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Military Powers In 2050

Wed Jan 14, 2004 10:14 am

Who do YOU think will be the major 10 military countries in the world..

Here's mine (not in any order)

China
India
Europe (UK, Germany, France etc as a major union)
USA
Israel
Russia
Indonesia
Saudi Arabia
Pakistan
Korea?

I know im probably wrong with my predictions but hey...

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RE: Military Powers In 2050

Wed Jan 14, 2004 10:25 am

It'd be nice to see the Arab League finally get their collective sh*t together by 2050 - in at least a monetary and economic union. The Gulf Cooperation Council might play a good part in that.....

Indonesia? hrm, maybe. But they have some internal strife and problems they have to deal with first.

I can see a breakdown like this;

USA
China
India
Europe (France-Germany-Russia)
UK
Arab League
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Wed Jan 14, 2004 10:33 am

Saudi Arabia is a small country population wise, they really are not going to be a large military force (not even in the Middle East).

The one glaring example missing from your list is Brazil, huge and growing population!

Top 10 Military powers projecting 50 years into the future..

United States
China
Russia
India
Brazil
UK, France, Italy, Spain
Pakistan
Indonesia
Israel

and finally my big prediction for "new" military force..

Japan.

Japan is slowly taking steps after 60 years of a self defense force towards becoming a military power, they recently approved the deployment of their military overseas to participate in Operation Iraqi freedom.

They operate Aegis Destroyers, F-15s, P-3 etc..

With China flexing it's military power Japan has no choice but to once again become a military force to act as a deterent with the United States against China and North Korea.

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Wed Jan 14, 2004 10:36 am

Do you think the UK would really stand alone?

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Wed Jan 14, 2004 10:37 am

There was a good article in the WSJ recently about how Japan is rebuilding the military. (bring back the Samurai Big grin) I remember one point that in the past Japanese troops on UN missions did not even carry guns !
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RE: Military Powers In 2050

Wed Jan 14, 2004 10:42 am

United States of America
United Kingdom
People's Republic of China
Republic of Japan
Republic of India
 
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RE: Military Powers In 2050

Wed Jan 14, 2004 10:45 am

I don't have a problem with Japan having military capabilities simply because what has happened in the past should be forgotten.. after all look at Germany!

Do you think the UK would stand alone?

Personally, I would love the UK, USA and Canada join to make one super military union. Although it will never happen  Sad DAMN EU!

Brazil...Well I can understand why you put them down as a power but I can't really seem them becoming a major military power..

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RE: Military Powers In 2050

Wed Jan 14, 2004 10:47 am

Do you think the UK would really stand alone?

I have a feeling that countries like Canada and Australia - not to mention some former British colonies in Africa and the Carribbean - might start moving back into the "British Sphere" on their own within 50 years. I'm not talking a new British Empire, but a more cooperative form of the current Commonwealth.

Most people in my country forget that, up until 60 years ago or so, being Canadian was considered being British - much the same way that being Welsh or English made someone British. People felt much the same way about Australians or New Zealanders. It was very different for other nations of the Empire - Indians, for example - who had a very different and distinct culture, even under British rule.

Canada is increasingly becoming divergant from its closest friend and military ally lately, and unfortunately I don't see that as a trend which will reverse unless Canada sees a change of governing Party. Even then, we might be on our way out from under the "American umbrella" to fumble and find our own course..... which I can see leading back to Britain.
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RE: Military Powers In 2050

Wed Jan 14, 2004 10:56 am

I would love to see some form of British Empire back..

It would be such a fantastic union of countries..

Imagine the ... UK, Canada, Australia, NZ, India and South Africa all together again. I know there are many other countries that were in the commonwealth but I guess these would be the main countries that might form an alliance with the UK....to create a major power!

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RE: Military Powers In 2050

Wed Jan 14, 2004 12:03 pm

L.1011:Republic of Japan

Actually Japan is a constitutional monarchy.

Imagine the ... UK, Canada, Australia, NZ, India and South Africa all together again. I know there are many other countries that were in the commonwealth but I guess these would be the main countries that might form an alliance with the UK....to create a major power!

You mean they would all join with Australia to make a major power  Big grin

There is absolutely no way on gods green earth that this would ever ever happen. The countries are far too different now and all have different areas of focus. The Pacific region has NZ's full attention, Africa consumes South Africa, Australia is parading around as the Asian sherrif, Canada lends a hand around the place from time to time and the UK has it's own agenda altogether.

There are still some small historical ties between these countries but these are independent nations with their own allies and foreign policy.

I'm not sure how the New Zealanders would like a collaboration with the British considering their Nuclear submarine fleet?

And India couldn't be more different from the imperial conquest it used to be.

Alliances in the future will form as a result of common ideologies not historical bonds.

As for my country, Australia - I believe through a strong relationship with the United States it will become a larger military power than what it is now and will participate in international military actions on a large scale. However, it will never have the kind of population the chinese or the indians have and will therefore probably continue to invest in intelligence and remote or human-less technology rather than million man armies.

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RE: Military Powers In 2050

Wed Jan 14, 2004 12:04 pm

Here is mine, probably different then a lot of yours, but hey its my opinion, and in order from most powerful to least:

1) USA

2) EU (after all the countries combine and become one military might)

3) China

4) Russia

5) Some sort of an Arab Alliance



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RE: Military Powers In 2050

Wed Jan 14, 2004 1:39 pm

China

Russia

European Union

US
 
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Wed Jan 14, 2004 2:36 pm

USA
EU
China
Russia
Israel




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RE: Military Powers In 2050

Wed Jan 14, 2004 2:43 pm

1) US
2) Russian Federation
3) EU
4) People's Republic of China
5) India
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RE: Military Powers In 2050

Wed Jan 14, 2004 2:45 pm

Here are mine:

US
Russia
China
Israel
GB

I really don't think arab leagues would make it in. They first have to get their culture/society out of the middle ages, and I don't think that can be accomplished in a mere 45 or so years.
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RE: Military Powers In 2050

Wed Jan 14, 2004 2:56 pm

Russia's population is declining and right now they are riding the wave of the cold war. Except those waves are about to hit the shore and within a decade they're going to get left behind as a military power.

China will have the biggest military as far as manpower
United States will probably (really not sure) still be the most powerful
EU I don't expect much because of Europeans' more pacifistic outlook
India a regional superpower for sure, not sure about world

And someone with the bomb will have blown the world up anyway because he was a stupid terrorist who has to go ruin it for the rest of us. Humph.

By 2050 will the United States as the only country to use nuclear weapons in a major way? By then it'll have been over a century ago to boot.
 
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RE: Military Powers In 2050

Wed Jan 14, 2004 3:08 pm

Top 10 Military powers at 2050.

My choices are:

USA
China
India
United Kingdom
Japan
New Iraqi Republic
North Korea
Mexico
Canada EH!
France
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Wed Jan 14, 2004 3:27 pm

Canada? Oh please. Let's be realistic.
 
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Wed Jan 14, 2004 3:44 pm

There are still some small historical ties between these countries but these are independent nations with their own allies and foreign policy.

Small historical ties? Canada, Australia and New Zealand weren't even nations before British colonization. Each still has strong ties to the Mother Country - from how they govern themselves (based on the British Parliamentary system) to their law, which is pretty much still British law with a few changes in places like Canada.

Up until the 60s the Union Jack was still an official Canadian flag - and many Provincial capitol buildings still fly it at the place of honour. Make no mistake, you can't wash the British influence out of our nations, no matter how hard some people would like to scrub.

And if you look at the close allies of Canada, New Zealand, Australia and the UK... you'll notice that other than each other, their largest ally is the United States. After the US... well, most of them oddly have their closest "friendships" and alliances with nations which have their roots in the old Empire. Canada has friends in Africa, like Tanzania, Kenya, Nigeria, Botswana..... Australia and NZ have Malaysia, Singapore, Papua New Guinea, the Solomons..... see a trend?
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RE: Military Powers In 2050

Wed Jan 14, 2004 4:06 pm

Well, allow me to defend some of my choices:

Russian Federation - I believe Russia will stay a military power as their nation stabilizes and, perhaps, exploitation of mineral reserves begins, thus funnelling some much needed money into the Russian defense system. When the USSR fell, the Russian/Soviet military had a ton of designs on the boards that would definitely have closed the technological gap between Warsaw Pact and NATO forces. As of right now, those designs are a generation behind in some cases and still current generation in others. The money to be made on export sales alone would cause the Russians to stay a major military power/manufacturer

The EU - As we've all seen, the Europeans have traditionally formed coalitions and alliances to build aircraft, Airbus in the case of civilian passenger liners, but more particularly the consortiums that built the Jaguar, Tornado, and the Typhoon, points to the ability of the Europeans to cobble together disparate weapons programs and disparate needs and create an aircraft that, while not being the best in any one area, is a decent all-around aircraft. It is imaginable that the European Union will soon band together as a single group to produce its weapons systems, in order to reduce costs for otherwise expensive weapons systems and to increase commonality among NATO partners. Thus, the EU would be functioning as a nation-state in the realm of defense. Economically the EU, of course, generates a great amount of wealth as four members of the EU, Italy, Britain, France, and Germany, are members of the G8. Combine technological know-how with money and a history of working together for common defense goals, and I believe the EU can become a military power

India - (God help me if Roy reads this) India's in the midst of attempting to, without a shadow of a doubt, move to becoming a big boy on the block military, especially in regards to their Navy, the traditional yardstick of a military power, as they wish to form the nucleus of an actual blue-water navy. The Indians have repeatedly expressed interest in the purchase or construction of an aircraft carrier that would far outstrip the abilities of the Viraat and have (on again/off again) expressed desire to purchase the Admiral Gorshkov, a first step towards a blue water carrier force. Not only that, we've seen them in the past 10 years alone, commission the Delhi-class destroyers, the Talwar-class frigates, the Brahmaputra-class frigates, the Kukhri-class corvettes, take on delivery of a few Kilo-class boats as well as the Shishumar-class boats. Now the Indians are getting delivery of French-built boats and begin to express interest in having SSNs and, perhaps a few SSBNs. That's a fairly major build-up/fleet-modernization cycle. I'd say given 50 years of continued economic growth and the Indians will definitely be a major military power checked only by the US in the Indian Ocean.
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Wed Jan 14, 2004 4:40 pm

Lord help us if the "arab league" is a major military power....
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Wed Jan 14, 2004 7:14 pm

USA
UK
Israel
Japan

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RE: Military Powers In 2050

Wed Jan 14, 2004 8:53 pm

"The "Arab League" as you put it has been humiliated by the American far-right, the Arab people have been raped by the marauding Americans. I would be surprised if God still remained on your side!

Your leaders may scream about "MY God being stronger than theirs" (Who said this again?)., but I believe that there is one god for everybody (you call him Christ, Arabs call him Allah). And This God stays firmly on the side of justice. Consdiering the despicable way in which American leaders have behaved, I would be surprised if God would come to your help!"

The Arab nations made their own bed, especially when they declared in 1948 that they wished to commit genocide against the Jews who'd managed to turn the marshiest shittiest land in Palestine / Trans Jordan into a fertile prosporous land. Where's the justice where very large Arab nations invade a tiny new country (where a lot of the Jewish part of which was largely unhabited and bought from some wealthy Arab land owners) on the day the declare independance. Might I add only three years after a war that killed 6 million plus of their race. The Arabs wanted a purely Arab palestine, even though the mandate gave them Jordan.

With the exception of the Lebanon, which seems to have a bit of sense and is moving forward internationally and democratically, the Arab nations are just as bad as any other nations, but the west gets the blame for everything. It'stime other nations took responsibilty for the bloody mess we're in now. No wonder everyone's armed to the teeth and paranoid. Just look at the mess you're in because of Kashmir (oh, that's different isn't it). It'll be the west who comes in to help with aid and rebuilding if India and Pakistan nuke each other.

If the Arab nations took more responsibility for the security and stability of their region it would have solved half the world's current problems.


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RE: Military Powers In 2050

Wed Jan 14, 2004 9:45 pm

The breakdown of countries:
IN ORDER

U.S.A, Current #1
U.K,Current #3
China, Current #8
Japan, Current #9
India, Current #6
Pakistan, Current #5
Russia, Current #7
(in EU)
Germany, Current #2
France, Current # 4

I didn't list the Arab nations bcoz the situation with Israel is still uncertain. Russia once again will try to compete with the U.S, and don't bash me, but I have a feeling that another 'cold war' era may arrive soon, especially with China. Why? China believes it is the center of the world, its Chinese name, Zhong Guo, means 'Center of the World', and many Chinese citizens polled will fight to their death for the country at any time, for possibly any cause. Though, this may change by 2050. No offence guys, but I believe that China, Russia and the Middle East would be a problem in the future for the world. Brazil?? No. They tried developing nukes, gave up, and u gotta be kidding me if their citizens want to fight for the death. They've got many internal problems. Just look at the 'retaliation' attempt made by the govt to start photographing and fingerprinting Americans. This action will only hurt their country' tourism. Indonesia will continue to be a terrorist hotbed no matter what you hear. It's hard to stop terrorists once you've started them. Once again, no hard feelings, I'm just excercising my freedom of speech!

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RE: Military Powers In 2050

Thu Jan 15, 2004 12:07 am

Actually Japan is a constitutional monarchy.

Actually it's an empire.



- The US will still be strong, but they will face major financial problems in the 20 next years (they will have to pay back one day all the money borrowed by Bush). And the economy of the US is largely based on the low price of oil, which is a situation changing slowly.
- The EU will have a serious demography problem.

Then I think China is a good candidate to become a superpower.
Japan also.
 
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Thu Jan 15, 2004 12:10 am

China believes it is the center of the world, its Chinese name, Zhong Guo, means 'Center of the World'

Doesn't it means "middle territory" instead ?
 
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RE: Military Powers In 2050

Thu Jan 15, 2004 3:14 am

That's nearly 50 years away, even with the pacifist (well mostly) leaders in the EU, I can't think of many 50 year stretches where no current EU countries haven't been at each others throats, I can see Europe exploding (not necessarily literally) due to the vast ideological differences and lets face it, cultures between the different members. The UK and USA will hopefully always be allies, but France and some of the new former Eastern Bloc EU countries will certainly not want that to happen.
 
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Thu Jan 15, 2004 4:54 am

Qantasforever, whoops your right. I should have written Empire of Japan. The head of state is the emperor.
 
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RE: Military Powers In 2050

Thu Jan 15, 2004 6:33 am

Here is my list...

USA
China
India
Pakistan
Israel
EU
Russian Federation
Brazil
Japan
Indonesia

I don't think Mexico would be on that list like someone mentioned before, unless Belize and Guatemala combined their population and turned them all in to soldiers I don't see the need for a top 10 military.
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RE: Military Powers In 2050

Thu Jan 15, 2004 8:07 am

Goose -

Actually the nations you've listed had people living on them and were made up of many smaller countries within themselves. Most Australian nations predate the roman empire. But anyway - yes, small historical ties. I meant that these ties are considered small today, obviously the relationship with the UK has been a lot closer in the past, especially at the time of British invasion, or treaty. I'm aware that Canada, Australia and New Zealand have inherited the British parliamentary system of government. However this does not mean that those three countries automatically ally themselves with the United Kingdom especially on military issues (the war on iraq for example - Australia and UK for it, NZ and Canada against). This demonstrated the inherent independent spirit in countries who were originally british colonies. These countries have forged their own identity and thus will never form an effective commonwealth military coalition.

As for any "trend" in national allegiances, I believe the same has happened to other countries who were former british posessions that has happened to the commonwealth heavyweights. They've all gone in different directions and no longer subscribe to an imperial commeradere. Just look at Malaysia's continual racial criticisms of Australia, or the commonwealth stance toward Zimbabwe. Papua New Guinea and the Solomon Islands are two of our closest countries and Australia has a close relationship with them just as I'm sure Canada has with Greenland. But by the same token we have a very close working relationship with another of our closest neighbours - Indonesia, a former Dutch colony - and with New Caledonia, a French posession.

Modern international relations are not ruled by the alliances of the past, but by the situation now. Australia, Canada, UK, NZ have wonderful relations with many countries not part of the commonwealth of nations. Thailand, Mexico, UAE just to name a few.

The UK is not the "mother country" you claim to be. The United Kingdom has about as much say in Canadian, Australian and New Zealand governmental affairs as those respective countries have in Britain itself.

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Sat Jan 17, 2004 12:04 pm

USA will always be the world's most powerful and futuristic military.

2.ISRAEL

3.CHINA

The EU will never form an army because since they are mainly liberals, they'll downsize it to nothing. North Korea won't have an army soon if they ever think of going after Seoul. (Please don't give that USA is the world bully you liberals. You guys are too weak and figures why President Bush will be spending four more years in the white house.)
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RE: Military Powers In 2050

Sat Jan 17, 2004 12:51 pm

i think this thread is a premiun example of the hilarious nonsense going on in some peoples brains. i have no clue nor am i able to take an educated guess on why which country will be a "military power in 2050".
i can make guesses what speaks against which country though.

- EU has a severe demografic problem of having too little numbers of young people. in addition to that people dont want to spend 10% of their gdp on pointless military.
- USA will at some point face severe internal struggle due to the fact that the u.s. economy has not gone through consolidation due to globalization pressure like the rest of the world in addition to its structure that revolves around cheap resources of oil and other raw materials. that will rather rapidly change within the next 30 or so years, maybe another oil crisis with stalling economy due to the unaffordability of "gas guzzlers" and the need to modernize infrastructure.
maybe the usa will even face a "split off" of certain states like california etc to form a more liberal form of country whilst other states form a more authoritarian plutocracy.
- israel is such a small country, i am suprised anyone put them up. just because they can mop up stone throwing protestors with tanks doesnt make them a world military power. israel has, due to its "enviroment", a very strong military for its size. but it is still a country the size of delaware with about 5 ppl living there, so not really a candidate for a military power.
- russia is a country i see cooperating alot more with the eu in the next decades. not joining but cooperating heavily. europe wants safe and maybe more or less exclusive access to the vast yet rather cheap and safe resources russia has to offer, while russia knows it needs to side with the european economic power to progress and prosper itself. i can see a eu/russian cooperation heavily in 50 years. maybe even have russia in the EAU (eurasian union)
- china certainly a world power economically and militarily in 2050. maybe they will have problems with the resources, but i dont see them getting stopped by anyone.
- india, pakistan and bangladesh might actually have reunited by 2050 and will then form the SE Asian player along with china.

time will tell.


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"China believes it is the center of the world, its Chinese name, Zhong Guo, means 'Center of the World'"

good example of propagandistic half knowledge.
it means middle country, whereas zhung is the middle and guo country. the guo can be found in most countries with very colourful and more(or less) fitting adjectives attached in front of it. germany is de-guo. de does not only fit the german name for germany "deutschland" and its .de internet domain(ok they made that up loong before the internet) but also means wisdom, and it was a kind of gesture to show respect to german philosophy etc.
other countries had their name in a similar way, finding a nice word that more or less resembles part of the original pronounciation and stick it in front of guo, and voila you have a country.
on a site note the simplistic chinese grammar also allows simply adding ren behind it to have a countryman of the country in question. i.e. de guo ren is a german.
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Sun Jan 18, 2004 3:50 am

Yanksn4: The EU will never form an army because since they are mainly liberals, they'll downsize it to nothing.

Wrong.

We´ve had a joint franco-german Brigade for some time already, and the Bush administration has driven the alienation to the point that several european countries have just started the buildup of structures for a joint european army.

In addition to building an independent force, the emphasis is on improving efficiency and capabilities for foreign campaigns, since the potential for inner-european wars is on the verge of disappearing.

"liberals"? "pacifists"? I´m wondering why the troops of several european nations are involved in several campaigns in different places in the world if that were true. The Iraq invasion was (and is!) seen as a mistake, not as something that just was against our presumed "pacifism".

Please inform yourself, or you´ll be dammned to be surprised all over again.
 
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RE: Military Powers In 2050

Sun Jan 18, 2004 4:31 am

Looking back to the past, at least we will not see Germany considering their record in the 20th century. Nor will we see Japan. Russia is still a question.

USA.
China.
India.
A combined EU force.

And surprise, Indonesia.

Indonesia gets very little mention except in the dark rooms of analysts in Washington.



 
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RE: Military Powers In 2050

Sun Jan 18, 2004 6:02 am

USA will always be the world's most powerful and futuristic military.

What is that statement based on, except pure misplaced national pride ?
 
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Sun Jan 18, 2004 7:02 am

Commander_Rabb: Looking back to the past, at least we will not see Germany considering their record in the 20th century.

That´s quite unlikely, indeed. The interests have changed quite a bit in the meantime.  Big thumbs up

Just one thought: almost 50 years are a long time; It´s quite possible that by then, the "biggest military power" attribute might have become much less important due to political changes...

There was a time when people were discussing the same question with regards to inner-european rivalries. And it did indeed lose most of its relevance in that respect, even though this once appeared completely ludicrous and utopian.
 
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RE: Military Powers In 2050

Sun Jan 18, 2004 7:42 am

Expect the UK, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, Holland to be the main powers in a EU military power!

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RE: Military Powers In 2050

Sun Jan 18, 2004 9:37 am

USA will at some point face severe internal struggle due to the fact that the u.s. economy has not gone through consolidation due to globalization pressure like the rest of the world in addition to its structure that revolves around cheap resources of oil and other raw materials. that will rather rapidly change within the next 30 or so years, maybe another oil crisis with stalling economy due to the unaffordability of "gas guzzlers" and the need to modernize infrastructure.
maybe the usa will even face a "split off" of certain states like california etc to form a more liberal form of country whilst other states form a more authoritarian plutocracy

Fuel cells.End of oil issue.

We´ve had a joint franco-german Brigade for some time already, and the Bush administration has driven the alienation to the point that several european countries have just started the buildup of structures for a joint european army.

Perhaps so but I wouldn't exactly regard Belgium and Luxembourg(even Germany) as major military players.The plan has fizzled out a little lately and France realises that any serious EU force would require the UK.

USA will always be the world's most powerful and futuristic military.

What is that statement based on, except pure misplaced national pride ?
Demographics,economic forecasts,future geopolitical predictions.


Although this is hard to predict (to say the least),I would say the following:
US
China
India
Russia
Brazil
EU(although relatively much less so than today)
Japan potentially


The fact that the European population will smaller in 2050 than today plays a role!Also,militaries in 2050 will be small in terms of manpower with the technological gap widening.


 
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RE: Military Powers In 2050

Sun Jan 18, 2004 9:44 am

Can I just say, if we're judging anything on population then we aren't going to get anywhere. Nearly every country in the world will have a declining population by 2030, so this has nothing to do with it. The only changes we can really expect to see is the development of nations such as India and China, and I think these are the two we shall see become more prominent in the future, especially with regard to military power.

However, if there are no major wars from now until then, which is doubtful.. I still think that the USA will have the largest military on the planet.
 
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Donder10

Sun Jan 18, 2004 10:38 am

Donder10: Perhaps so but I wouldn't exactly regard Belgium and Luxembourg(even Germany) as major military players.

Since we´re not looking for world domination like the current leadership of... some other country... it´s not about posing the maximum possible threat as soon as possible. It´s about steadily building a functioning force that could do its job properly. Its job being much more related to politics than to plain old intimidation and destruction.

Donder10: The plan has fizzled out a little lately and France realises that any serious EU force would require the UK.

Quite the same way the plans for the EU itself, for the Euro and for a number of other things "fizzled out" earlier, right?  Wink/being sarcastic

Just don´t underestimate what determination and steady work can achieve in the long run. We´ve always been in it for the long haul, you know...
 
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RE: Military Powers In 2050

Mon Jan 19, 2004 12:03 am

Just don´t underestimate what determination and steady work can achieve in the long run. We´ve always been in it for the long haul, you know...

Since we´re not looking for world domination like the current leadership of... some other country
China?  Wink/being sarcastic Perhaps the US is indeed strutting its stuff around the world more than it should but I don't see many other countries prepared to deal with such issues.

In 2050 EU will pack very little political punch and so little military power.Africa will be the only continent that the EU will continue to utilise its military on large scales(which are related more to politics than to plain old intimidation).The EU's share of world economic output and population will dwindle in relative terms while the US population is estimated to rise to 500M by 2040 or so.

 
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Donder10

Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:00 am

I think you´re missing a few things...
But let´s just say we´re talking about this again in 46 years, okay?  Wink/being sarcastic
 
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RE: Military Powers In 2050

Mon Jan 19, 2004 3:21 am

It would probably be easier to issue a weather forecast for January 18, 2050 (London: foggy in the morning, heavy rain in the evening - Bingo! A 70% chance to hit the nail) rather than predicting the military strength of numerous countries.
We don't even know how military strength will be measured in 2050.

Why bother anyway?



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RE: Military Powers In 2050

Mon Jan 19, 2004 3:25 am

We don't even know how military strength will be measured in 2050.

By 2050 all military power will be self-controller or via remote control Big grinTandy will buy Bae and EADS by 2020.
 
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RE: Military Powers In 2050

Mon Jan 19, 2004 4:07 am

Why anyone even would consider Israel to be a major military power in 2050 is beyond my imagination. The way things are going right now in the Middle East they might consider themself lucky if Israel still exists in 2050.

North Korea will be fully integrated into South Korea by 2050, neither one of them needs to be a military power in 2050, unless... oil in the Korea's was discovered in the mean time.  Big grin
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RE: Military Powers In 2050

Mon Jan 19, 2004 4:39 am

USSR
PRC
India
France
Germany

The USA and the rest of Europe will have cut their own armed forces so much they'll have been unable to withstand invasion by one of the above.
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