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Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 7:39 am

Ever since I saw that programme on British Television its made me wonder about the first moon landing. If MAN really did go to the moon all those years ago why hasn't He been there since the historic landing ? With the technology we have now, particularly the Space Shuttles and all the satellites that are being sent far into the Solar System ( and beyond) and not forgetting our beloved Concorde who could fly at such a great height, it leaves us asking why hasn't there been another mission to the Moon in these modern times?
The question is has Man REALLY been to the moon at all?. Watching the claims that the landing of the sixties was a fabrication does make one wonder.
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Sat Mar 13, 2004 7:41 am

Yes. Yes we have. Filler.
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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 7:43 am

Nice thread.

I am subscribed to a magazine in which the moon landings had questioned some time ago. They included pictures in which you could see strange things and the reasons they gave were logical. It really made me wander if man actually had been on the moon.
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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 7:44 am

You haven't been watching "Capricorn One" again, have you?!  Smile
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077294

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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 7:45 am

It really made me wander if man actually had been on the moon.

Really? Where did you go?

Man has landed on the moon.

Tada!

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html
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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 7:51 am

Well, they came with good arguments. It's like the story says in the link you posted, about the faked pictures and stuff.
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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 7:52 am

If MAN really did go to the moon all those years ago why hasn't He been there since the historic landing?

Because there is not much to do at the moon, it's not much more than a giant mirror, nothing really spectacular, at least to my knowledge...

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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 7:55 am

Couldn't you do a lot of useful science there?
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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 8:10 am

Couldn't you do a lot of useful science there?

Like what? Bear in mind just how expensive and dangerous it is to get there.
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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 8:17 am

Well, you know that Fox show was pretty convincing. They had the leading conspiracy theorists in the world. As a matter of fact, I saw one guy on a JFK documentary, too. Said Castro rigged a lawnmower to malfunction and shoot its blade into JFK's head. And he had all this great evidence to back it up - like a diagram he drew.
 
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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 8:26 am

Said Castro rigged a lawnmower to malfunction and shoot its blade into JFK's head. And he had all this great evidence to back it up - like a diagram he drew

Is there a website where I can get more info?



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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 8:28 am

"If you believe they put a man on the moon, man on the moon. If you believe there's nothing obviously..."

Some lyrics from one of my favourite bands.

I have no doubt that people have landed on the moon. It would be very exciting indeed if an extra world - full of life or past life - was found.

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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 8:49 am

I doubt it too

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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 8:55 am

"If MAN really did go to the moon all those years ago why hasn't He been there since the historic landing ?"

We have. There have been several trips to the moon since Apollo 11.


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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 9:06 am

"If MAN really did go to the moon all those years ago why hasn't He been there since the historic landing ?"

Give me a good reason why man should return to the moon?  Smile


This topic actually came up last week in my class. Some saying that the US never landed on the moon. But why would the US invest billions in a project that would have never materialized. One could colonize the moon and still some jacka$$ would say that no one has ever landed there. You can compare it with saying that America (meaning the continent) has yet to be discovered.

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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 9:12 am

Yes, of course we have been to the moon. Every time there's a big achievement there will be conspiracy theories.

Just because I took a trip to Europe 4 years ago, and haven't been back since, doesn't mean I didn't really go. What kind of reason is that to think I was pretending?

I don't know why we haven't been back to the moon yet. Maybe because it isn't as interesting as the other planets and their moons. I think the best research that can be done on the moon would be to build a base and see how humans cope with life away from earth.

777263ER, thanks for posting that link. badastronomy.com is an excellent site for refuting the conspiracy theories, and all of you doubters should read it.

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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 9:19 am

Watch it, Neil Armstrong is my Great Uncle, and yes, he landed on the moon, as I recall, the FIRST. So, yes he landed on the moon.
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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 9:32 am

I doubt it too

Well good for you. Why do you doubt it?
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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 10:07 am

As someone who watched ALL of the historic Apollo landings and expeditions televised on TV, with coverage stretching over days, I've no doubt whatsoever the U.S. put astronauts on the moon. You couldn't fake all that and have all the independent news organizations in on the conspiracy. Besides, astronomical observatories also tracked the trajectories of the Apollo spacecraft from earth orbit through translunar insertion all the way to the moon and back. With all those people looking, you couldn't say you were sending a ship to the moon but not do so without it being obvious. Maybe one can't absolutely prove there were astronauts on board but the ships did go there. And if all those shots of the astronauts on the linar surface were faked, ala the movie, "Capricorn One", then it was the most brilliant special effects job ever, far surpassing even Kubrick's "2001". I can see how people born after that time might be skeptical, particularly due to these folks that write books and produce programs about it being a hoax. But those history twisters have but one thing on their mind: $$$! If you lived through that time and followed it as fervently as I did, you would believe. And I assure you all, IT WAS REAL!!!
 
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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 10:12 am

Yes we have landed on the moon, and in your face Russia!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 10:42 am

The people that claim that are the same nuts that said NASA blew up Challenger on purpose.
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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 11:26 am

Well, I work for NASA, and used to be stationed at the Johnson Space Center in Houston, where a lot of the personnel and equipment still around are located. If I were to ignore the mountains of other evidence that man went to the moon, my 6.5 years at JSC convinced me we could and did.

That's the most I could add to this discussion... not much really. $0.02.

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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 1:17 pm

Hamsters landed on the moon first....
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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 2:43 pm

I'm an Apollo nut, and have read all the books in print written by or about the astronauts and the people that led the effort on the ground, like Chris Kraft, Bob Gilruth, Von Braun, Tom Kelly, Max Faget and others. Apollo was developed and performed in full public view all the way, with reporters and camera around every corner, as opposed to the Soviet effort, where nobody knew there was a launch until it was already over. There were 400,000 people involved in Apollo, and not one person, in 30 years, has ever put out a substantially different story. There is no doubt, the moonlandings happened, and the books that are available, written by people who were there, would give you an amazing story of how they did it, step by step.

The reason why nobody went back there afterwards was a result of the reason why we went in the first place. Kennedy called for a crash program to get to the moon and back within 9 years. Apollo accomplished the mission, but with single-minded purpose. Get there, and come back. The only thing that came back to earth out of the entire nearly 400-foot Saturn V stack was the tiny command module. Extremely inefficient and wasteful. But it worked, and served the purpose for which it was designed within the timeframe alloted by Kennedy.

NASA actually did not want the job. NASA wanted a slower but steadier approach, first developing a space station, then a space shuttle to go back and forth between the earth and the station, and the station to be used as a base from which to send missions to the moon using far larger vehicles than what was possible from a single Saturn V launch from earth. Apollo was a shortchut to bypass the station and the shuttle.

After Apollo came Skylab, and the Space Shuttle was then designed to shuttle between the Earth and Skylab, at least to start with. But the shuttle fell behind schedule, and Skylab fell back to Earth in 1979, so the Shuttle had no place to shuttle back and forth between. Finally with the ISS, it has a job for which it was originally designed (and was proposed by NASA back in 1960-61).

The problem with ISS is that it is a mish-mash of parts from everywhere, and has a difficult time simply staying in one piece. If man wants to go to Mars, it would require a far larger earth-launched vehicle than even the Saturn V, or you could make numerous smaller lauches (using Shuttles) and assemple the pieces at the station (Earth Orbit Rendezvous). But this assumes that the station is more than some floundering space whale, but is a place where there are workshops, maintainance and repair facilities, research and testing labs, etc. I.E., we are talking about a space station far more advanced than ISS.

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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 3:51 pm

Cfalk, a manned Mars launch could be done on a smaller rocket platform if it were done in several phases. I recall reading one plan where unmanned rockets would deploy various modules to Mars. A small, manned ship is launched with enough fuel for a round trip, only containing the astronauts and supplies needed to keep them alive in space for the 6-9 months.
 
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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 4:00 pm

Cfalk, a manned Mars launch could be done on a smaller rocket platform if it were done in several phases.

That's right. I was refering to an all-up launch of everything needed for the trip on a single vehicle - as in the Apollo-Saturn combo. A similar all-up combo for Mars would be far, far bigger, which might simply not be possible. We could not even build a Saturn V today - some ass in the late 70's ordered the blueprints destroyed. You would have to reverse-engineer it from the Apollo 18 and 19 Saturns that are at Houston and the Cape. Nothing of similar power has ever been built since.

Earth Orbit Rendezvous or Mars Orbit Rendezvous would be the only practical means to do it.

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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 6:48 pm

But why would the US invest billions in a project that would have never materialized.

Hehe... ahh, you're not American... explains it. The U.S. invests billions upon billions of dollars in useless programs. There's a nightly feature on a news channel here called "The Fleecing of America." Ever heard of Missile Defense, a.k.a. the Star Wars project? I could go on...



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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sat Mar 13, 2004 8:14 pm

It will one day be settled. One day, 10, 20, 100, or 10,000 years from now, someone will return to the Sea of Tranquility, the Ocean of Storms, Hadley Rill, Fra Mauro, Descartes Highlands, and Taurus-Litrow and find the descent stages of six LMs, and a few moon buggies, and assorted other stuff.

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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 12:33 am

Currently there is a new telescope under construction at the European ESA Southern Hemisphere observatory in Chile. Acc. to what I´ve head, once ready for use, it will have enough resolution to be able to pick up the traces left by the astronauts on the moon. Maybe not the footprints, but definitely the landing stages of the landers and the equipment left. This will sort it out once and for all and should prove it to the most sceptical person.

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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 12:44 am

>>>........it leaves us asking why hasn't there been another mission to the Moon in these modern times?<<<

Simply put, money, funding. Which is why the Apollo series was cut short even back then.

A program as expensive as Apollo requires public backing. Once it became old hat after Apollo 12, funding dried up.


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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:12 am

Ive read convincing articles (not by the stupid conspiracy theorists) on why NASA hasn't been back to the moon. Many people believe that the astronauts had encounters with other entities on the moon who warned them never to return. It is believed that because of the aforementioned reason, the latter Apollo missions were rushed, and the whole moon-landing-project quickly swept aside.

I know it sounds stupid and hard to picture Neil and Buzz "talking" to "aliens" but there is tonnes and tonnes of information that has never been released to the public, and for all we know there could be anything on the other side of the moon. I suppose in the end, the only people that know the whole truth and everything that occured during those missions, be it a hoax or encounters with E.T's, are the astronauts themselves.

Just my $14.53  Smile

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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:37 am

Ive read convincing articles (not by the stupid conspiracy theorists) on why NASA hasn't been back to the moon. Many people believe that the astronauts had encounters with other entities on the moon who warned them never to return. It is believed that because of the aforementioned reason, the latter Apollo missions were rushed, and the whole moon-landing-project quickly swept aside.

HOW DID YOU FIND OUT ABOUT.....

I mean  Smile no no no...

We at NASA never found anything like that during our lunar Program.

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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:45 am



There is no wind on the moon, yet the flag is waving. What's up with that?  Confused

I'm not saying we didn't land on the moon, but I'm also not saying that we did.

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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:54 am

Gee, Go4EVA, Im sure you're the bloke at NASA that knows everything and is told everything. I wouldnt be surprised now if you told me that you know what goes on at Area51.

Also, I knew it wouldn't be long until someone would laugh at what I wrote. Afterall, theres plenty of people who believe only what ther're told by the media and are afraid to look at things in a different perspective.

FYI Go4Eva, many Soviet cosmonauts died during Russia's race for the moon, but most of it was kept quiet. What makes you think that the USA is different than the USSR in that perspective, Im dead certain that a lot of information from the lunar missions has been kept from the public.

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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:56 am

There is no wind on the moon, yet the flag is waving. What's up with that?

There is a wire along the top edge that holds the flag out. Pretty low-tech stuff.

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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 2:03 am

I do believe that we went to the moon, but what's the explanation for the alleged "fake" photos??? Again, I'm not saying that it's a conspiracy, but I am saying that it's possible. The U.S. has a mandate to "get the moon" no matter what; we needed to for our own phyche.

So is it not possible to at least entertain the notion that, realizing that this mandate may be impossible given the constraints we were working under, an extraordinary hoax was orchastrated?? You wouldn't need all the independent news organizations in on it, only the select few individuals who were putting it on. The ultimate landing was recorded using a camera under NASA's control, so could this have not happened in a studio, under the strictest secrecy with no paper trail? Even if you worked for NASA, you wouldn't necessarily know about it. Even if you were in mission control working the flight, the whole mission could have been "simulated" by upper management, and you'd never know it. The fact you watched it on TV ultimately proves nothing.

Why haven't we been to the moon during my entire lifetime? Well, in simple terms it comes down to money. It's very expensive, and if we've already "been there / done that", what's the purpose of going back?

For personal reasons, I do hope that we eventually go back, and also to Mars. But is there ever a way to prove that these missions won't be hoaxes? Probably not. Technology makes it so easy to fake anything; just consider what you can do with a computer program as simple as Photoshop. I guess it just comes down to trust.
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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 2:10 am

Flyingbroncos05:

You take great delight in telling people this, so I'm going to take great delight in telling you:

1. Check it out on Google first.

2. Read the link that I posted above.

Haha!
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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 2:14 am

There is no wind on the moon, yet the flag is waving. What's up with that?

Maybe it's just stiff and crinkly. That would explain it.

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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 2:21 am

Of course we have been to the moon, as documented, however there is a conspiracy of omital of published information that Bartiniman suggests.

From the very first grainy photo of the far side of the moon taken from the Russian Luna 3 Mission in 1959 to subsequent reveals from Russian Zond and NASA Appollo missions (via further photograhic and electronic probe of the far side), it was suspected that the moon is, indeed, not round but shaped like a biscuit. More sophisticated far side mapping byfrom Apollo 15 suggested that this very flat far side was abruptly peppered by straight, vertical walls of peaks and valleys laid out in geometric shapes suggesting only some sort of intellegence could have been responsible. Not wanting to create a furor, these facts were publicly witheld, but a very intense geo-mapping far side plan was initiated for the Appollo 16 mission in April of 1972. This stage of the "secret" plan was aborted as engine troubles on the return vehicle forced the astronauts to concentrate on the mechanics of firing a burn on the far side to return to earth. There was no time for future mapping.

Then, in Dec, 1972, Pilot Harrison Schmidt (a professional geologist) was chosen to map while Apollo 17 sucessfully landed at Taurus-Littrow. While mapping, he received radio transmissions from one of the highest peaks on the far side. The received information was immediately non-readible (sort of like a loosely translated foreign languages spoken in multiple dialects, or accents if you will, but was eventually translated as a left-behind recording that transmitted only when a foreign body approached or overflew in a controlled
manner (read: "visitors"; read: "us").

Subsequent secret study of the recordings reveals that the moon was, indeed inhabited by beings on the far side. Because of their allergy to extended exposure to sunlight, these early explorers had to vacate their occupation of the earth shortly after their arrival to plant foodstuffs (there really have been no dinosaurs on earth; these aliens "planted" these bones because in their world, that's how they grow food). The far side was eventually abandoned after their kind discovered a more inhabitable "farm", so to speak.

Budget money was running tight, and the revealing of possible contact to get the public to support more tax dollars for further trips to the moon was almost immediately taken off the table for fear of panic. Regards...Jack
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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 2:57 am

To everyone that discounts anyone that questions whether we ever landed on the moon, all I ask is for a minute have an open mind and take a look at the video on this site. You are more than welcome to form any opinion you wish afterward.
http://www.moontruth.com/

(for those too lazy to read through the conspiracy theory, here is a direct link to the video itself: http://www.moontruth.com/clips/moontruth.mpg )
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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 3:06 am

Gee, Go4EVA, Im sure you're the bloke at NASA that knows everything and is told everything. I wouldnt be surprised now if you told me that you know what goes on at Area51.

There is no Area51.
 
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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 3:08 am

Lol!!

That video is hilarious. You might want to look at the link at the BOTTOM of the page that says "And click here to discover that the above is all bullshit".

http://www.moontruth.com/full.htm

Lol!!
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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 3:54 am

The conspiracy theorists make some strong points, but one source you cannot discount is the Soviets. The Soviets were watching carefully, and if they of all people found out it was fake, they would have pounced on the opportunity to discredit the US as much as possible. It would have been a massive propaganda coup for the Soviets if the US was caught with it's pants down in the heat of the cold war.
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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:52 am

777236ER,

 Innocent


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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:06 am

Two weeks ago I met Gene Cernan of Apollo 17.

Call me naive, but HE'S pretty goddamn certain he walked on the moon.
 
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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 7:29 am

How bout the Russians? I find it hard to believe they never landed a Cosmonaut on the moon, regardless if they were number two or not. They couldn't take the United States word on what was there  Big grin


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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 8:36 am

P.S. "Friend", I come from a land down under. Approximately 16 hours into the future from where you live.

Ah yes...

The Australian Space Agency is quite far ahead of NASA. We try to keep up, but our programs are paltry compared to your Government's.

Our spending, governmental committment, and level of national interest pale in comparision to those of your country.

Not only that, but NASA has no infrastructure, really, to support any sizable kind of space program.

The best we can hope for is to watch Australia charge into the future and wave, as we cough on your dust.

We at NASA hang our collective head in shame...
 
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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:58 pm

RockyRacoon,

The Russians had 2 problems that they simply could not figure out in time to land on the moon, although they were pretty close to attempting a manned Soyuz around the moon, like Apollo 8.

They never developed a rocket engine like the F-1, forcing them to depend on huge clusters of smaller rockets that kept blowing up the Nova, the Russian equivalent of the Saturn V.

Secondly they had a very difficult time mastering the art of orbital rendezvous, probably due to their lack of computers, relative to the Americans.

On top of that, The Soyuz program (which was to go to the moon with a one-man lunar module) got off to a terrible start, with the death of the first crew. This was compounded by the death of Sergei Koralev in 1964, who was the mastermind behind the program. Had he lived, maybe it would have been more of a race.

During the Apollo missions, the Soviets tracked the missions by radar and telescope. They even cooperated with NASA with their Luna probes around the moon at the same time as some of the missions. The soviets definately confirmed Apollo's achievements.

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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 2:41 pm

I remember a few years back, there was a special on FOX regarding the theories behind sci-fi experts, and landing on the moon. While I think that most of what they were saying was a crock of shit, they had some fairly good arguments wedged in there. The one that stands out in my mind was about the parts of the mission that they filmed, and how the "experts" believe it was filmed in a studio, because the moon has no gravity, yet the flag was waving, as if there was wind. Also, how the scenery appeared to be the same in multiple shots from different angles (eg. rock in the same place, and the slope was the same). But nevertheless, it's really a toss up, whether we did or did not land on the moon. Some very good arguments can be tossed in on either side. The lack of time between 1969 and now has made me also wonder why we didn't go back if the mission was so successful.
 
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RE: Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 2:42 pm

By the way, most of the photos which are shown on the conspiracy web sites which supposedly show the same landmarkes in different places, are fake. I own a copy of FULL MOON, which is an amazing picture book using pictures taken by the astronauts using their large-format Hasselblads, and reprinted using the original negatives. The detail is absolutely amazing. They have also scanned all that film and they are available here. http://images.jsc.nasa.gov/luceneweb/browse.jsp

There is another site that I remember visiting where those scans and a lot more (practically every frame they shot, I think) are scanned at even higher resolution, like 3000-4000 pixels wide each. I visited it last year, but can't remember where it was. It was some official NASA site.

The point is that many of those "evidence pictures" are themselves faked, and of course are shown very small so that you have a hard time seeing the crop lines.

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