunately there will be no curling in Seattle for a few days - due to the bad weather here our club lost power and when our iceman went in this morning the rocks were sitting in 1/4 inch of water!
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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Thu Jan 08, 2004 6:16 am

"The only thing I might add is that it is beneficial to always slide out with full force, and vary only where you let go of the rock, rather than sliding out hard, or slow, or medium, etc."

Makes good sense. Learning to do that is one of my short term curling-related goals, the other one being proper knee positioning on the 'take off'.


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RE: The A.net Curling Thread (Hopefully)

Thu Jan 08, 2004 6:31 am

St. Paul, Minnesota has a big curling club.
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