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Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Fri Feb 06, 2004 10:59 pm

The body of Carlie Brucia was found early this morning, 5 days after her abduction was caught on video tape. A suspect has been arrested, Joseph P. Smith.
Smith has been arrested at least 13 times in Florida since 1993, according to state records. He was arrested in 1997 in Manatee County on kidnapping and false imprisonment charges, but was acquitted a year later.

Smith served 17 months in prison for heroin possession and prescription drug fraud and was released in 2003. He was arrested eight days later on the cocaine possession charge and was placed on probation for three years.



Terribly sad news. My prayers go out to the Brucia family.
If any good can come of this horrible situation, perhaps the video will indicate exactly what not to do when approached by a stranger. Don't take short-cut through secluded areas, and always be aware of what is going on around you, and fight like hell if they try to grab you.
 
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Fri Feb 06, 2004 11:08 pm

I agree.
Show the video to girls when they get that lesson when they send the boys out to recess. Make it part of that lesson. Scream, scream, and scream. Fight back any way you can. Run away.
Don't end up like Carlie.

Oh. And this guy should fry.
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Fri Feb 06, 2004 11:17 pm

Oh. And this guy should fry.

I normally would agree. But in this case........that would be to humane.  Angry
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Fri Feb 06, 2004 11:34 pm

Burn baby burn! Fry the bastard if he is found guilty. Human scum like this should never be allowed to live.
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 12:11 am

Have you seen his mug shot?



Look at the smirk on his damned face. I'm for the death penalty also.
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 12:12 am

JBirdAV8r, what smirk? I'm not going to defend this asshole, but what smirk? Looks like a pretty blank expression to me.
 
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 12:13 am

Alpha,

I don't know, I just get the impression from looking at his face. I think it comes from having his tongue stuck in his lip like that.

Doesn't seem remorseful at all.

Maybe I'm crazy.

[Edited 2004-02-06 16:14:26]
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 12:39 am

It seems to me that the more we learn about this guy, we will be wondering while he was never punished as a habitual offender. Does Florida have a third strike law?
 
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 12:41 am

Doesn't seem remorseful at all.

On that, I agree with you 100%. He looks like a real low-life.
 
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 12:57 am

I just read the online article and was absolutely repulsed by the news of the grim discovery. Crap like this makes me mad as hell.
This guy, when found guilty, should be hung by his balls, then flogged, stoned, and defecated on by the members of the community and the girl's family. I don't care how much the bleeding hearts whine about my or any other member's stance on severe punishment for this creep. Put yourself in her parent's shoes then come talk to me. Better yet, don't even bother talking to me because nothing will change my mind about how to eliminate creeps like him.

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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 1:12 am

"Well the good book says it, so I know it's the truth
An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth
You'd better watch where you go
And remember where you've been
That's the way I see it I'm a simple man"

Charlie Daniel's Band "A Simple Man" says it straight-forward enough for me. When he's found guilty, strap him to the chair.

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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 1:13 am

Unfortunately, being FL, it'll probably be lethal injection.
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 1:20 am

Charlie Daniel's Band "A Simple Man" says it straight-forward enough for me. When he's found guilty, strap him to the chair.

Yep. that's a redneck for you.
 
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 1:21 am

Doesn't FL still use " 'ol Sparky' the chair. Or did they switch to the lethal?

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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 2:14 am

That asshole should fry. I hope he gets the death penalty. I was hoping they'd find this girl alive, too.  Sad


Yes, I support the death penalty. and here's why:

I knew Jeralee Underwood.  Sad
 
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 2:24 am

Charlie Daniel's Band "A Simple Man" says it straight-forward enough for me. When he's found guilty, strap him to the chair.

Yep. that's a redneck for you.


I don't even know how to respond to that.  Yeah sure
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 5:03 am

Here's what I say: LET HIM FRY!
 
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 5:39 am

God damn! And people wonder why I wont let my 10 year old girl fly alone, or go to the corner store alone or pretty much anywhere for that matter.........All it takes is a split second and BOOM there gone! It would seem that life is getting a lot more complicated and criminal, a lot of people don't agree with me but in my girls back pack I have given her a cell phone in which she can only call out to myself, her mother, grandmother, and emergency 911. (we can also call her!) So even though a lot of people disagree with the way I do it, I will protect my child as much as possible!

As for this guy, I think that the death penalty is the easy way out, If he is found guilty (which he most likely will) he should have to be tortured the exact same way he did to any of his victims! Then put into an open court prison, and label him a child killer, He won't last long!

My deepest sympathy goes out to the family's that this terrible tragedy has affected, and hope swift and justified action so that these family's can try there best and move on with there lives! Our prayers are with you!

death and taxes are the only sure things.
so stated one of the greatest men in our history.
you experienced one of those two already,
and will never be able to experience the other.

but that's not all that you've lost by dying too young,
the rest of us will proceed, through the natural course,
birth, school, love, marriage, and whatever else comes,
but you left us and will never see what would've come.

you could've been a great poet, artist, or diplomat,
perhaps a teacher, musician, doctor, lawyer, or millionaire.
no one will ever know what fate had been spun for you,
This man took away your chance to learn, live, and grow.

death is natural, expected, and a main part of life.
but one can never expect the death of a beautiful young girl,
no matter how sick, we never thought that you would leave us.
and now, too late, we realize all the world has lost,
from this death... Much too young.
 Sad

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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 8:15 am

I'm familiar with Charlie Daniels' "A Simple Man" as well. But strapping this dirtball to a chair is too easy. As old Charlie says..."a short piece of rope & a tall tree and then let the gators do the rest" will suffice, IMO. Guess I'm a redneck too, but in this case...so what. Regards.
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 9:01 am

I do not know how many of you may have seen the Sheriff's news conference, the sheriff was extremly emotional and on the verge of tears but something tells me that this monster must have done something horrific to the child before he killed her. I can not image the horror of having to identify the body of my daughter and to have to know exactly what happened to her before she died and how she was murdered.

I am not in favor off the death penalty in most cases but this act is one where I feel that it is called for, I however also would like to see this guy tossed into the general prison population and not given the luxury of being in PC (protective custody or "punk city"). I am sure the the general prison population would show him the meaning of jailhouse justice. Either way it will be quite a long time before this guy meets his fate.

I can not imagine the pain the family is going throughand I am grateful that my daughter is only 3 and for now wedo not have to let her out of our sight. May Carlie be at peace, may justice be served and may Carlie's family get the support they need tocome to deal with their loss.

I hope all the parents here on A.net will go and tell their children that they love them and give them a hug, I am going to do that right now.

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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 9:01 am

Sarasota is my hometown. I drive by that car wash ALL THE TIME. This really hits me in the gut. I feel such sadness for the family. She was probably getting killed as we were all enjoying the Super Bowl. Florida has letha injection now, I believe. Too humane for this bastard!  Pissed
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 9:05 am

Except for Nebraska and Utah, all States using the Death Penalty have Lethal Injection(I think). That's still too good for him!
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 9:17 am

Unfortunately, being FL, it'll probably be lethal injection.

Not so fast!

Florida, along with Utah... is one of the few states where it's still 100% legal to execute a murderer via

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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 9:27 am

God rest her little soul! My heart goes out to her family and friends!

THIS GUY IS A SICKO AND DESERVES TO BE KILLED.....BUT NICE AND SLOW SO HE FEELS EVERYTHING........

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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 9:31 am

What a sad ending; we were all hoping for the best but this heartless, inhuman beast has now made our entire nation cry. I've no doubt he'll be executed but I'm hoping his family, in case they haven't already disowned him, will allow to have his diseased brain dissected so we can obtain more information on why monsters such as this are among us. A few years ago when I worked for Mobile Fabrics, Inc., parent of The Rag Shop Fabrics and Crafts store chain, the entire home office was saddened by the news of the murder of a teenage girl who worked part-time at the Old Bridge, NJ store. I don't recall the specifics now or even her name but I recall the sinking feeling we all felt when we heard the news. Why, oh WHY does this continue to happen?  Crying
 
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 9:41 am

Now in Nebraska, they still use the JUICE! All 2500 volts of it. Doesn't Washington state use hanging as an alternate method? Even that's too good for the SOB.  Angry
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 9:45 am

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Need I say more?  Insane

Life without parole for people like him.
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 9:56 am

I was waiting for the first EuroLib to step in and say some'in all mushy.... what took ya so long, even the Canucks were gunnin' at this one!  Laugh out loud
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 9:56 am

I vote one of these:

Firing squad
Hanging
Gas chamber
Electric chair
Guilotine
 
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 10:00 am

Must've been that thing called "pride".  Big grin
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 10:03 am

I like guillotine personally, but Florida only uses Lethal Injection and Electrocution (Tom was right).
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 10:09 am

That guy's a slime ball, a wart on the nose of decency and humanity. What that poor girl's family must be going through. He should be cremated alive.
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 11:34 am

Oh come on, what this mofo did to her, he deserves to die. Hell, he should've been in prison for his kidnapping back in 1997 and all that drug charges. Hell, I'd celebrate on his death, wouldn't you? She is only a kid for christ sake. If it was your daughter, wouldn't you pissed?

Alpha 1, you seem to be like the only one against the death penalty while EVERYONE disagrees you. You know what, you seem to be a cool type guy. Try harder, hoss.

IHadAPheo, I stand correct BUT I do have respect for you. My apologies.

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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 11:36 am

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Why don't you go tell Carlie Brucia that life is a right?
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 11:47 am

They should have other ways of dealing with these kind of people. Lethal injection is a fast way out. The should do something more "Medieval". Perhaps the old Vlad Tepes way, (how it was done to the Turks, in Romania). Impailment.

I'm not a sick individual, but acts like these really have no punishment harsh enough. Just imagine your child being one of the victims.
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 12:00 pm

Why not just draw and quarter him.......

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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 12:03 pm

Actually C-boy, why don't you do it with slow moving mules instead, only after you've bathed him in a vat of 70% alcohol.
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 12:05 pm

I support the death penalty in this case. But at the same time, it just seems to be the easy way out.

I just wish they had places like Alcatraz left in this country...
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 12:09 pm

I just wish they had places like Alcatraz left in this country...

Alcatraz was what was WRONG with this country. Although I do support the death penalty.

If I had any say at all in this, I think the murderer should have to die in the same way that the person they killed did.
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 12:12 pm

as I said above I do not think that the death penalty is called for in every major crime, but I do feel it is called for in this case. This could because of the fact that our daughter is our only child and that we had her at the old age of 38 that I feel that the death penalty is called for in this case. I can only hope that neither I nor any one here will suffer in the way I think Carlie's family is suffering now and most important how Carlie suffered.

As to the "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness", then why send criminals to jail since we are taking away their liberty and since for the most part jail is no fun are we not taking away their pursuit of happiness? If the world were a utopia we would not need to deal with such evils, but evil does exist in the world and the one who do evil must be punished.

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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 12:16 pm

Cheap and cost-efficient way for the court system to sentence him to death? Sentence him to a regular maximum-security prison - and throw him in with the general population.

Murders of children don't last long among other inmates.....
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 1:05 pm

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Need I say more?


In this country, you have those rights so long as they do not infringe on the rights of others. What about Carlie's right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? They were brutally taken away from her.

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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 1:36 pm

I cant believe a cold-hearted person would do this to someone. I was also hoping that she would be found alive. It is very unfortunate that she died and my sympathies go out to the family.

This guy should be drowned.

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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 2:15 pm

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Sorry but you have no idea what the United States Constitution is all about. None. Zero.

It is not just words to suit your own ideas.

You look foolish with your "Life without parole for people like him" statement, bub.





[Edited 2004-02-07 06:21:31]
 
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 5:58 pm

Here in Clearwater, the news today was almost 100% devoted to this...like nothing else had happened! Ok, it's important BUT can the media give us a clue as to what else is going on?

Anyway, even if injection doesn't satify the revenge aspect, it does eliminate the threat!
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 7:30 pm

So I may resort to quoting the Holy Bible, then, if I "have no idea what the United States Constitution is all about. None. Zero."  Insane (I wonder what I got when I learnt about the US constitution and wrote my highschool graduation about it - seemed like an idea to me.)

"You shall not kill."

That's why murderers are criminals and deserve to be punished severely. If anyone kills anyone on purpose, he's a murderer. Why resort to doing the same wrong thing they did to punish them?

But I guess any argument against your beloved death penalty is wasted in this thread.

IHadAPheo: "As to the "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness", then why send criminals to jail since we are taking away their liberty and since for the most part jail is no fun are we not taking away their pursuit of happiness?"

You've got a point, no question. My stance is that taking someone's life is worse than taking someone's liberty, and having my personal freedom taken away from me would be the worst punishment. Plus, there is no commandment along the lines of "you shall not imprison your next" - and the ten Commandments are an important basis of modern-day legislation.
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 8:20 pm

Generally I am for death panalty and in this case it seems this is obviously what should be done. I probably wouldn't be so sure if killing that girl would be the only crime he's done. However, it is not like that - he done many crimes before. And, if released (this is hypothetical) he would most likely do more crimes. There is no hope for such low-lifes, and they only costs money for the normal people in society (either directly (e.g. they steal money) or indirectly (e.g. drug addicts who bought drugs from him have to be cured)). Why should the society pay for keeping him in jail? This probably would be good if he would be some clever person (e.g. hacker arrested for hacking into databases) and could do good things (and pay taxes) when released. This case isn't so. Without death penalty, he would surely get life sentence and still never come out.

What I do not understand is, however, the celebration of this by some people. Maybe they would like to live in medieval Europe and be able to witness all these executions (or, in the current times, emigrate to Saudi Arabia, where public beheadings are still done)...
To me, it is absolutely unimportant how will he die. The point is that he will, and thus won't be able to harm society any longer. In Lithuania we did executions by shooting criminals. I find this way the best fitted and most humane.
 
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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 8:24 pm

You shall not kill.

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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 9:00 pm

I'm thinking a good old fashioned "Braveheart"-style execution, any one else with me?


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RE: Carlie Brucia Found Dead

Sat Feb 07, 2004 10:23 pm

"An Eye for an Eye, Tooth for a Tooth."

Somewhere, there must be a reason for that not being a commandment.
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