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Worst Cars Ever!

Tue Jan 27, 2004 5:50 am

Well, I'm guilty of owning 2 of the worst cars ever. I had an '84 Fiero and a '74 Vega. I had a friend who had an AMC Pacer. He called it the Atomic Fishbowl.

Anyone else willing to fess up to owning one of these beauties?

AMC Pacer (1975-80)

Chevrolet Vega (1970-74)

Citroen SM (1970-72)

Fiat Strada (1978-88)

Ford Bronco II (1983-89)

Ford Edsel (1957-59)

Ford Pinto (1971-80)

Honda Accord hatchback (1978)

Mazda RX-2 (1971)

Oldsmobile Delta 88 (1979-84)

Pontiac Fiero (1984)

Renault Dauphine (1956-68)

Sachsenring Trabant (1957-62)

Yugo GV (1981-91)

One that should be add though, is the little 3 wheeled car that Mr. Bean keeps causing to tip over. What is that?

For the article check out this link.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4063790/
 
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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Tue Jan 27, 2004 6:04 am

The Ford TEMPO is also a POS!
 
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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Tue Jan 27, 2004 6:07 am

Fiat Multipla has got to be the worst car ever. It looks like a moving piece of cr*p.
 
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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Tue Jan 27, 2004 6:08 am

Saab 99! My father owned two and both cars spent most of their time in repair
shops due to various engine problems. The engine was British.

Anders
 
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Tue Jan 27, 2004 6:19 am

 
SN-A330
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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Tue Jan 27, 2004 6:43 am

Must be a Lada, especially the old types. FYI, these are the latest models:





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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Tue Jan 27, 2004 7:09 am

Oldsmobile 88 reminds me of a joke my dad used to tell:

First Oldsmobile built the 98, then the 88, then the Urinate, for pissing around town in.
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bruno
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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Tue Jan 27, 2004 7:13 am

What are we basing this on?
Looks, sales, performance, reliability?

There are many Pintos on the road today and the Pacer is a well made car.
Interesting to see that the most recalled car in history isn't on this list (1980-85 GM X-body; Citation, Omega, Skylark).
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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Tue Jan 27, 2004 7:33 am

The Ford Maverick (1969-77) would be way up on my list. Had to be one of the ugliest cars ever manufactured...some of the most awful two-tone paint combinations you have ever seen. And every one, no matter how well someone took care of it, was guaranteed to rust big time. Sales of this car went way beyond Ford's expectations. I believe that Mercury also had a version of this thing....I think it was called the Comet.



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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Tue Jan 27, 2004 7:40 am

ElectraBob:
My aunt and Grandma use to share a Ford Maverick. It had the green & yellow plaid interior I am sure Superfly would have loved. Big grin
Rust was a problem with these cars but they ran forever.
Theres had a 302 V8 that had plenty of get up an go. Parts are very cheap and a pleanty.
I think the car was ugly for it's time but there are a good 12-14 new cars today that's outdone the Maverick in terms of ugliness.
Most are found in the car-based SUVs.
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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Tue Jan 27, 2004 7:55 am

Oh yeah, don't forget the family truckster from National Lampoons Family Vacation.
 
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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Tue Jan 27, 2004 8:07 am

Bruno --

My first girlfriend had a 1970 Ford Maverick and she was (unfortunately) very pleased with it....she owned it for 5 years and never had a problem with it.

I do know that they ran forever...had a neighbor that was still driving his until the mid-'80s.



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Theiler
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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Tue Jan 27, 2004 8:13 am

I do know that they ran forever...had a neighbor that was still driving his until the mid-'80s.

Hell, a guy I went to school with was still driving his until the late 90's!
 
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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Tue Jan 27, 2004 12:41 pm

Hmmm, this list doesn't have an ounce of credibility. It sounds as though he is going by personal taste instead of figures and reports to back up his claims.
I am with Bruno 100%!

First:
Ford Edsel (1957-59) ?
This was an amazing car! It certainly had a beautiful front end grille.  Big grin
The reason this car sold poorly was because it came out during a economic recession and Ford already had Mercury & Lincoln in this class.


Ford Pinto (1971-80)?
OK, the car exploding on impact was not good but once corrected, this was a very durable and reliable car. Many are still on the road today.

Ford Bronco II (1983-89)?
This was a solid compact SUV that's way more durable than these car based SUV trash cans.

Oldsmobile Delta 88 (1979-84)?
Oh really? To even further prove this guy is full of $h!t, what changed on the Oldsmobile Delta 88 in 1979? Absolutley NOTHING!
The Oldsmobile Delta 88 design he is thinking of started in 1977! So whare is he coming up with 1979? That car was based off the very trusted B-body frame that lasted all the way up to the 1996 model year.


Pontiac Fiero (1984)?
Again, what's with the dates? Whay change on the Pontiac Fiero in 1985 that made the car better? This small sport two seater was powered by the 2.5 Iron Duke 4 -cylinder engine that was one of the most torquey 4 bangers around.

Honda Accord hatchback (1978)?
What?
This car was extremly popular and reliable and this was the very car that catapulted Japanese car in to the American car market. Japan has been a serious player every since.



As Bruno pointed out, why isn't the 1980-1985 Omega/Skylark/Citation and Phoenix listed? Those were the most recalled car in history.
I still think Lee Iaccoca had some payola with the K-car. My LeBaron turbo caught on fire 3 times! At the junk yard, you will see plenty of 1980s K-cars in mint condition that can't run because of engine fire.

Why isn't the Cadillac 4/6/8 cars listed?
Bring back the Concorde
 
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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Tue Jan 27, 2004 1:08 pm

Of the cars on that first list:

Olds 88: Got caught up in a multi-car rear-ender on the freeway in San Diego in mine. I totaled the car in front of me and the car behind me totaled himself on my back bumper. I drove away from the crash and drove the car until the onset of winter required headlights which it no longer had. At that point I did not feel like straigtening out the headlights so I scrapped the car. That was one solid piece of Detroit iron.

Mazda RX-2: Only car I ever owned two of. Good little car, after they got the engine seal problem fixed. Later I put a Mazda 13B rotary engine in my Datsun 1600 roadster.

BTW the only car I ever owned three of was the Corvair, which is another likely candidate for unappreciated car lists. If I ever own another I'm putting a Nader-for-President bumper sticker on it.

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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Tue Jan 27, 2004 2:22 pm

I think that in terms of cost and gas mileage, the new H2 ranks right up there.

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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Tue Jan 27, 2004 2:26 pm

remind me never to look directly into Suberfly's garage.

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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Tue Jan 27, 2004 2:45 pm

First Citroen SM is a good car, problem was the A/C installed caused engine problems,
also US emission laws gave them trouble with fires.
Lada Niva is good for it´s low price, it´s made for hard, long winters, good heating and reliable in winter (have friends who use them during winter).
People seem to replace "worst" with "ugliest", this was about the worst car.
I say the hydragas system with the Austin Princess wasn´t too good...



[Edited 2004-01-27 06:59:08]
From New Yorqatar to Califarbia...
 
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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Tue Jan 27, 2004 2:58 pm

I don't know why the Olds Delta 88 made the list.

The 77-84 Delta 88 had typical styling of the time with the boxy 4-dr passenger sedan look (Chevy Caprice, Buick LeSabre, Ford LTD, Mercury Grand Marquis, etc...). All those cars looked pretty much the same. So as for looks I don't see what the reason is because you can pretty much include every 4 door big American sedan.

Reliability wise these cars were very reliable. Starting in the late 70s or early 80s(not sure exactly what yr...I want to say 81) they came with a 307 4 barrel V-8 that has proven to be an extremely reliable engine. My dad got over 150,000 miles out of his 83 Olds station wagon and my 87 Cutlass Supreme is about to turn 140,000 miles on that same 307 V-8 that virtually every full size Olds got in the early 80s.

I'm curious to know the reasoning behind the Delta 88 making the list. By the way if you notice, Oldsmobile sold a good number of these cars and for the youngest being 20yrs old there are still quite a few out there.
 
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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Tue Jan 27, 2004 4:16 pm

The Lada Niva is a very good 4x4 (ref to a post above) and could hardly be considered as one of the worst cars, except maybe for the "look".



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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Tue Jan 27, 2004 5:08 pm


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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Tue Jan 27, 2004 7:11 pm

What about the infamous Trabant from the ex-DDR? By the way, the materials used for its body have about the same half-life as uranium!  Smile

Another candidate should surely be the Datsun 120Y.
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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Wed Jan 28, 2004 2:29 am

From a liability standpoint..the Pinto and Fiero win....they caught fire (apparently prior to bursting into flames, the Fiero dropped the tranny first---quite unique). There is question whether FoMoCo knew of the bad tank placement prior to construction (shame..shame..shame)

They will all be outdone by the Ford/Firestone claims.

I think the Yugo would be up there for no other reason than being a 'car without a country'.....
 
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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Wed Jan 28, 2004 2:37 am

ill say anything drivin in Rome-i still cant get over my trip to hell 2 months ago.
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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Wed Jan 28, 2004 2:40 am

Anyone remember a famous American muscle car having a diabolical defect?

The motor mount would break under heavy acceleration causing the 396 (there's a hint) to rotate over aginst the fenderwell, jamming the throttle wide open and tearing the brake master cylinder off the firewall disabling the brakes.

Still a highly collectible car.
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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Wed Jan 28, 2004 2:58 am

Le Car anyone?
My friend called his the Le Sh!t.
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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Wed Jan 28, 2004 4:09 am

I heard the Fiero was initially designed to be a muscle car and they intended on putting a Corvette engine in it. The problem was that the chassis could not handle the power so they turned it into.....whatever it ended up being.

And I can't believe no one mentioned one of the worse of all time; the Cadillac Cimarron (nicknamed the Cadilier), it looked like a pimped out Chevy Cavalier.


Yes, believe it or not, that's a Caddy!!!!!
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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Wed Jan 28, 2004 4:39 am

JetService:
Cadillac has outdone the Cimarron with something even worse. The Catera, SRX, Escalade and Escalade EXT. I'll take the the Cimarron over those new Cadillacs.
Bring back the Concorde
 
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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Wed Jan 28, 2004 4:45 am

Superfly, what did you think of the Cadillac Allente (something like that). I didn't care for that one too much either.
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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Wed Jan 28, 2004 4:51 am

JetService:
Ahh the Allente!
Did you know the body of the Allente was made in Italy and flown to the United States on a Boeing 747 for final assembly. I think that was the world's most expensive front wheel drive car. They started around $65K in 1987.
I think they are neat looking cars. It is certainly different and the electronic instument panel looks a lot like the instrument panel of a 747-400.
They lasted until 1993 and the final year had a Northstar engine.
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POSITIVE RATE
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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Wed Jan 28, 2004 8:52 am

Here in Australia my vote for worst car would have to go to the Holden Commodorre aaarrrgghhh a terrible car! The older ones especially- 80's and early-mid 90's models sucked ass big time. They look crap, are made very cheaply, lot's of plastic and they have problems galore. Engine mounts cracking, Auto trans blowing up, electronic ignition failures you name it these cars had it. And to top it off Holden even made some V8 versions  Nuts so that the tossers who drive them think they are driving a sports car when in fact they are driving an underpowered shopping trolley haha. In my opinion a piece of shit!
 
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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Wed Jan 28, 2004 9:10 am

I wouldn't mind having a Lada, especially a Kopeeka. They are very comfortable and easy to maintain.



Volgas are bad though, they fall apart right away! So do Tavrias.

I think a Zasatava would be cool too.

[Edited 2004-01-28 01:17:32]
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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Wed Jan 28, 2004 9:13 am

A kid in my neighborhood back when I was in High School had a Yugo as his first car. He paid like $1000 for it at some auto auction. You could get three people and pick it up (A few times some people picked it up in the parking lot @ school in put it in some bushes in the parking lot!) and move it around. The moron put a car alarm on the thing (all because he put a $700 stereo system in it), like who'd think a Yugo would have had a nice stereo system anyway?

Here's my nomination for worst car:

Triumph Stag (1970-1977):


A beautiful car, but had its' share of mechanical issues that tainted its' reputation. Engine was prone to overheating, and of course it had the infamous Lucas electrical system.
 
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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Wed Jan 28, 2004 11:35 pm

I wouldn't mind having a Lada, especially a Kopeeka. They are very comfortable and easy to maintain.

@ Sushka : you must be joking. Did you ever drive in one ?

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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Thu Jan 29, 2004 9:02 am

Does anyone remember the Nissan Axxes (sp?) sold in the US in the early 90's?........that thing was recalled and then I think bought back by Nissan because it would catch fire.
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sushka
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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Thu Jan 29, 2004 9:18 am

@ Sushka : you must be joking. Did you ever drive in one ?

Yes every day for more than 7 years. They are good cars.
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RE: Worst Cars Ever!

Mon Feb 02, 2004 2:03 am

Can't forget the Ford Mustang II. I think they were out in the mid-70's. Can't remember. But for some reason, must kit, replica cars such as AC Cobra's, etc. always use the front suspension from this car.

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