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Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Fri Mar 19, 2004 8:12 am

The main argument many have for voting for Bush is that he's tough on terrorists and he's the best choice for a good national security. However, he's the one the terrorists want come November. Come on, America! Wake up and smell the coffee! Bush has totally undermined America's position in the world community and chipped away at our security.

http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=478050§ion=news

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Purported al Qaeda letter calls truce in Spain
Wed March 17, 2004 04:59 PM ET

By Opheera McDoom
CAIRO (Reuters) - A group claiming to have links with al Qaeda says it is calling a truce in its Spanish operations to see if the new Madrid government would withdraw its troops from Iraq, a pan-Arab newspaper says.

In a statement sent to the Arabic language daily al-Hayat, the Abu Hafs al-Masri Brigades, which claimed responsibility for the Madrid bombings that killed 201 people, also urged its European units to stop all operations.

"Because of this decision, the leadership has decided to stop all operations within the Spanish territories... until we know the intentions of the new government that has promised to withdraw Spanish troops from Iraq," the statement said.

"And we repeat this to all the brigades present in European lands: Stop all operations."

Scepticism has greeted previous claims of responsibility by the group for attacks in Turkey and Iraq. U.S. officials say its links with Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network are unclear.

An unrelated videotape of a man describing himself as al Qaeda's European military spokesman also claimed responsibility for the Madrid bombing, saying it was in retaliation for outgoing Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar's domestically-unpopular support for the U.S.-led Iraq war.

In a shock election result three days after the Madrid bombs, Spain voted in the Socialist party, which has since said it will probably withdraw its troops from Iraq.

"The Spanish people... chose peace by choosing the party that was against the alliance with America," the statement said.

WE WANT BUSH TO WIN

The statement said it supported U.S. President George W. Bush in his reelection campaign, and would prefer him to win in November rather than the Democratic candidate John Kerry, as it was not possible to find a leader "more foolish than you (Bush), who deals with matters by force rather than with wisdom."

In comments addressed to Bush, the group said:

"Kerry will kill our nation while it sleeps because he and the Democrats have the cunning to embellish blasphemy and present it to the Arab and Muslim nation as civilisation."

"Because of this we desire you (Bush) to be elected."

The group said its cells were ready for another attack and time was running out for allies of the United States.

"Whose turn is it next? Will it be Japan or America, or Italy, Britain or Oslo or Australia?" the statement said, adding Pakistan and Saudi Arabia were also targets.

The group is named after Muhammed Atef, also known as Abu Hafs, a close bin Laden aide killed in the U.S.-led war in Afghanistan.
 
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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Fri Mar 19, 2004 8:24 am

This doesn't suprise me. George W Bush and his people are cut from the same cloth as these Islamic terrorist groups. The Bush gang is just a Christian version.
Isn't this supposed to be how it all plays out in the Bible in the end?




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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Fri Mar 19, 2004 8:27 am

"Come on, America! Wake up and smell the coffee! Bush has totally undermined America's position in the world community and chipped away at our security."

I see you got the slogan part covered, now all we need is some weed and we've got ourselves a peace rally!  Smokin cool

Yup, nothing like saving the rain forest to kick off the rally season.


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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Fri Mar 19, 2004 8:29 am

Why is there an AK-74 under the U.S. Dollar in the picture? Shouldn't it be an M-16 instead?

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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Fri Mar 19, 2004 8:39 am

Wow, saying that President Bush is cut from the same cloth as terrorists that kill innocent people by strapping bombs to themselves or flying planes into buildings. That's pretty dang low my friend. In fact that's probably the single most outlandish thing I've seen said on these forums. For some reason I don't see any Christians strapping c4 to themselves and blowing up Motel 6's.
 
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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Fri Mar 19, 2004 8:43 am

Phxairfan:
For some reason I don't see any Christians strapping c4 to themselves and blowing up Motel 6's.

True but we do have God on our side to kill the Arabs right?  Yeah sure
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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Fri Mar 19, 2004 8:46 am

For some reason I don't see any Christians strapping c4 to themselves and blowing up Motel 6's.


No, just abortion clinics.
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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Fri Mar 19, 2004 9:08 am

"Because of this decision, the leadership has decided to stop all operations within the Spanish territories... until we know the intentions of the new government that has promised to withdraw Spanish troops from Iraq," the statement said.

Hmm...Does the name Neville Chaimberlain and the word 'appeasement' come to mind?? Come on people! The terrorists are winning and if we don't stand up for what is right, we will be a bunch of cowards under Osamma's thumb (if not dead).

And while I am frustrated with the situation in Iraq today, I still support Bush because he is trying to do the right thing. It is too easy for me, or for anyone out there to be and armchair quarterback and be overly critical of the efforts made to rebuild an entire country especially when you and I have never been over there and experienced the dire need for order in a community where its hard to tell between those who support you and those who want to kill you (and I'm not talking about race).

Stand up for what is right, or else you will fall for what is wrong.



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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Fri Mar 19, 2004 9:13 am

Why is there an AK-74 under the U.S. Dollar in the picture? Shouldn't it be an M-16 instead?

I was just gunna post those exact words. What gives, man?

No, just abortion clinics.

Those aren't christians, those are just friggen pshycos who think they're christians.
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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Fri Mar 19, 2004 9:14 am

Yeah, Dubya is trying to do the right thing, but remember the road to Hell was paved with good intentions.

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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Fri Mar 19, 2004 9:24 am

Guys, I wish you would read some history!

What Neville Chamberlain was doing with his appeasement plitics was to gain time.In both Britain and France, as well as the US the military became quite unpopular after the horrors of WW1 and were greatly reduced. from 1933 Germany on the other hand rearmed and built up it´s forces,some of it secretly. The democratic countries only realised this during the Spanish Civil War, when they saw German and Italian troops in action. They were esp. shocked by the German Luftwaffe. From about 1937 Britain had a rearmament programme running, Hurricanes and Spitfires were ordered off the drawing board, but didn´t arrive fast enough. Still in 1940 during the battle of Britain the situation was shaky. Chamberlain knew in 1938 that his military wouldn´t stand a chance against the Wehrmacht.

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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Fri Mar 19, 2004 10:21 am

No this not how it plays out in the bible. In the end times there will be wars and teh rummors of wars. There will be an attack on Israel, by a someone tha tlies to the north of the country at least as most biblical schoplars believe. As far as Christians blowing up genocide clinics. Those people are on the fringe are not supported by ANY mainline denomination that I am aware of. Most churches condem such actions as being sinful. Protesting and educating people is the way the vast majority of Chrisitans handle the mass genocide of the unborn. I just love how some of you choose not to even ask someone about Christianity rather you just form an opinion based on extremist actions.

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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Fri Mar 19, 2004 10:40 am

"I just love how some of you choose not to even ask someone about Christianity rather you just form an opinion based on extremist actions."

You know the situation is bad when a supposedely mainstream Christian calls abortion clinics "genocide clinics". Anyhoo TYSGoVols, you seem knowlegeable on the subject of abortion and Christianity, so here are two questions for you:

1. How many abortions are performed in the U.S. a year (on average)?

2. How many of these victims of genocide are you willing and able to accomodate, love and raise in your own household in place of their biological parents?


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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Fri Mar 19, 2004 10:47 am

...and the self proclaimed 'Biblical experts' here failed to acknowledge that the terrorist strapping bombs to themselves are also a "fringe" group that doesn't represent Islam accuratly.  Insane
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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Fri Mar 19, 2004 11:00 am

My own home happens to be a dorm room and per university of Tennessee rules cannot be occupied by a non-student. now my samrt alek moment is over. We have destroyed I believe teh last figure that I heard was about 14,000,000 human lives through the mass genocide. Yes it is genocide.

As to answer you other question these excerpts were taken from



What about the population boom? We can hardly feed the people of the world now!

True, the population of the world is growing, but population is not much of a problem in the United States. With a birth every 8 seconds and a death every 11 seconds, the U.S. population is growing at less than one percent per year. (www.census.gov)

How many couples are waiting?

There are about two million couples waiting. Furthermore, each of these couples would want two or three, if available. Many will take hard-to-place children with special needs. Bachrach et al., "On the Path to Adoption"

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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Fri Mar 19, 2004 11:40 am

I agree with this thread title, but not exactly for the reason mentioned by the terrorist leader.

Al-Qaida needs Bush the same way, if you will, the Mafia needs the police and the police needs the Mafia. It's a symbiosis: they need each other to exist. One's existence depends on the other. Without the Mafia or mobs or gangsters, a police force would be useless. Without a police force, the world would be out of control and the criminals would have a hard time having any king of meaningful activity because of the anarchy that would result.

Bush needs Al-Qaida because it gives him a goal, an objective, a target, a political platform. Al-Qaida needs Bush as a representation of all evil the Western world could provide and to supply them with other desperate souls: each time Bush kills an Arab, five are lining-up to become human bombs.

If I was OBL, I'd pray for a Bush re-election.
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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Fri Mar 19, 2004 11:45 am

I can't wait for John Kerry to become President!
I am sick of this drama between these two rich oil families.
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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:10 pm

..."I am sick of this drama between these two rich oil families."...

My my Superfly.. What on earth are you ensuing here?  Big grin
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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:18 pm

well i was about to post how much i agree with the topic etc, but thanks to qb001 i do not have to type all the stuff, since his police and mafia analogy and other arguments kind of hit the nail on the head.
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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:25 pm

Tired old tripe. Why not display the entire wish list of these people beginning with: extermination or conversion of kafir (non-Muslims), extermination of apostates (Shia and Sufi), and so on...

No one needs al-Qaeda but al-Qaeda. Bush does not need an al-Qaeda. He campaigned on a platform that focused almost exclusively on US domestic issues.
 
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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:34 pm

Yeah Superfly, I'm all too familiar to this type of info about our "blessed" President. The guy can do no wrong, eh?  Big thumbs up
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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:43 pm

"He campaigned on a platform that focused almost exclusively on US domestic issues."

and what about the upcoming election?
did you already forget the 9/11 pictures in his ads? and his emphasis on the war on terror?
without al-quaeda and 9-11 bush would not have gotten reelected due to the simple fact that enron and all the other scandals that he was involved in would have gotten coverage.
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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Fri Mar 19, 2004 1:24 pm

without al-quaeda and 9-11 bush would not have gotten reelected

Hey, hold on a bit. He's not reelected yet! And hopefully won't be.

And I agree with qb001 that al-Qaeda needs Bush just as Bush needs them. If there wasn't a bad guy to go after and a war to hide behind when the questions about why the defecit is the way is come up, Bush would have his feet to the fire right about now. However, I think al-Qaeda can survive without Bush better than the other way around.

Cheers,

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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Fri Mar 19, 2004 2:12 pm

oh yes my bad, what i wanted to say is chance at getting reelected  Smile
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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Fri Mar 19, 2004 2:41 pm

and the daily Bush-bash from the same old fools is underway again...

Of course the terrorists SAY they want Bush to win the elections.
It's simple psychology. Tell the public you want Bush to win knowing the public hates you and the public will vote for Kerry who is likely to give in to them just like his Spanish fellow socialists did.
Kerry will be even weaker towards terrorism than was Billy "the Kid" Clinton who deliberately did NOT go after Al Qaeda and bin Laden (despite having his location pinpointed) after the US embassy attacks because that could expose some of his friends and might make some people angry.

Kerry might even go further and help Al Qaeda take control back over Afghanistan and Iraq (after all, the US took it away from Al Qaeda illegally right?) and help the PLO destroy Israel and exterminate the Jews once and for all.
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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Fri Mar 19, 2004 10:50 pm

Kerry might even go further and help Al Qaeda take control back over Afghanistan and Iraq (after all, the US took it away from Al Qaeda illegally right?) and help the PLO destroy Israel and exterminate the Jews once and for all.

Geee Jwenting, even fellow Republican senators, such as McCain, have a better opinion about Kerry on national security.

I wish I could invite you to a scotch or something; I think you need to relax a bit...

This week it was announced that the US has hit a new record in trading deficit, the budget deficit is at record height, education is a mess, employment is weak, and don't get me started on healthcare...

Thanks to his total lack of ability on the diplomatic front, Bush managed to turn the biggest wave of sympathy for the US, after 9/11, into the biggest wave of anti-Americanism ever saw.

Bush needs an Al-Qaida attack real bad: that's his only chance.

Edited note: The world is still waiting to see those WMD in Iraq. Until further notice, Bush lied.

[Edited 2004-03-19 15:01:53]
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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Sat Mar 20, 2004 1:27 am

In the words of John Kerry, "Bush is running on national security because he doesn't have anything else to run on."
 
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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Sat Mar 20, 2004 5:59 am

"Al-Qaida needs Bush the same way, if you will, the Mafia needs the police and the police needs the Mafia. It's a symbiosis: they need each other to exist."

Beautifully said. Now, if you replace the word "Bush" with "America", it might even have some truth to it.


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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Sat Mar 20, 2004 11:00 am

Bush, Blair and the rest did not lie...get over it. There are still WMD that remain unaccounted for. There is a difference between acting on incorrect intelligence and lying. At least among rational minds.

No one needs an al Qaeda attack. This uber-cynical crap.
 
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Sat Mar 20, 2004 11:15 am

One of the main scare arguments to bully the population into the war was the "nucular" connection to Nigeria which both Blair and Bush at that time knew to be nonexistent. Cheney even was briefed by the CIA to that effect and still insisted publicly that it was real.

Ergo: They lied.

Urgent threat? Nope.
Immediate need to kick out the UN inspectors and attack instead? Nope.
UN inspectors being ineffective and naive? Nope. They were right on the money.

Okay, it is embarrassing to have fallen for that; But it´s only more embarrassing to pretend even now that it wasn´t a lie in the first place!  Insane
 
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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Sat Mar 20, 2004 11:49 am

Aww, C'mon Klaus. It wasn't a lie. There is WMD, we just haven found them yet!  Laugh out loud

'Operation Iraqi Freedom'.. What a joke. The good old US of A could've put all that money to good use right here within our own borders..  Pissed
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MD11LuxuryLinr

Sat Mar 20, 2004 12:28 pm

MD11LuxuryLinr: Aww, C'mon Klaus. It wasn't a lie. There is WMD, we just haven found them yet!

Hmyeah... If only our magical mirror was working properly... those seven dwarves have always been a suspicious bunch... Probably in league with the terrorists! That girl Snow White is certainly held hostage as well. Damn! If we don´t attack now who knows what they´ll do to us next!!!  Nuts
 
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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Sat Mar 20, 2004 12:41 pm

Ok polititians are all crooks lets face it. Now has come the time to chose the next one, and literally we are choosing the LESSER of the two evils, same as it always is.

Kerry: 2 faced, says one thing, and for the record behind closed doors does another. Just as long as the American public hears what they want to hear, Kerry will deliver and then do the complete opposite.

Bush: At least we know what were dealing with. Bush is more straight forward and is not afraid to make enemies if his decision infuriates others. Kerry runs scared and feeds the public bull.

Face, the united states is the world's police force. We are the largest country that can back itself up in many different regions of the world and not be outstretched as to be a danger to the motherland. Nobody else has the cash flow to do what we are doing.

As far as Kerry or anybody else wanting U.N. approval. GIVE ME A BREAK!!! The United Nations is a farce! The UN couldn't back itself up let alone any other country. All the countries that belong to the UN hate US except for a select few if they last. All the other members are poor with weak gov'ts that can be easily persuaded by AL-Qaida and other terrorist organizations, Spain as an example. They get bombed before an election and AMAZINGLY they pull out of Iraq, the terrorists win. Spain has paved the way for terrorists everywhere to get what they want because nobody wants to fight what is wrong!!!!!
I'm not saying that we go obliterate the middle east, that won't solve anything. There are many good people in those countries that don't want to live with or around terrorist's and their radical ideas and rules.

9-11 was the calling for us to get rid of this evil menance (terrorists). People, humans are more civilized than this, we don't need terrorists to rule the world!! That's why we need to stand up to this threat and get rid of it.

As far as Kerry for office, he is no different then the new gov't of Spain!! EAGER to please Al-Qaida and other terrorists with there demands and handing over the US of A as there training ground and prize.

GO BUSH!!!! and defeat this damn threat that has ruined our lives since 9-11, and that does not need to exist is this world.

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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Sat Mar 20, 2004 8:31 pm

LOL Superfly you crack me up. It is sad that people seem so willing to take what they are told without question.
It reminds me of 'The Idiots are taking over' by NOFX.

"It's not the right time to be sober now the idiots are taking over
spreading like a social cancer is there an answer?

Mensa Membership conceding. Tell me why and how are all the stupid people breeding
Watson it's really elementary The industrial revolution has flipped a bitch on evolution
The benevolent and wise are being thwarted, ostracized, What a Bummer
The World keeps getting dummerInsensitivity is standard and faith is being fancied over reason.

Darwin's rolling over in his coffin, cuz the fittest are surving much less often
Now everything seems to be reversing, and it's worsening
Someone flopped a steamer in the Gene Pool
Now angry mob mentality is no longer the exception it's the rule
And I'm starting to feel a lot like Charlton Heston, Stranded on a primate planet
Apes and Orang Utans that ran it to the ground, were generals and the armies who obeyed them
Followers following Fables. Philosophies that enable them to rule without regard
It sounds all too familiar

There's no point for democracy when ignorance is celebrated
Political scientists get the same one vote as some arkansas inbred
Majority rule don't work in mental institutions
Sometimes the smallest softest voices carries the grand biggest solution

So what are we left with, A nation of God fearing Pregnant Nationalists
who feel it's their duty to populate the homeland
Pass on traditions, How to get ahead religions and prosperity via simpleton culture

The Idiots are taking over"
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RE: Terrorists Want Bush To Win

Sun Mar 21, 2004 12:49 am

"In the words of John Kerry, "Bush is running on national security because he doesn't have anything else to run on.""

That is extremely ironic. Although Kerry's campaign ads won't mention this outright, but the only thing that guy is running on (and the only thing that can realistically put him in power) is the fact that he is not George W. Bush. What was that thing about cops and mobsters again?


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