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Indians Minor Leaguer: Gay Porn Role "a Mistake"

Wed Jan 28, 2004 2:14 pm

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1720362

CLEVELAND -- Indians minor leaguer Kazuhito Tadano is asking for forgiveness for what he called a one-time mistake -- his appearance in a gay porn video in which he engaged in a homosexual act.

Tadano took part in the video three years ago when he was a college student. Sitting in the Cleveland clubhouse Tuesday, the pitcher said he hoped to put his actions in the past.

"All of us have made mistakes in our lives," Tadano said, reading a statement in English. "Hopefully, you learn from them and move on."

Shunned by Japanese baseball teams, the 23-year-old Tadano signed with the Indians last March. They think he can make their club this spring.

Tadano gave few details about the video, which he made after his sophomore year at Rikkyo University.

"I did participate in a video and I regret it very much," he said. "It was a one-time incident that showed bad judgment and will never be repeated. I was young, playing baseball, and going to college and my teammates and I needed money.

"Frankly, if I were more mature and had really thought about the implications of what I did, it never would have happened."

Through an interpreter, Tadano added: "I'm not gay. I'd like to clear that fact up right now."

The Indians set up the press session after getting many requests from reporters to speak with Tadano. The team wanted to address the issue before spring training starts next month.

Tadano's admission will certainly draw attention to homosexuality in baseball, a sensitive issue that most players prefer to not even discuss.

There are no openly gay players in the big leagues today. The same is true in the NFL, NHL and NBA.

Tadano was one of Japan's top college pitchers and expected to be a high first-round pick in 2002. But after a Japanese tabloid published photos of him in the video a month before the draft, pro teams in Japan did not select him.

"The commissioner of Japanese baseball came out and said, 'You will not draft Tadano,''' asserted the pitcher's agent, Alan Nero. "But this kid didn't assault anybody. He didn't commit murder. If anything, he is guilty of being naive."

Twice in the minor leagues last season, Tadano stood before his teammates and confessed to his participation in the video, which Nero said can only be obtained on the black market in Japan.

Tadano received overwhelming support from players at Kinston, N.C., where he started the season and later at Akron, the Indians' Double-A affiliate.

"I wanted to tell the truth to my teammates," he said.

A former starter, he pitched in all three levels of the minors last season, going 6-2 with a 1.55 ERA and three saves. At Akron, he didn't allow a run in his first 28 innings and struck out 78 in 72 2-3 innings.

Outfielder Grady Sizemore said Tadano's speech last year was well received in the clubhouse.

"You could tell he was nervous," said Sizemore, a top prospect who lived with Tadano this winter. "But I don't think it changed anybody's opinion of him. After it was said and done, nobody thought anything more of it. He's a great guy and a great pitcher."

If he pitches well during spring training, Tadano could win a spot in Cleveland's bullpen. Whenever he joins the Indians, pitcher C.C. Sabathia says Tadano will be welcomed.

"This is the right team and the right organization for him," Sabathia said. "We have good guys here. Everybody has done something that they regret in their lives. He's a person just like everyone else."

Tadano tried out for several major league teams last spring in Arizona. Coming off an elbow injury, he didn't get any offers. Nero said some teams were turned off by what he called "the scandal."

"He didn't pitch well enough for them to ignore it," Nero said. "I also think they were afraid of the baggage that would come with it."

Not the Indians. They liked Tadano enough to invite him to work out at their spring training facility in Winter Haven, Fla. Eventually, they signed him to a minor league contract that included a $67,500 bonus.

General manager Mark Shapiro said the team decided to sign Tadano despite knowing there could be backlash.

"We thought the upside was well worth the risk, energy and time to support him," Shapiro said.

Tadano knows he may face fan abuse in major league parks such as Yankee Stadium, where heckling the visitors is part of the pageantry.

He joked that he's ready for it.

"I don't understand English, so it doesn't really matter," he said.
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RE: Indians Minor Leaguer: Gay Porn Role "a Mistake"

Wed Jan 28, 2004 2:35 pm

So what? It's his life, it's not of anybody else's business.
 
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Wed Jan 28, 2004 2:45 pm

Where can I get that video?  Wink/being sarcastic

I have been reading up on this case for the past few weeks. Interesting how he has to be so insistent that he is straight. That is definetly possible (though unlikely in my opinion), but I don't think there are that many str8s that would be so desperate for $1000, espescially high-level athletes.

However, it is encouraging to see that his team supporting him.

Maybe this is a small stepping stone for the first major league ball player to come out. I've heard of claims that you could have a pretty decent team (with a few all-stars) with the gay players in the game today.
 
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RE: Indians Minor Leaguer: Gay Porn Role "a Mistake"

Wed Jan 28, 2004 8:05 pm

Why is it an issue?
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Wed Jan 28, 2004 10:38 pm

That is definetly possible (though unlikely in my opinion), but I don't think there are that many str8s that would be so desperate for $1000, espescially high-level athletes.

He wasn't a "high-level" athlete when he did this. He was a college kid. And how many mostly straight guys in the porn business have done gay scenes? I'd wager quite a few. So if he says he's straight, I'll give the kid the benefit of the doubt. And if he isn't, so what, as long as he can pitch.  Smile
 
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RE: Indians Minor Leaguer: Gay Porn Role "a Mistake"

Wed Jan 28, 2004 11:04 pm

There is a former MLB player, Billy Beane, who came out after he was done playing. As for this Japanese kid, it's too bad he has to engage in such denial, assuming he is gay. Says a lot about the state of affairs in MLB these days. I wonder if the gay flick had a baseball theme.  Big grin
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Wed Jan 28, 2004 11:44 pm

As for this Japanese kid, it's too bad he has to engage in such denial, assuming he is gay.

How the hell is he in denial, Stretch 8? He says he is not gay, yet you obviously don't give him any benefit of the doubt, and immediately lable him in denial! Talk about a harsh critic, you take the cake.
 
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Thu Jan 29, 2004 12:14 am

I think this hurts him a little though, If he does make it to the majors. Most of the players and coaches will look at him differently, I believe.
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Thu Jan 29, 2004 3:02 am

Well, I'm in pretty dire financial straits but you would have to pay me a lot more than $1000 to do str8 porn  Smile/happy/getting dizzy I think that is the mindset of a lot of people are having in seeing the denial of being homosexual as false.

Well, sorry he DID say he "isn't gay". But he didn't say he was str8 either. Maybe that's the best way to weasel his way out of the situation  Wink/being sarcastic

Now that I've seen his picture though, I don't want the video. I was hoping he was cute. You can see it at http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/baseball/mlb/01/27/indians.gay.porno.ap/index.html?cnn=yes
 
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Thu Jan 29, 2004 5:31 am

I hope we find out that Derek Jeter and Andy Pettite made this same "mistake" when they were in college...  Big grin
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Thu Jan 29, 2004 6:34 am

I don't understand is he a pitcher or a catcher?????
 
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Thu Jan 29, 2004 6:47 am

Maybe has a nice bat
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Thu Jan 29, 2004 6:53 am

You know your team sucks when you have to start hiring gay porn actors....

I don't understand is he a pitcher or a catcher?????

Probably both.
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Thu Jan 29, 2004 6:59 am

It's an issue because mainstream American society still can't handle homosexuality in a reasoned, mature manner. It's improving, but we're still at a stage where people have to endure discrimination and ridicule for loving someone of the same sex.

Who cares whether this guy is gay or not - he shouldn't have to say anything either way - his bedroom business is just that. All I care about is whether or not he can perform on a baseball diamond.

Telling commentary on the homosexual condition in Japan as well. It's easy to rag on China and others, but this fellow's treatment, gay or not, was abhorrent, particularly by the Japanese baseball establishment. The Japanese consume generous amounts of lesbian-themed porn, but for some reason having participated in a male-male video makes one a pariah. Bullshit.
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RE: Indians Minor Leaguer: Gay Porn Role "a Mistake"

Fri Jan 30, 2004 8:53 pm

If you engage in a homosexual act you are gay, it's as simple as that!
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Fri Jan 30, 2004 9:49 pm

Wow Covert, tell that to all the str8 married men who like to play around with guys. They dont think they're gay.
 
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Fri Jan 30, 2004 10:11 pm

If you engage in a homosexual act you are gay, it's as simple as that!

Well, then by your simpleton logic, which is what that is, then a gay person who engages in straight sex-and some do-must be straight, right?
 
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Fri Jan 30, 2004 10:23 pm

If you engage in a homosexual act you are gay, it's as simple as that!

Read that, KROC? I hope this clears up the last of your "identity issues."
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Sat Jan 31, 2004 2:41 am

Just found the screenshots from the video. Apparantley now it is being sold in quantity, not just on the black market as earlier claimed. I won't post the link here to avoid offending people, you'll have to request it  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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Sat Jan 31, 2004 2:42 am

CPDC10-30, can I have the link? And where can I order the full video? DO they have same-day shipping?

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Sat Jan 31, 2004 2:45 am

I could see that coming a mile away...  Wink/being sarcastic
 
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Sat Jan 31, 2004 2:45 am

CPDC10-30, can I have the link? And where can I order the full video? DO they have same-day shipping?

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Sat Jan 31, 2004 3:45 am

So, he is young and thin. Those seem to be the only qualifications for being in a gay porno. If he's got it, why not flaunt it? Meanwhile, some of us are told we are too old and fat to do even the simplest things like date or have friends.

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Sat Jan 31, 2004 4:33 am

OMG, Doing a gay porn film could be a life altering mistake? AA61hvy take the camcorder back to Best Buy and see if you can cancel our hotel reservations.

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Sat Jan 31, 2004 5:00 am

Startvalve, I've seen a better attempt from Singapore_Air. You lose.

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Sat Jan 31, 2004 5:06 am

Maybe has a nice bat

um, he's Japanese dude.......... (flame on Big grin)



If you engage in a homosexual act you are gay, it's as simple as that!

Congratulations, you now hold the trophy for most idiotic statement of 2004. How does it feel?!  Yeah sure

(P.S., ever watch a GGW video? ...they all gay too?  Insane)
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Sat Jan 31, 2004 5:11 am

Lesbians are more socially acceptable, they just are, I know this is unfair but men are horny and MOST men like lesbians.

The act is not what makes you gay, I am betting there are gay porn stars that are straight or bi. In my humble straight man opinion you are only gay if you think you are gay. I am not saying homsexuality is a mindset or decision or even if its genetic. there are thousands of gay people out there convinced they are straight, like Jcs17 for example.
 
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Sat Jan 31, 2004 5:40 am

>>I am not saying homsexuality is a mindset or decision or even if its genetic. there are thousands of gay people out there convinced they are straight, like Jcs17 for example. <<

Good one Startvalve! Big grin

You hit the nail on the head though (no pun intended)... I've had straight sex, and I could have it again and function just fine... but I'm definitely NOT straight. Most people would love to believe it's that black and white... makes it so much easier to label people. But the reality is sexuality is fluid (again, no pun intended). Does anyone think that all the prison inmates who engage in buttsex are really gay?
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Sat Jan 31, 2004 6:34 am

Nice threat there, KROC, but the only thing it will get you is....



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Sat Jan 31, 2004 8:44 am

Lesbians are more socially acceptable, they just are

I wouldnt argue that with you for a second  Sad



I am betting there are gay porn stars that are straight or bi

Not only do they exist, but they're the majority in that industry.
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RE: Indians Minor Leaguer: Gay Porn Role "a Mistake"

Sat Jan 31, 2004 5:37 pm

From what I've seen on the video box cover, he puts to rest that myth about Japanese men in general.  Big grin
 
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Sun Feb 01, 2004 1:21 am

What exactly does he do in the movie????
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Sun Feb 01, 2004 4:54 am

From what I've seen on the video box cover, he puts to rest that myth about Japanese men in general

by what... confirming it?  Laugh out loud
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Sun Feb 01, 2004 10:26 am

You hit one homerun and that doesn't make you a power hitter. You steal one base and that doesn't make you a speedster. But make one little gay porno movie and Covert labels you for life. I don't give a crap what he does, but it sure would be nice if he could pitch. It could be worse, in fact it is in Pittsburgh where their new closer is Joe Table
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Sun Feb 01, 2004 7:21 pm

From what I've seen on the video box cover, he puts to rest that myth about Japanese men in general

by what... confirming it?
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No...exactly the opposite! I was impressed!

I don't like to place labels on people, but if that was him from those pix, then he takes "gay-for-pay" to new heights.

More power to him though, even though he's gonna have a rough time of it. The best thing he could do is shrug his shoulders and say, "So what?"
 
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Mon Feb 02, 2004 4:06 am

you *do* realize that not only can they, but 99% of the time do, manipulate the "images" (if you follow me) on the box exteriors for the sole purpose of enticing the gullible (such as yourself  Big grin) into paying $49.95 for something whose wholesale value is about a buck fifty.... right?  Big grin

if you didnt... then I suggest looking at any box with 'John Holmes' on the cover
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Mon Feb 02, 2004 2:23 pm

Actually considering he had a slave collar on it doesn't change my preception of Japanese at all  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: Indians Minor Leaguer: Gay Porn Role "a Mistake"

Mon Feb 02, 2004 4:17 pm

I personally think the whole thing is messed up....he says hes not gay, but how could anyone NOT be gay engage in that. St8 sex doesn't exactly take a lot of effort to engage if you catch my drift, but if you aren't gay and are doing a video, it can be quite cumbersome....People say a lot of st8 guys are doing gay porn, thats tough to comprehend.

At any rate, if he is truly st8, I think it is great that he would take the risk (even if $$ were motivation) to produce such a flick and not worry about what society thinks.
 
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Mon Feb 02, 2004 4:27 pm

Originally Posted by Alpha 1

Well, then by your simpleton logic, which is what that is, then a gay person who engages in straight sex-and some do-must be straight, right?

No those are bi-sexual....
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Mon Feb 02, 2004 4:36 pm

People say a lot of st8 guys are doing gay porn, thats tough to comprehend.

Nothing tough about it... the #1 reason most men get into gay porn is debt. Most typical causes being a drug habit, or an illegitimate child.

If you're attractive, broke, but owe others mega money; and someone waves $400-1500 cash in front of your face for 6hrs work-- you'd probably be shocked by just what you'd do for it..................


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