galaxy5
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Kerry Is Senate's Biggest Leftist, Rating Shows

Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:42 am

Based on its ratings of congressional votes, the National Journal has pronounced John Kerry the most liberal senator in 2003, more liberal than his fellow senator from Massachusetts, Ted Kennedy.
National Journal gave Kerry a composite score of 96.5 out of 100, based on how he voted on a range of issues, but acknowledging that Kerry missed a good number of votes while he was out campaigning.

National Journal said Sen. John Edwards had a composite liberal score of 94.5, making him number four on the most-liberal list.

The Bush-Cheney campaign is making Kerry's very liberal voting record an issue, prompting Kerry to respond that Republicans are attacking his patriotism.

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RE: Kerry Is Senate's Biggest Leftist, Rating Shows

Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:45 am

Nothing new here... Kerry's further left than even Kennedy, and [conservative] media's been making that point since the day he announced his candidacy
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RE: Kerry Is Senate's Biggest Leftist, Rating Shows

Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:48 am

Yes he's left wing, yes he's a liberal, yes he works for the liberal party.

What's wrong with that?
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RE: Kerry Is Senate's Biggest Leftist, Rating Shows

Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:57 am


Kind of funny, but the only person that is denying that John Kerry is a Liberal, is John Kerry himself. So what, people are still voting for him.
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RE: Kerry Is Senate's Biggest Leftist, Rating Shows

Tue Mar 02, 2004 8:08 am

... and the level of political discourse in the US reaches a new high.

"Your a liberal who taxes and spends ... am not, am so ...., your a conservative in hoc to fundamentalist christians ... am not, am so ... "

Pathetic !

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RE: Kerry Is Senate's Biggest Leftist, Rating Show

Tue Mar 02, 2004 8:24 am

"The Bush-Cheney campaign is making Kerry's very liberal voting record an issue, prompting Kerry to respond that Republicans are attacking his patriotism."

So a liberal can't be a patriot?
 
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RE: Kerry Is Senate's Biggest Leftist, Rating Shows

Tue Mar 02, 2004 8:31 am


Racko

Nobody is attcking John Kerry's patriotism, for some reason John Kerry is afraid to admit what he is, a Liberal. So what, stand proud and admit it, it's the truth.
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RE: Kerry Is Senate's Biggest Leftist, Rating Shows

Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:34 am

Well that may be true .... But at least he's not Bush. That's the main reason I will be voting for him. The second reason why is because he is a liberal.
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RE: Kerry Is Senate's Biggest Leftist, Rating Shows

Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:57 am

Midnightmike might have nutshelled it; Kerry is a liberal but won't volunteer a stand of such in public. If he did so proudly, it might garner him more support (not mine) and it would be stance to help solidify a supporting base. Like him or rant reverse, I don't think there is much question in GWBs' thoughts. John Kerry is trying to do the ole thing..."please everybody". Git yer a** out there and REALLY say what you mean. My thoughts, only. Regards..Jack
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RE: Kerry Is Senate's Biggest Leftist, Rating Shows

Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:00 am

When people start to learn more about Kerry, and not just the spin the media has been putting on it, his support, except among the hard core leftists, will quickly erode. Hard core leftists like Kerry do not win national elections and that will be proven yet again come November.

Also, lots of Kerry's statements will be coming back to haunt him. One of his most recent is his claims that the War in Afghanistan was wrong and we should have responded to Sept. 11th just like Clinton would have, leave it as a law enforcement problem. The vast majority of Americans supported the war in Afghanistan and the War on Terror and telling people that we should have continued the failed policies of Bill Clinton will cost Kerry a lot of votes.
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RE: Kerry Is Senate's Biggest Leftist, Rating Shows

Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:04 am

B757300, Are you saying that you know everything about Kerry ??? And where did you get your facts ???
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RE: Kerry Is Senate's Biggest Leftist, Rating Shows

Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:12 am

Galaxy5:
Thanks for the info. Now I am going to vote for John Kerry tomorrow instead of John Edwards. Big grin
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RE: Kerry Is Senate's Biggest Leftist, Rating Shows

Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:13 am

Well that may be true .... But at least he's not Bush. That's the main reason I will be voting for him. The second reason why is because he is a liberal.

Well, i guess if you just wanna tote the party line and not even try to think for yourself.
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RE: Kerry Is Senate's Biggest Leftist, Rating Shows

Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:17 am

Galaxy5:
Whoa you may want to do the same.
People who vote for Bush aren't using there brain at all.
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RE: Kerry Is Senate's Biggest Leftist, Rating Shows

Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:30 am

Hey, 'Fly; I don't want my brain to fry before I git them car things to you and your buddy (if I keep planning on voting for GWB, will my brain fry, or am I just not using it at all?),

Anyhoo, forgot S-Tues is big for you guys...do what you feel and don't worry about the naysayers...that's why we can do what we can do and vote our feelings without fear of reprisals.

On related topic, it seems that (local, Detroit) television is at least "winking and nodding" towards a Kerry "sweeps", almost relevating Edwards to an also-ran before tomorrow's big deal; do the TV media out there in CA seem similar or is there a more diversified voter-base than what the TV stuff allude to? Kind regards...Jack
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RE: Kerry Is Senate's Biggest Leftist, Rating Shows

Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:57 am

Cptkrell:
I know you are a very smart guy that happens to be conservative.
Part of the disdain I have for Bush is that there is no checks & balances in place to challenge this man. The media has fell for his hook line & sinker. The man is such a moron and his administration is evil.
The major networks never call the man out on anything yet they beat up on Howard Dean for giving a spirited speech?  Wow!
The media has painted Bush as some sort of wholesome guy who can do no wrong. That's why a lot of people feel safe voting for him.

Not only has Bush failed to uphold some decent ideals of the Republican Party (small government), he has also been chipping away at our Constitution.
George W. Bush makes Richard Nixon and Barry Goldwater look like Saints!

For the love of country, we need to dump Bush & Cheney!



BTW, George Romney and Gerald Ford were great leaders and among my favorite Republicans.
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RE: Kerry Is Senate's Biggest Leftist, Rating Shows

Tue Mar 02, 2004 12:07 pm

So what if he is? I know, to some of you ultra-conservatives, that's almost equal to being a major crime, or to being un-American, but why is that even an issue? Bush has taken the nation so far to the right, that the GOP will complain about anyone's record, be he liberal or moderate.

Kerry or Edwards has my vote come November. Nice try at stigmatizing someone, Galaxy5. Why am I not surprised?
 
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RE: Kerry Is Senate's Biggest Leftist, Rating Shows

Tue Mar 02, 2004 12:17 pm

Alpha1:
Bush has taken the nation so far to the right,...

Even that's debatable. It sounds as though some are willing to change the definition of conservative as they accused Bill Clinton on the word sex.


G W Bush has expanded teh size of government and it's more intrusive than ever.


The rating system this group has used is suspect as well. John Kerry wasn't so liberal when he voted to give Bush the power to go to Iraq and the Patriot Act. I have sources that has Kerry at 75% liberal.

Anyway you slice it, he will be a much better leader than George W. Bush.
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RE: Kerry Is Senate's Biggest Leftist, Rating Shows

Tue Mar 02, 2004 12:30 pm

S'Fly: you bet we're friends!

If we were all Orwell's "children" we'd ALL have Renault 2CVs and black-and-white screens/recorders in our bedrooms/bathrooms/etc. with a direct feed into Big Brother. On the other politico thing, I was wondering if your Calif. local media alludes to the impossibility of Kerry being even remotely challenged in tomorrow's S-Tuesday. Many things I've heard/seen/read in this area seem prejudiced towards him. (P.S., ahead of time; I agree, Howard Dean got the dems "thinking" and may be responsible for a less than ho-hum campaign).

I don't think GWB is as bad as you do, but duly note good points in your statements. I ain't a really a young guy, and, as I get older and more exposed I find that I am MORE receptive to other opinions rather than being set-in-stone in "old" ways; something I find relatively non-flexible in this forum.

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RE: Kerry Is Senate's Biggest Leftist, Rating Shows

Tue Mar 02, 2004 1:07 pm

Right leaning centrist, yes, leftist... there are none in the US senate.



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RE: Kerry Is Senate's Biggest Leftist, Rating Shows

Tue Mar 02, 2004 1:39 pm

Cptkrell:
If we were all Orwell's "children" we'd ALL have Renault 2CVs and black-and-white screens/recorders in our bedrooms/bathrooms/etc. with a direct feed into Big Brother.

We're almost there.  Sad

Howard Dean got the dems "thinking"

Howard Dean got a lot of people thinking. That's why the press had to crush him ASAP. The establishment doesn't want people to do that. We're supposed to be more concerned about Kolbe Bryant, Paris Hilton and Janet Jackson.  Pissed

I was wondering if your Calif. local media alludes to the impossibility of Kerry being even remotely challenged in tomorrow's S-Tuesday.

It's all about John Kerry out here. I haven't seen any thing on John Edwards. I am voting for John Edwards tomorrow. I know he'll lose but I still want him to get attention and possible a VP choice.


I am MORE receptive to other opinions rather than being set-in-stone in "old" ways; something I find relatively non-flexible in this forum.

I agree 100% on that!  Big thumbs up


Oh and about that Renault 2CV, there is a guy around the block that has one. He also has a LeCar and a Delorean. He obviously is a French car fan.  Smile




YYC777:
Thanks for the chart, I guess I may have to vote for Al Sharpton then. Big grin
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RE: Kerry Is Senate's Biggest Leftist, Rating Shows

Tue Mar 02, 2004 1:39 pm

777yyc; that's the same bogus(?) chart, as per the way the questions are asked, that I personally filled out and it registered myself almost equally between a diagonal from Mosely-Braun to Rev. Sharpton.

Can't buy it. Can't buy Kerry being that close to center of the cross-hairs.

Charts be charts, but you can have a ball. I once designed a bar chart at work for a stupid boss; I had every bar within a three mile radius of the Tech Cntr on it, including possible radar traps. Regards...Jack
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RE: Kerry Is Senate's Biggest Leftist, Rating Shows

Tue Mar 02, 2004 1:50 pm

That chart had me way out in lower left corner. My score was -9,-12.
I guess I am more leftist than Al Sharpton. Big grin
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RE: Kerry Is Senate's Biggest Leftist, Rating Shows

Tue Mar 02, 2004 2:02 pm

I took the test too. I am down there with Nelson Mandela, Dalai Lama and Superfly. I suppose I am in a great company! Big grin

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RE: Kerry Is Senate's Biggest Leftist, Rating Shows

Tue Mar 02, 2004 2:15 pm

An-225:
No, you are up there with Nelson Mandela, Dalai Lama and Superfly. Big grin
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