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How Much Does Presidental Personality Matter?

Tue Mar 09, 2004 3:44 pm

I am 18 and this will be my first time to vote for President. One day I was sitting down at lunch and turned on MTV. They were showing the Presidental Pop Culture Pop Quiz. Basically, they went to New Hampshire before the primary there and tracked down each candidate and asked them 5 pop culture questions (What is Eminem's real name? What is a metro-sexual? What is bling-bling? Who does LeBron James play for? etc....) Liberman was very personal and got all questions asked correct. They couldn't track down Edwards. Dean was great and talkative eventhough he only got like 2 right but he knew a lot of outside info that he threw in. The big shocker for me was Kerry. It was like seeing him without a prepared speech to hide behind. He got 2 or so right but it was his attitude towards the whole thing in general that really turned me off. At one point he had a confused/dejected look on his face and asked one of his aides "why do you all insist on doing this, I don't get it".

After watching something so simple as a one hour show on MTV it really slanted my democratic Presidental personality views. I found out that Liberman is a much nicer guy than the media makes him out to be and the Kerry is a true donkey. This is almost enough for me not to vote for him.

When you vote, how much does personality play into your decision?
 
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RE: How Much Does Presidental Personality Matter?

Tue Mar 09, 2004 4:02 pm

Personality plays no factor. I usually do a sufficient amount of research into their backgrounds, their proposals, their policies. I don't mind having the most disgusting human being in office, as long as our country's headed in the right direction. (Right now, we have a grinning idiot doing nothing right....worst of both worlds.)
 
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RE: How Much Does Presidental Personality Matter?

Tue Mar 09, 2004 4:20 pm

I couldn´t care less if a politician knows the latest pop stars, I, for myself, dodn´t even care about them when I was a teenager... always prefered Jazz over pop. But he should have a good knowledge of history to prevent himself from repeating other people´s mistakes. And if he keeps his zipper closed or not, is nobodies business except for his wife and the other party involved.

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RE: How Much Does Presidental Personality Matter?

Tue Mar 09, 2004 4:23 pm

MTV sucks - there is NO pop culture, all it is is just people that are "talented" (talented means having lots of money nowadays) doing their stuff. How important is pop culture? 0, it's not.
I'd like to elect a president that has a Higher IQ than a retarted ant.
 
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RE: How Much Does Presidental Personality Matter?

Tue Mar 09, 2004 6:08 pm

What I am trying to ask is regardless of pop culture. I could care less about if they know Eminem's real name. What I am getting at is the attitude that they took towards the interview and how much personality matters to you. If using a pop culture quiz rubs you the wrong way, here is a discussion about an experience someone had with Kerry.

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/non_aviation/read.main/515776/

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RE: How Much Does Presidental Personality Matter?

Tue Mar 09, 2004 11:01 pm

I think DFWLandingPath has an interesting and valid point. It is of interest to know what kind of person the candidate is, and the behaviour can be indicative of how that person will react to priorities and interests that are not his own, or not tied to his own - like getting votes. George Bush (Sr.) was criticized years as being out of touch with the concerns of the common folk ago because someone asked him if he knew how much a gallon of milk cost in the supermarket, and he didn't know. Not a very important issue to know, in the grand scheme of things, but Bush's image was hurt by this.

From what you discribe, Kerry's reaction does not surprise me. He is a wealthy New England snob. Dean's behaviour is telling as well - he's a bullshit artist. I am pleased by Lieberman - regardless as to whether he got the answers right or not (I think that is immaterial), he at least showed openness and confidence to tackle some unscripted and playful subjects outside of his normal realm. Too bad he got booted out of the race so fast. Had he stayed it, I might have found myself favoring a democrat for president for the first time in my life.

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RE: How Much Does Presidental Personality Matter?

Wed Mar 10, 2004 5:18 am

The point here is not the pop culture quiz. The point here is the guys attitude. John Kerry is a snob that is completely hopeless without a speech to read. Why do you think he never appears on the primetime talk shows? He can't handle the heat. He only goes on Sunday morning, where the heat is much less.
 
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L.1011

Wed Mar 10, 2004 6:24 am

Let´s see if there´s a direct debate between the contenders. From what I´ve seen so far, Kerry won´t be the one to be scared of it.
 
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RE: How Much Does Presidental Personality Matter?

Wed Mar 10, 2004 8:08 am

Yes, Klaus, let's see. However, do notice I never said anything about President Bush in comparison now did I?
 
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RE: How Much Does Presidental Personality Matter?

Wed Mar 10, 2004 9:15 am

For people on either extreme, personality does not matter. However, for many of those in the middle, personality plays a tremendous role. President Reagan could carry a room, and he carried many Democratic states. Why? Did you see who the Democrats ran against him?!? Carter, who I think is a great man and was a great governor but not a great president, was not the most exciting person to be around. And Mondale? Well, no reason to bring up old wounds now, is there? Then with the first Bush and Dole, neither one of them had as much personality or could carry a room like Clinton could. Dole showed afterward, however, that he is a truly funny man and has quite a powerful personality; during the campaign process, though, he did not seem to be a cold uncaring person. And in 2000, Bush had more personality than Gore and therefore won the election.
It is unfortunately not all about the policies and choosing what is in the best interests of the nation. Many voters pick their candidate based primarily upon looks and personality. I can say for a certainty that my vote is not swayed by personality: if it were, I would not have voted for Nader last time around. But if one of the candidates comes up with a phrase like Reagan did in 1980 (There you go again, Mister President), that candidate will likely win the election. Here's hoping that people actually try to choose on the issues, though.

And L.1011, President Bush is also a very snobby person. He grew up in the oil rich town of Midland, Texas, his family belonging to the ritziest clubs in town. He looks down his nose at people below him and does not seem to be able to accept people as his equal. Maybe it is some kind of conatgious disease that is mostly found in capital office buildings Smile
And the last time I saw Bush on TV was with Tim Russert on Sunday morning television. Other than that, only Barbara Walters with a one-on-one with the President (and she always asks the tough questions, doesn't she Insane)

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RE: How Much Does Presidental Personality Matter?

Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:32 am

I guess it´s a defense mechanism... He feels inferior intellectually, so he´s recurring to his presumedly superior social status. Competent people don´t need to look down on others (though some still do).
 
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RE: How Much Does Presidental Personality Matter?

Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:58 am

You can think what you want Texan. I have no comment on Bush. Notice that I pointed that out. I refuse comment, but you may contact my spokesman at 555-555-1212.

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