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Federal Court Upholds Texas Redistricting Map

Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:39 am

Finally, we will have a Congressional delegation that accurately represents the voting patterns of the state. Right now, Republicans control the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches in the state as well as every state wide office and both U.S. senators but the old map still favored the Democrats for U.S. House elections. Looks like Democrat chances for recapturing the House of Representatives has become almost nil since 7 more Republicans will be added to the House this year.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040106/ap_on_el_ho/texas_redistricting_4

(Now if we can just get rid of Chet Edwards so I am not stuck with a Rat for my CongressCritter.)
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RE: Federal Court Upholds Texas Redistricting Map

Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:48 am

(Now if we can just get rid of Chet Edwards so I am not stuck with a Rat for my CongressCritter.)

Exactly B753, make it all Republican, that's good for pluralism  Insane

You clearly don't know anything about the positive impact that a good opposition can have in a society. The more different views, the better. But I understand this must be difficult for an extremist as you  Insane
 
Alpha 1
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RE: Federal Court Upholds Texas Redistricting Map

Wed Jan 07, 2004 12:31 pm

Republicans of the modern era don't believe in the two-party system. They believe in single-party rule.
 
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RE: Federal Court Upholds Texas Redistricting Map

Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:00 pm

Democr4ats of the modern era don't believe in fixing anything, jsut making outlandish statements and pointing fingers..

 Big grin Right?
 
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RE: Federal Court Upholds Texas Redistricting Map

Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:15 pm

Actually, JeffM, Democrats would love to be able to fix things, but they're not in the majority right now, are they? Let the Republicans keep screwing things up, and you'll won't be so arrogant in your portentions.  Smile
 
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RE: Federal Court Upholds Texas Redistricting Map

Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:30 pm

Keep screwing things up? Hadn't noticed...

"Democrats would love to be able to fix things..."

..hmmm sounds like the new lefty campaign slogan..

Why did they waste the 8 years they had in the majority? Oh..never mind..
 
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RE: Federal Court Upholds Texas Redistricting Map

Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:35 pm

Wow, Texas will be back in the 19th century in no time now.... Crank them electric chairs up theirs going to be some kill'in in Texas now ....yeeeeehhhaaa.
Next time try the old "dirty Sanchez" She'll love it !!!
 
JeffM
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RE: Federal Court Upholds Texas Redistricting Map

Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:41 pm

"Republicans of the modern era don't believe in the two-party system. They believe in single-party rule. "


Actually, it would be the voters..... but that is just a technicality..
 
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RE: Federal Court Upholds Texas Redistricting Map

Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:42 pm

Alpha 1,

When did the Dems ever actually fix anything in the past 20-30 years? And don't say the 90's boom - that's like taking credit for the sunrise.

I agree with Sabena (surprise) - a strong opposition is essential. It keeps you honest. Nothing is more counterproductive or corrupt than a ruling party that was WAY out in front for years, like Congress in India, the Liberal Democratic Party in Japan, or the Communists in the USSR.

Charles

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RE: Federal Court Upholds Texas Redistricting Map

Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:51 pm

Cfalk:
I don't know what's worse.
The Communist in the fmr. USSR or the GOP in the current USA  Confused

At least with the commies, vodka was aplenty.:D
The current GOP with the help of Dieboldt systems will insure one party rule.
Who needs democracy when you got the GOP?
Gawd damn it, democracy ryhmes too much with democrat!  Yeah sure

Bring back the Concorde
 
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RE: Federal Court Upholds Texas Redistricting Map

Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:54 pm

Keep screwing things up? Hadn't noticed...

I didn't think you could with your head buried in the sand or up.....something else....

And don't say the 90's boom - that's like taking credit for the sunrise.

Yes, when a Democrat takes credit for it, it's just political boasting, but now, with a "recovery" underway, we should just genuflect to His Holiness, The President. Sorry, I don't see it that way.

And with that, I bid you adeau.....

 
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RE: Federal Court Upholds Texas Redistricting Map

Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:58 pm

... sleep well... your gonna have a busy day...

 Big grin

[Edited 2004-01-07 06:14:24]
 
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RE: Federal Court Upholds Texas Redistricting Map

Wed Jan 07, 2004 1:59 pm

Finally, Sheila Jackson Lee is no longer my representative.

 
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RE: Federal Court Upholds Texas Redistricting Map

Wed Jan 07, 2004 2:02 pm

With the Republicans in control there is no need for 2 parties. The republicans know what's best for Texas the US and the world..... I'll bet the top priorities of the one party Texas republicans will be #1 praying in school. #2 repeal any & all gun laws. #3 make sodomy illegal again. After that they can sit back and watch the pollution grow. Great job Texas !!!
Next time try the old "dirty Sanchez" She'll love it !!!
 
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RE: Federal Court Upholds Texas Redistricting Map

Wed Jan 07, 2004 2:12 pm

Cfalk:
Wait a minute.
Wern't you the same user that once stated that the economy has nothing to do with the President at the current time?
So if a boom is on the way, wouldn't it be Clinton's doing?
I once remember you saying that it is a 6 year cycle before a President's economic agenda to effect the economy.

Please enlighten us.
We are all ears.
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RE: Federal Court Upholds Texas Redistricting Map

Wed Jan 07, 2004 2:22 pm

I also find myself in the awkward position of agreeing with Sabena 690. Republicans have gained too much power in this country and it is very unhealthy.

I do believe though that if the tables were turned, the democrats would not being working to ensure republicans are elected to create a healthy balance. No way.

Superfly:
"I don't know what's worse.
The Communist in the fmr. USSR or the GOP in the current USA"

I genuinely have friendly advice for you. Don't say stupid things like the stuff I just quoted. It makes you look silly. Hyperbole is not a good way to make a point.
 
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RE: Federal Court Upholds Texas Redistricting Map

Wed Jan 07, 2004 2:23 pm

Gerrymandering, as this clearly seems like, knows no party lines.

Let's learn to think people, BEFORE we sink low into partisan bickering.

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RE: Federal Court Upholds Texas Redistricting Map

Wed Jan 07, 2004 2:30 pm

N79969:
Whare is the "friendly advise"?
Read the 2nd. paragraph N79969.
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RE: Federal Court Upholds Texas Redistricting Map

Wed Jan 07, 2004 2:42 pm

I guess all those decades where the Democrats controlled Congress, the White House some of the time, and a large majority of states wasn't "too much power" since it wasn't the Republicans who held the power.

As of right now, there is a slight Republican tilt in state and national power but as those who have studied the political history of this country know, power cycles back and forth. Even if the Republicans toasted the Democrats as much as FDR did to the Republicans in the 1930's, there would come a day when power would swing back the other direction.

Currently, Republicans control 21 state legislatures and the Democrats control 17. The rest are split. Republicans have 28 governors and the Democrats have 22. In 12 states, the Republicans control both the legislative branch and hold the governor's office. Democrats do the same in 8 states.
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Finally, Sheila Jackson Lee is no longer my representative.

That alone would be enough to make me celebrate. Too bad she'll still be in Congress but removing her would most likely would have caused the court to have killed redistricting.

[Edited 2004-01-07 06:44:50]
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cfalk
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RE: Federal Court Upholds Texas Redistricting Map

Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:16 pm

Alpha, Superfly,

Remember your Civics classes? The president has little control over the financial health of the country - Congress does.

What is happening now is cyclical, helped along by tax cuts (supply-side economics wins again). But it could have been a lot worse. Do you realize the hard hits the U.S. economy suffered over the past few years? First you had the tech bubble burst, when people realized that most of the "growth" of the 1990s was little more than wishful thinking. Then you had 9/11, and the resultant impact on travel, business and tourism. Then you had a war in Afghanistan. Then a war in Iraq. Then you had Enron and the resultant calling into question all investment values. Traditionally, any ONE of these events could cause an economy to go into recession, and the U.S. economy took all of them in rapid succession and only stuttered for a couple of years, and U.S. unemployment, while a bit high against recent standards, is still among the lowest in the civilized world. That says great things about the underlying strength of the U.S. economy.

My biggest bitch about the Clinton administration is that they did not keep better controls in place (which is the job of the President, not Congress). Enron, Xerox, Global Crossing and all the other accounting scandals happened under Clinton's watch. It is a basic truism of business (auditing in particular)that proper controls are most difficult to police in periods of rapid change or growth. While I don't think the Clinton administration intentionally turned a blind eye to problems, the SEC and other responsible organizations were caught up in the mental climate of the Clinton administration, which basked in the apparent success of the economy and did not want to do anything that might cause it to be called into question. An intelligent administration would have told the regulatory agencies to be extra vigilant. Instead they just closed their eyes and hoped for the best.

Back to the Reps vs. Dems, I tend to agree more with Republican policy than Democratic. But it would certainly be unhealthy for a long-term domination by either.

Charles
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RE: Federal Court Upholds Texas Redistricting Map

Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:23 pm

So who was doing the jurymandering?

See the Texas democrats that on seperate occasions fled to Oklahoma and New Mexico to prevent the Texas legislature from meeting about redrawing the lines, that is mandated after every census.
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