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Going To The US - Should I Shave?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 12:05 am

I am facing a dillemma right now : I am going on holidays to the US next week, and haven't shaved for a few days (6 so far today). I am conducting this stupid little experiment to see how long I can do without shaving (like those who see how long they can do without showering  Wink/being sarcastic but in a cleaner way. )

Problem is : would I have any problem going through TSA if I look like an unshaved terrorist ? In a better way to put it : should I shave before going there ?

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RE: Going To The US - Should I Shave?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 12:28 am

Depends on what part of your body tou want to shave Big grin

Do you look like Saddam or OBL when unshaved?
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RE: Going To The US - Should I Shave?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 12:40 am

You'll be fine if you travel on your Elbonian passport. Bearded Elbonians face no entry restrictions.
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RE: Going To The US - Should I Shave?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 12:44 am

I'm starting to look like Saddam, as a matter of fact. But since the real one has already been arrested...

The problem is I don't have an Elbonian passport, even though I live there. The only passport I have is unfortunately a French one.

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RE: Going To The US - Should I Shave?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:00 am

i'd say shave. it's not that hard a thing to do and it might help you avoid problems with customs on the way in, and stupid TSA on the way out.
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RE: Going To The US - Should I Shave?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:03 am

Why don't you start your experiment after you return from holidays? ... Or, is that too simple an answer?
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RE: Going To The US - Should I Shave?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:04 am

Shaving? My god, what a pagan custom. I stopped scraping my face with a steel blade almost 28 years ago. Sure makes mornings easier. Shampoo the hair, shampoo the face, towel dry, brush hair, brush face, out the door.

I would never consider going back to shaving.

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RE: Going To The US - Should I Shave?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:06 am

Rhaa, let's remind ourselves that Mohammed Atta was clean-shaven.

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RE: Going To The US - Should I Shave?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:09 am

If it's just stubble, I doubt it'll matter.


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RE: Going To The US - Should I Shave?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:09 am

Rhaa, let's remind ourselves that Mohammed Atta was clean-shaven.

Somehow, I don't really see myself saying that to the TSA !

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RE: Going To The US - Should I Shave?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:26 am

A Frenchman mentioning a terrorist?!

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Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:31 am

I suggest you don't shave and you shout "Long live Al Quaida" in the plane.

It will be the start of an interesting experiment which might end in a few years with a good knowledge of US jails.  Big grin
 
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RE: Going To The US - Should I Shave?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:31 am

If you do shave, the best thing you might do to look "friendly" is actually leave about 3" of sideburns (to the bottom of earlobes) on each side of your face. This is merely a suggestion, but I don't know of too many terrorists who look like that. Think Dwayne Johnson, i.e. The Rock ( Confused).
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RE: Going To The US - Should I Shave?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:38 am

I'd suggest shaving, personally. I know the 9/11 hijackers were clean-shaven, but all those images of UBL on TV instill a fear in the American people of Middle Eastern-looking people with beards. The more "clean cut" and "American" you look, the less problems you'll probably have. The immigration officers probably have enough sense to not single you out for that reason alone, but the average Joe on the street might be another story. I know, it's sad that I'm writing this, because I wish we weren't that way, but I believe it's the truth, from my perspective.
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RE: Going To The US - Should I Shave?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:49 am

Okay, just to clarify, I am not middle Eastern looking. If you want to see what I look like, here is a picture where you can see me :


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The beard was not very apparent that day...

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RE: Going To The US - Should I Shave?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:50 am

You should shave so you don't look like the typical "dirty Frenchman".  Wink/being sarcastic
 
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RE: Going To The US - Should I Shave?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:54 am

Hey, one could wear a beard and still look clean ! Abraham Lincoln, for instance.

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Sun Mar 14, 2004 2:00 am

Hey, one could wear a beard and still look clean ! Abraham Lincoln, for instance.

Was he a terrorist ??  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: Going To The US - Should I Shave?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 2:31 am

The only problem : they may tell you that you are not looking the same as in your passport, and shave you off !!

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RE: Going To The US - Should I Shave?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:41 am

Just don't be the typical arrogant French guy... Big grin
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RE: Going To The US - Should I Shave?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 5:57 am

What you inferior American ?  Wink/being sarcastic

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RE: Going To The US - Should I Shave?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:13 am

This thread really made my day!  Big thumbs up

The only problem : they may tell you that you are not looking the same

707CMF could draw a beard on the photo. If he does it properly, no one will notice.
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RE: Going To The US - Should I Shave?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 7:58 am

Honestly, I wouldn't worry about it. There are enough Americans with scruffy beards that I really don't think the TSA or Customs will care. If you had a scruffy beard AND were wearing a skullcap AND were waving a Saudi passport in one hand and a Koran in the other, maybe that would get their attention.  Smile But I don't think a beard in itself will cause any problems.

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RE: Going To The US - Should I Shave?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 8:19 am

Want to have some fun? Carry a folding straight razor! Tell TSA you plan to shave on the plane.

Seriously, I think I would try to look as much as possible like the picture on my passport. Unless, of course, it is a black-and-white picture.

I'll resist the boorish American comment that if you want to persuade them that you really are French you should stop showering. (Oops, I was going to resist that.)

Enjoy your visit. I apologize for the bread. Enjoy some local wine, especially if you go to California.
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RE: Going To The US - Should I Shave?

Sun Mar 14, 2004 8:46 am


Well, if you want to get laid, then you better shave.
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