Delta767300ER
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UPS Drivers

Wed Feb 11, 2004 2:37 pm

Hello to all, Has anyone been a UPS driver in their life, or had a family member that was one? From the intel that I gather it seems like a very good job and they pay their drivers pretty good. I have been thinking about it one day, I would appreciate any information!

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IMissPiedmont
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RE: UPS Drivers

Wed Feb 11, 2004 2:43 pm

I guess the UPS delivery people get paid well, If you consider $60-70K US good. That being after quite a number of years.

The fact is, they are paid quite well but bust their butts for every penny. And love it. If you think you can do the job, go for it, but it's not as easy as you might think. They have to answer to people like me.
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KROC
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RE: UPS Drivers

Wed Feb 11, 2004 9:14 pm

The drivers do bust their asses, and make good money. I consider 60-70K a year good. Then again, if you want to pull a chick like SophieMaltese, well you better find a job that will pull in over 100 G's a year, but I digress. Also, during the holiday seasons, there is plenty of overtime to be had, in which drivers make double time I believe. I used to work in the receiving department of DSC in Plano Tx. and talked with the UPS guys all the time. They work their asses off but make a nice dollar too. I do think though, that you have to spend a bit of time (maybe even a few years) in the warehouse sorting packages and loading trucks before you can get a driver slot.
 
Greg
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RE: UPS Drivers

Wed Feb 11, 2004 11:18 pm

I have a friend who's been with them for seven years.
Not much of a future...particulalry if it tops out at only $70K (yikes!).
He does, however, seem to like it. And swears he would switch because he likes the hours and the fact he enjoys physical labor....

I say go for it.
 
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RE: UPS Drivers

Wed Feb 11, 2004 11:19 pm

Not much of a future...only 70K a year...  Insane
 
Greg
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RE: UPS Drivers

Wed Feb 11, 2004 11:48 pm

You have to agree that 70K/year doesn't buy you shit in 2004. At least not in a major city. Clearly, this may be different in smaller locales. Hell, I was recruited at more than that out of school five years ago---as were most my colleagues. It's not a gloss..it's a fact. It all depends on what you want to shoot for....

70K for a salary cap may be adequate for non-professional positions. But for professional positions it wouldn't even be a midpoint...

Garbage collectors in San Francisco make roughly $60-65K/yearly. That should put it in perspective.


 
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RE: UPS Drivers

Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:19 am

I have a friend at church who has worked for UPS for over 20 years... 14 as a route driver --- his knees gave out and he now drives the semis between San Diego and the LA area. As with all jobs there are costs and benefits -

Greg - lawyers make bank but have to survive college, deal with other lawyers and the public disdain.

UPS Drivers are generally liked by their customers but have very high physical costs over the long run.

As my father said: "The body will give out before the mortgage is paid off..."

 
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RE: UPS Drivers

Thu Feb 12, 2004 12:56 am

.."Garbage collectors in San Francisco make roughly $60-65K/yearly...

yea, that is broken down to $11 bucks an hour and all you can eat....

....that should put it in perspective....
 
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RE: UPS Drivers

Thu Feb 12, 2004 2:14 am

There are adjustments for cost of living in any companies salary structure. Yeah $70k a year doesn't buy you shit in San Francisco, Washington DC, or New York, NY but in San Antonio TX, Crapchester, NY, and Dayton OH and most other cities with a more normal cost of living $70k a year is pretty good.

This is the reason when people want to relocate for money they need to make sure they really are getting more money.
 
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RE: UPS Drivers

Thu Feb 12, 2004 2:51 am

You can bet that if 70k aren´t enough for the drivers, the teamsters will go into tough negotiations. A few year sago they shut down UPS for a week.

Jan
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RE: UPS Drivers

Thu Feb 12, 2004 1:35 pm

".."Garbage collectors in San Francisco make roughly $60-65K/yearly..."

Yes but UPS delivery people truly love their jobs. You will work your butt off (is that bad) but will have people that are happy to see you. All I can add is that it is an honset job with great personal benefits.

Not of course that I'd have a clue.

BTW, the same goes for the purple company.
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RE: UPS Drivers

Thu Feb 12, 2004 11:15 pm

You mean you are not happy to see the garbage truck driver? Try living without him for a few weeks then see how happy you are to see him.
 
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RE: UPS Drivers

Fri Feb 13, 2004 1:19 am

You have to agree that 70K/year doesn't buy you shit in 2004. At least not in a major city. Clearly, this may be different in smaller locales. Hell, I was recruited at more than that out of school five years ago---as were most my colleagues. It's not a gloss..It's a fact. It all depends on what you want to shoot for....

Considering the median income for working families is about 45k per year,
70k is a very decent income. What people "shoot" for may be based on many factors, other than the implied "Well, I went to college attitude".
Most guys I graduated Engineering School with are all in the 80- 90k range, after being in the work force 15 yrs +. The excpetion being those who are now upper level Managers,Execs, or own their own business.

Oddly enough, Doctors make very little coming out of Med. School and work ridiculous hours....
Funny how the guys chasing the ambulance make more than the Residents saving lives in the E.R.
 
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RE: UPS Drivers

Fri Feb 13, 2004 6:17 am

And how clever of us to realize that, right?
 Smile

Most of us out of my law class were recruited as junior associates somewhere around the 80K marker (plus signing bonus) five years ago. If you didn't make Jr. Partner in two years with your new firm, then you were basically chum.

The "I went to college attitude" had nothing to do with it. It's WHICH college you went to that makes a big difference. High level recruiting does not occur at state universities or any that are rated less than very competitive.

Engineering is a bad profession in the last five years...most the ME jobs are now being performed offshore..notably in India.
 
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RE: UPS Drivers

Fri Feb 13, 2004 6:22 am

Not all of us want to sit in college for... what? 7 years? maybe more? in that case 70k a year is pretty good.. Especially considering the job requires no real skills other than ability to lift 70lbs and work independently.. Oh yeah and pass a piss test... I doubt they start out at 70k anyway

I am on track to make about 40k coming out of school.. thats fine for starting out, As I move up I will make more.
 
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RE: UPS Drivers

Fri Feb 13, 2004 11:06 pm

Engineering is a bad profession in the last five years...Most the ME jobs are now being performed offshore..Notably in India.

True, however, the so-called saving incurred by utilizing offshore resources is quickly eaten up by the fact that the jobs take longer than expected, require more resources, and the quality of the work is extremely poor.
Engineering work sent offshore most always require re-working, starting over, or having to push back program launch dates, all of which increase the overall cost of a particular project, because of the above-mentioned points.

A local company is now in the process of developing offshore resources for a particular job. I will not mention the country, but about 30 of their "Engineers" were brought to the U.S. for a 1 week "crash course " for training in the use of a particular modeling software. Now these 30 individuals with (1 week of experience) are this company's offshore resource. What kind of quality shall we expect here?



 
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RE: UPS Drivers

Sat Feb 14, 2004 12:32 am

Your comments are more than valid!

Quite funny you mention that because in a labour case we (the firm) are working on shows that the Indian engineers have finally gotten some savy to begin demanding more money---making them only marginally competitive compared to US workers when you factor in all productivity (face-to-face, program management, infrastructed needed to maintain long distance relationship of contractor, and QA). They have less than 25% of the training of their similiar US counterparts.

I would say, unless THEY are careful, there is going to be a backlash against these offshore firms (and those that do programming) if they get too greedy.

Without specfics, my partners job was to find a loophole so the contract between one of the largest offshore programming companies in Bangalore could be broken.
 
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KROC/Greg

Thu Feb 19, 2004 3:52 pm

KROC, Thanks for the response. I dont plan on getting a chick like SophieMaltese though.

Greg, Thanks for the response and information. Do you know the qualifications/requirements on being a UPS driver?

Thanks,
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RE: UPS Drivers

Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:28 pm

I believe it's 21 years of age, clean driving record. Also experience in driving commercially, i.e. Taxi, Truck etc.

You should look into their Driver Helper position. Usually they have this during Christmas. You help the driver load the truck etc. Atleast you get to RIDE in the Big Brown Truck.
 
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Squad55

Fri Feb 20, 2004 1:11 pm

Hey, Thanks for the 411. I didnt know about the driver helper position, I might check into that sometime.

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RE: UPS Drivers

Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:15 pm

I am in the Navy... $70,000 a year! WHAT I WOULD DO TO GET $70,000 A Year..

Maybe Ill consider it after I retire... KROC, I dont want you to see me in my sexy brown shorts though... I might get attacked...  Big grin
 
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RE: UPS Drivers

Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:20 pm

The driver helper only makes $9 an hour.
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RE: UPS Drivers

Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:45 pm

Not sure about the pay, but a friend of mine just got on the 'list' to be a UPS driver after a couple of years of sorting and loading, so I do know for a fact that you need to start off by doing that.

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RE: UPS Drivers

Fri Feb 20, 2004 3:42 pm

UPS driver helpers only make $9 an hour.
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RE: UPS Drivers

Sun Feb 22, 2004 11:54 am

Become an A&P with UPS, they start at $17,00 per hour and after 5 years they´ll be at $45,00 per hour plus benfits. And these guys don´t kill themselves working...

Jan
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RE: UPS Drivers

Sun Feb 22, 2004 12:07 pm

Being a Driver for UPS is not a bad gig.......just ask Dale Jarrett!

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RE: UPS Drivers

Sun Feb 22, 2004 12:09 pm

70K a year? I know lots of people who wouldn't be complaing with that. And yes it may not buy you the finest crystal, and caviar(sp?) however that is more then enough to survive, you can fairly comfortably on that. What are the hours 12 a day?
 
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RE: UPS Drivers

Mon Feb 23, 2004 3:42 pm

Then again, if you want to pull a chick like SophieMaltese, well you better find a job that will pull in over 100 G's a year

then I wonder what my boyfriend did to "pull" me because he doesn't make that.

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