trijetfan1
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Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:28 am

Who on here owns firearms? And what is your opinion on them? If you don't what is your opinion on them?

-My family owns firearms
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:29 am

I have a .45, just for special people.
Um, I like..... yea ok
 
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:40 am

i owned a Heckler and Koch USP .45 and .40, though not at the same time and i no longer do. they were a tool and i no longer need them, and after having to use them and seeing first hand what they can do no longer really want to use them.
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:50 am

Cancidas, I assume it didn't really come as a surprise what a gun can do?

Some people may need them, but most times it's simply sort of a penis enlargement.
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:55 am

no i was not surpried at what i can do, just after spending time as a medic i no longer want to be responsible for doing that to people.
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jamesag96
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:02 am

Glock .40 S&W...home defense purposes, long trips on the road, and the occasional trip to the post office.

Obtained legally with full background check.
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:16 am

I own two pistols, a Colt M1991A .45 and a H&K USP .45. The Colt is FUBAR and jams continually so it is out of service until I can get it fixed. The H&K sits in my night stand just in case someone is dumb enough to pay me an unwelcome visit.

I also own several rifles, mostly for historical value. They include a Springfield M1903, an M-1 Garand, a Soviet made SKS, a British .303 Enfield, and two .22's from my grandfather. I'm going to try and mount an original WWII era sniper scope on the M1903 and maybe on the Enfield. One day when I have the money, I'll probably get a FFL and purchase a BAR, a Thompson, and other WWII era weapons.
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:18 am

Has anyone had the priviledge to fire an AR-15?!
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trijetfan1
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:20 am

"I own two pistols, a Colt M1991A .45 and a H&K USP .45. The Colt is FUBAR and jams continually so it is out of service until I can get it fixed. The H&K sits in my night stand just in case someone is dumb enough to pay me an unwelcome visit.

I also own several rifles, mostly for historical value. They include a Springfield M1903, an M-1 Garand, a Soviet made SKS, a British .303 Enfield, and two .22's from my grandfather. I'm going to try and mount an original WWII era sniper scope on the M1903 and maybe on the Enfield. One day when I have the money, I'll probably get a FFL and purchase a BAR, a Thompson, and other WWII era weapons."

And
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:22 am

I own three guns: a .22 cal. Browning BL-22, a FN-built .270, and a Remington 870 in 20 ga.

As for the AR-15 question, I have had the opportunity. It was fun.

R,

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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:29 am

I've fired an AR-15 on several occasions but haven't really had a chance to seriously practice with one. The one I've used is easy to fire with little recoil as it was made for match shooting.
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:55 am

I do not currently own a firearm, however, if I were to purchase one, I think I'd pick up either a 12 or 20 guage shotgun. I love shooting those clay pidgeons. I've killed my share of fish in my day, but I'm really not into slaying warm-blooded animals.

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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 12:25 pm

My mother has a .38 Smith & Wesson. Dad used to have a 12 gauge shotgun but he gave it away to one of my cousins.
 
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 1:33 pm

I have a .45 and and a 30.06. I also have a claw hammer, a ball peen hammer and a dead blow hammer. They're just tools to a sane person.

I've used both weapons and wish I had never had to, and neither has ever been pointed anywhere near a human. The .45 was used to put a dog out of it's misery after being hit by a car, and the 30.06 was used to scare away a mountain lion.

There really are somewhat sane gun owners in the US.
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 1:36 pm

I've fired a gun maybe three times in my life - as a child in summer camp riflery class decades ago.
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 1:39 pm

I'm going to get my concealed handgun permit either this week or next week--depends when my fraternity brother, who is a certified instructor (and a cop), can get around to giving us the course. After I get it, I plan on buying a .45 at some point. I don't think I'll ever carry it on my person, I think I'll just keep it in the car when I'm driving or keep it in a drawer at home or in my dorm.
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 1:55 pm

I don't know if this counts, but I inherited a shotgun from my dad and it sits in my garage to this day. I don't really want it and because of my kids have never bought ammo for it. I don't feel real threatened where I live and I don't hunt (except largemouth bass and the occasional smallie) Big grin
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 3:11 pm

Not really sure I want to particpate but did a quick count and came up with 18 firearms.

Been occasionally working on a colleciton of military bolt action rifles.
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 3:34 pm

"Has anyone had the priviledge to fire an AR-15?!"

i've fired a military M4 and have to say the whole AR15/M16/M4 family is a whole design flaw  Sad nothing against poor eugene stoner but i wonder how much lobbying it took colt to have the u.s. military stick to such a weapon for such a long time, considering the performance the alternatives give.
at first i thought it was a toy, it is really not something i would want to pack in combat.
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 3:54 pm

Agreed Zak.

Stoner is up there with the greats of firearms design, Sam Cold, John Browning, Grand, Kalishnikov.

But, I think history has shown the decision to adopt a direct blowback weapon to be less the satisfactory.

Stoners AR-18 design, which incorperates a piston is a much better rifle, and the basis of several international designs.
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 4:03 pm

I have a 9MM Glock in my Camaro, for such occasions when I find myself in the middle of nowhere with a flat tire, or if I ever happen to be in the middle of downtown Jacksonville at night and in the middle of a gang fight....hey, you never know.

It's a true car security system  Big thumbs up

And yes, AR-15's are a holy creation.

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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 4:46 pm

As a European :

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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 5:22 pm

As a far right winger European, I am defacto opposed to firearms... so...



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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 5:49 pm

I own firearms. I use them to hunt, and target shoot....

And the Canadian government knows exactly how many, and what kinds..... and it only cost over a billion dollars of tax money to do so.  Big grin
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 5:58 pm

2 Billion was the last number I heard. On a system that was sold at what 1/5th of that cost.

I also heard estimates that up to 50% remain unregistered.

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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:08 pm

None in the UK but in Thailand we legally own a Colt .45 (my wife's mother), a pistol (don't know what type, sorry) and an MP5 automatic rifle which was acquired by my wife's mother from the Thai military. My wife's mother has the authority to carry firearms in public due to her role - she even brought one into the US embassy in Bangkok and when the scanner went off and they pulled out the Colt she showed them her badge and they had to let her in.
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:09 pm

2 Billion was the last number I heard. On a system that was sold at what 1/5th of that cost.

I also heard estimates that up to 50% remain unregistered.


Nah, I believe the tab hovers around 1.25 billion. Of course, the Liberals are slow to admit how much cash has been flushed down the toilet on a system which is ineffective at best, and intrusive and in violation of property rights at worst. We had a system which worked perfectly well before.

But still, a billion plus...... That's still a lot of money for a country of only 30 million folks..... about $45 a person for every man, woman and child. And there are not that many firearms up here - only million or two.

As for how many are unregistered..... well, no-one knows for sure. The computer systems on which the records of who-owns-what were kept suffered some sort of catastrophic failiure a few months ago. A lot of folks - including my father - were sent notices that they knew he had guns, but not what kind nor how many due to the loss of the data.... and if he could "please" register again.

Great system.

Oh, and.... yes, I've fired an AR-15 derivative. It was fun. I'm looking forward to purchasing perhaps an M4 carbine in the spring or fall.
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:15 pm

Also, I have fired an Uzi 9mm before, again in Thailand at a range. the thing is, how the hell can people in movies use twin Uzi's? I mean, the recoil was crazy and I had to fire it with both hands to avoid spraying bullets over the place and I am a pretty strong guy.
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:16 pm

Evidently owning guns, designed only for killing humans, is perfectly acceptable, whereas hearing words on TV is evil.
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:21 pm

Evidently owning guns, designed only for killing humans, is perfectly acceptable, whereas hearing words on TV is evil.

Well, people forget that it's the former which helps protect freedom of the latter.
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 6:56 pm

Evidently owning guns, designed only for killing humans, is perfectly acceptable, whereas hearing words on TV is evil.

What guns are only designed for killing humans?

handguns? I think not.

We have a ramper that dropped a chargin bear 10 feet away with a .454 Casul. .22 pistol are great for hunting Ptarmigan and Rabbits .44 Magnum is very popular as a survival pistol for pilots up here. .357 is popular as a hunting cartridge in the south, lot of deer and javalina are take with pistols. It takes as much skill to approach an animal and hunt with a pistol as it does with a bow and arrow. You have to get that much closer on the stalk.

Cowboy action shooting is a very popular hobby, not only in the US but overseas, I understand there is decently large following in New Zealand. And I again state putting holes in the bottom of a coffee can is just plain fun.


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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 8:04 pm

I own several legal deactivated historical guns to go with my collection of historical military uniforms (WW2 Allied). I would like to include unmutilated guns of historical value into my collection (handguns, rifles, machine guns), like I would like to have one each of each small arm issued to the British and Soviet infantry of WW2 (sorry, to the American A-net members, there are already too many people around collecting American gear, for me the other stuff is more interesting), but I don´t want to bother with all the hazzle of getting a gun permit. A permit for FA weapons would, though theoreticaly possible, out of my range because I´ve got neither the money to bribe civil servants, nor do I have the influence at high government positions. These collector licences are left for retired general officers or millionaires.

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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 8:23 pm

"Also, I have fired an Uzi 9mm before, again in Thailand at a range. the thing is, how the hell can people in movies use twin Uzi's? I mean, the recoil was crazy and I had to fire it with both hands to avoid spraying bullets over the place and I am a pretty strong guy."

you cant really fire the uzi the way its shown in movies, you have to use the collapsible buttstock, and its a pretty decent weapon. if you fire it off the hip you should be pretty strong to get decent results up to 25m. for longer ranges pray+spray isnt practical anyway unless you want to end up realizing you hit nothing and have an empty mag
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 8:28 pm

BTW, if I had these old guns, they would probablyspent most of the time in a safe, with occasional shooting on a target range. At least where I live I don´t see the need to carry heavy metal. In other regions of the world it might be different.

Jan
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 8:55 pm

I have a Colt M1911 as well as my great-grandfathers old hunting rifle. I forget the caliber but it has an octagonal barrel.
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:50 pm

I own a Kahr K40. I wouldn't carry anything else, its small, easy to carry, and easy to shoot. All stainless steel, no plastic guns for me thanks. I think the .40 cal is the only way to go, 9mm is to small and .45 is like shooting a cannon.


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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Wed Feb 25, 2004 12:11 am

Ive got a full sized take to bit replica of a Heckler and Koch MP5K assault weapon. It looks nice, and is cool as a prop for fancy dress nights out clubbing. Would like a real one, but theres not enough room in this country to fire guns safely, much less automatic weapons. Would be nice though.

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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Wed Feb 25, 2004 12:14 am

Has anyone had the priviledge to fire an AR-15?!

yes, the M16A2 and the M4A2. also, M9, M249, and M2.
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Wed Feb 25, 2004 12:43 am

I've fired an AR-15 along with a few others but never owned a gun. I'd like to get one but not until I can take the proper training to get a license to carry it. I am not comfortable enough with a gun yet to feel I should own one but I do think at times I'd feel safer having one.
 
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Wed Feb 25, 2004 12:44 am

I've had the opportunity to fire both the AR-15 and the "Tommy Gun". The AR-15 is nice, but I hear the M16 is not real good for combat use. As for the Tommy Gun, I don't like it. If you want a .45 weapon, get a pistol, not this thing. It is very heavy and clumsy. As for myself, I own a Ruger 10/22. It's a great all-around gun. Very customizable, inexpensive, cheap to shoot, and popular.

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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:26 am

Actually I have to say I thought the AR-15 was a pretty damn solid design. I have played with one on several occasions and thought the design was very well thought out and I have never had a misfire or jam with it. Yes it does sort of feel like a BB gun but I do not think this takes away from its unbelievable accuracy and ruggedness.

To qualify that yes the AK is totally indestructible but that is more of a design fluke than anything. The AR-15/M-16 family is as well designed and as rugged as they need to be otherwise there would be a replacement in the works instead of just having the design further refined over the last 35 or so years.
 
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:32 am

My father used to have an AK-47 and AK-74, but that was in the good old communist days of the USSR.

As an Israeli and Canadian citizen, I don't need firearms to make me feel safe.
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:41 am

Who said they were needed to feel safe? Some of us just have them for fun or because we can.
 
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:49 am

Some of us just have them for fun or because we can.

Yeah, I guess it is fun to shoot yourself accidently, but hey, you have the freedom to do so.
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:52 am

Jutes do you own a gun? Have you ever held a real one? You have to be a complete idiot to shoot yourself accidentally.
 
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:54 am

Jutes do you own a gun? Have you ever held a real one? You have to be a complete idiot to shoot yourself accidentally.

No. Yes. Happens more often then you think.
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:56 am

I know it happens pretty often.. There are a hell of a lot of idiots in the world. Following some common sense safety practices makes the chances of that happening as close to nil as you can get. Would you like me to post a link to a webpage on gun safety for your benefit?
 
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:09 am

"t I do not think this takes away from its unbelievable accuracy and ruggedness"

hate to break it to you, but the ar-15/m16/m4 series weapons are not rugged at all, they need regular cleaning, every few hundred rounds, otherwise they WILL fail due to their design. other battlefield proven designs dont have such drawbacks, are cheaper and easier to take care of in field conditions.

accuracy is something where the gun system itself usually plays a smaller role then the sights used and the skill of the shooter and of course the ammo quality.
but yes the hbar versions are said to be pretty accurate. so if you want a "military look decent accuracy totally overpriced and a b*t** to maintain sporting rifle" go for an ar15 series weapon!  Smile

on a site note:
trial shooting with new german mg43, talk about one rugged sob:
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:15 am

Hey Jutes... which part of the country are you from?
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RE: Who On Here Owns Firearms?

Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:26 am

I have a great-great-uncle who killed himself when he was a college student, age 22. He accidentally dropped a rifle, and it discharged and the bullet hit him. It was circa 1900 or so, and accidental discharges happened a lot more back then.

On another note, according to Ripley's Believe It Or Not, my mother's hometown of Guntown, Mississippi, was home to the Outlaws, the Bandits, Smith's & Wessons. My mother is a Wesson. Not related to either the Wesson Oil family or the gun company, though.

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