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What Defines An Alchoholic?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 7:03 am

Ok, serious question time here.

What makes a person an alchoholic? Is it how much they drink? How they act? Can they stop at will? The reason for drinking?
I have been doing alot of drinking the past few months almost nightly and have no desire to stop. I dont have a reason to be drinking, I just feel like it.
Lately I have began to wonder about this. Is this alchoholism?


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RE: What Defines An Alchoholic?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 7:07 am

What makes a person an alchoholic?

Attending meetings. Otherwise they're just drunks.  Big grin

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RE: What Defines An Alchoholic?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 7:09 am

Has it interfered with your work or parenting? If not, I'd say no, you're not an alcoholic. At 10:00am, are you sloshed? If not, then again, I'd vote no problem.


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RE: What Defines An Alchoholic?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 7:14 am

Nope, no work or parenting problems. Dont like drinking in the morning. Typically after sunset (no clue why).

Matter of fact, tonights martini shall be served up in a new Song Airlines martini glass Big grin
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RE: What Defines An Alchoholic?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 7:16 am

Big question

Could you stop easily if you had to?
Could you go somewhere for a week where no alcohol is being served without freaking out? If you can then your not an alcoholic. But without nannying you, the fact that you're doing a lot of drinking almost nightly sounds to me like something is going on in your life - something that you need to deal with.

My 2 cents.
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RE: What Defines An Alchoholic?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 7:17 am

Matter of fact, tonights martini shall be served up in a new Song Airlines martini glass

DANG! Where'd ya get that??? (Says w/ envy.)  Big thumbs up

That reminds me, if you have any WN goodies, I'd love some. err..I'd LUV some!  Laugh out loud I always keep the plastic cup and napkin when I fly.
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RE: What Defines An Alchoholic?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 7:25 am

Dont like drinking in the morning. Typically after sunset (no clue why).

I also only drink after sunset, never during the day, I also don't know why.

I would say that you are not an alcoholic when things like you job, your family and your friends are more important for you than alcohol.

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RE: What Defines An Alchoholic?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 7:28 am

I haven't had a drink since December 19th 2003! Never felt better.  Big thumbs up

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RE: What Defines An Alchoholic?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 7:35 am

Hey, SWA TPA, I love that 'tini recipe  Big grin

It a 'tini or glass of wine a night defines an alcoholic, then I'm busted.

Seriouslym
I think what wanting to drink and needing to drink are the issue.

If its a want, its OK in moderation.

Hell, even the AMA advocates a glass of red a day helps your heart.



But seriously, if you are getting sloshed everynight or if your activities or that of those around you are being affected, then you may have a problem. But thats not the case is it?

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RE: What Defines An Alchoholic?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 7:47 am

M-

Getting a good buzz but certainly not sloshed. I dont like to be sloshed  Sad Also I want but dont need to drink.

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RE: What Defines An Alchoholic?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 7:52 am

My definition of an alcoholic is someone that depends on alcohol to help them feel better, get through tough times, etc. Usually occurs from stress of a job, family problems, etc.
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RE: What Defines An Alchoholic?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 8:13 am

SWA_TPA, a definition I have read is that you can be considered alcoholic if you could not go without a drink for three months.

I believe you have children, right? As the child of alcoholics, let me just say that what might seem like moderation to you may scare your children. If drinking causes you to act strangely or smell funny or say something when you are buzzed that you forget later, your kids will remember this...for a very very long time. It's really frightening and hard to deal with when you are small.

Seriously, girl, sit down and think about why you might feel the need to make your life fuzzy on a regular basis.
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RE: What Defines An Alchoholic?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:00 am

Speaking from personal experience (unfortunately), when the alcohol takes precedence over other things in your life, then there is definitely a problem. I was (and still am) dealing with that. It took me a basically wasted semester (no pun intended) to realize what I was doing to myself. And though I still drink, I'm learning not to let it take such a stranglehold on my life and especially my education. I as well try not to let myself drink before 6 or 7 pm.

It has been a struggle for me; therefore, I would say that if it is a problem for you to go without drinking for an extended period of time, then it is definitely something you should work through. You can email me if you have any questions; when it comes to this kind of problem, I'm more than willing to share my experiences.
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RE: What Defines An Alchoholic?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 1:40 pm

Without getting into all the "signs" claimed by others, you may well be an alchoholic if you cannot see going without for more than a couple days. or think that you have no problem. In fact, if you spend the day thinking about how nice that drink will be tonight, you've got a problem.

Just posting the question should be a warning sign. Tread carefully, you're playing with fire.
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RE: What Defines An Alchoholic?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 1:50 pm

SWA TPA, This very topic is doing the heavy rotation at our house at the moment. My wife likes to have her glasses of wine in the evening. While she isn't polishing off a bottle a night, she is certainly having 2-4 glasses every single night, and like you said, she isnt sloshed, but well buzzed.

She does not see it as a problem, I see it as a major problem. Thing is, drinking doesn't make you clever, and I find that once she has a few in her, I have no interest in talking to her any more, I find that the quality of the conversation drops, she has that dull blank drunk look on her face, therefore not looking overly attractive to me either.

I would not define it as alcoholism, but it has put me off drinking now. If this happened once in a while, she coiuld get as sloshed as she likes, it isn't my business, but every night gets a little tired.

I have a few friends in similar positions, although usually it is the guy drinking, and not the woman

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RE: What Defines An Alchoholic?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 2:19 pm

There's two kinds of alcoholics: one is the classic chemically depend guy that drinks constantly and every day (what everyone thinks of when you say 'alcoholic'); and the other is the guy who doesn't drink often-maybe once a week, but once he starts he loses control and never stops until he's hammered out of his gourd. The first one usually ends up with health problems and the second usually gets in trouble with the law.

But keep in mind, if you get plastered once in awhile or have a drink or two every day, that doesn't mean you're an automatic alcoholic. Everyone's different. If you're really concerned, ask a pro. They'll assess you.
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RE: What Defines An Alchoholic?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 3:09 pm

SWA, I think jetservice put it best.

I mean, the medical literature shows that a nightly glass of red can be a benefit.



In my personal and professional opinion, I would not classify that as alcoholism. I certainly want my one PM spirits but don't need them either.
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RE: What Defines An Alchoholic?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 3:54 pm

Another thing to keep in mind which I forgot to say above...
Alcoholism is a very personal thing. Therefore, you may not be going through the same scenario that I am going through or that other people went through. While there will be parallels, you cannot measure it by the sheer amount of drinks consumed per night. I've gone to some alcohol abuse meetings (not AA) and have found that some of the people there were in much worse situations than I was, but that our thought patterns were similar. What I'm saying is that you really shouldn't base whether or not you're an alcoholic solely on other people's experiences. It is a personal problem, though it may be caused in part by outside influences, and will definitely affect those close to you.
For me, alcohol was and still is an escape from problems in life, even though it is also fun. I would suggest that if you feel the same way, then you might want to take a hard look at your drinking. Once again, feel free to email me if you have any questions.
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RE: What Defines An Alchoholic?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 4:04 pm

I think that as long as you do not go beyond what your liver is managing to handle, it's OK.

There are some websites giving more information about that. But one thing is sure : your liver is your friend as long as you respect its own capacity of working, which may be less than yours.

A liver, like any other organ, is a gift of God and has no price. So be careful if you want going on enjoying some more drinks without problem for your own future.  Smile  Smile

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RE: What Defines An Alchoholic?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:06 pm

An Alcoholic always has an excuse.
 
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RE: What Defines An Alchoholic?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:22 pm

SWA TPA,

You've kinda hit a nerve with me because I have the same thoughts running through my head. My thinking is, if it is a concern to you, you may at least want to talk to somebody about those emotions. I too like to drink, but it's not on a regular basis. My dad has a problem and it concerns me sometimes that it may be "hereditary". I definitely don't want to turn into him. I never want to embarrass my family the way he has. On the other hand, I'll go out with friends, hoop it up and have a great time. But it hangs over my head, you know? Did my dad go through the same thing? No problems early on, but then it turns bad. I'd say talk to someone at least.

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RE: What Defines An Alchoholic?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:25 pm

al·co·hol·ic
adj.
Related to or resulting from alcohol.
Containing or preserved in alcohol.
Suffering from alcoholism.

n.
A person who drinks alcoholic substances habitually and to excess or who suffers from alcoholism.




Personally I think it is a person who can't stop drinking even if they wanted to, which more than likely they don't want to.


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RE: What Defines An Alchoholic?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:39 pm

Most of the doctors will tell you that you shouldn't lie in the sun, especially at noon, because of..... I just do not care. When the sun is at its highest position in the sky, and when I am in my home in southern India, I go up on the terrace roof of my house and stay about 25 minutes in the sun, wearing only bathing trunks, turning side up and side down. It makes me happy and I just like it.

I think it is the same for alcohol : a question of measure.

Do not allow people to meddle in your life if you feel able to measure something that does not please to others but help you to keep well balanced and happy.

But do not forget : measure !!! And be happy !!!

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RE: What Defines An Alchoholic?

Wed Feb 25, 2004 1:38 am

The bottle of whisket under the pillow syndrome is a good sign!!!

Hell some even use the whiskey as the pillow!!!

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RE: What Defines An Alchoholic?

Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:24 am

A friend of mine told me a story about his days in the Marines. Someone had put up a poster of Jack Daniels in the barracks, with a hand written sign that said "Murph's best friend". The CO was interviewing others to see if this person was an alcoholic. When he asked my friend, he said "No" When asked why he answered that way, he responded "An alcoholic always wants a drink....Murph always HAS a drink".
 
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RE: What Defines An Alcoholic?

Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:02 am

Boeing Nut-

I also worry because on my dads side of the family alcoholism runs strong! Grandpa, starts drinking almost as soon as he gets up! Straight vodka on the rocks, blehck!
Everyday, smashed. The man is almost in his 80's now. My Aunt on that side, lush.
Neither one of my parents though EVER drink. They would be appalled with me if they knew.
Also I don't drink every night. Like tonight, I have no desire to go mix one up so we will skip the libations this evening  Smile

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