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Disappointing Anti-war Rally

Mon Mar 22, 2004 4:35 am

I went to an anti-war rally in Dallas yesterday, and it was very disappointing. First of all, only about 50 people had gathered at the DART Mockingbird Station for the rally and the subsequent caravan to Crawford (where Bush's ranch is located). I had a poster that said on one side 'Have you hugged your dictator today?' and on the other side 'No War! Unless a Democrat is president.' The fifty people who had gathered were the usual group of anti-war protestors--socialists, anti-Israel extremists, washed-up hippies, disappointed Deaniacs (one woman drove a Mini Cooper in a full professionally done Howard Dean for President livery...I bet she's regretting that decision now), not to mention a large contingent of Hispanics who all wore Cesar Chavez shirts. One of these guys got on the microphone and said that the money should be directed to the plight of the "Mexicans who come to America without immigration papers and only get minimum government services." Fantastic.

Most of the people who saw my signs just shook their head and turned away without saying anything. Although, one woman during her time at the microphone took the time between making jokes about Bush choking on pretzels to acknowledge me as the lone counter-protestor and said that free speech is what America is all about. Later, she came up and hugged me. Great. The speeches made were all making fun of Bush, nothing constructive was offered. It was all rip Bush, this war is about oil, Bush sucks, America's support for Israel is a sham, Bush sucks some more, Bush choked on a pretzel, Bush is a drunk, etc.

Later on, some old guy came up to me and started lecturing me on Iraq. Every argument he had--including America shouldn't have gone after Iraq after their invasion of Kuwait--I shot down. Eventually it got to the point where he was bitching about the fact that Kuwait was annexed by Britain, and the Kuwaiti's weren't "friendly." His friend came up to me and told me I shouldn't be here and that I was supporting the Bush war machine. I asked him where he was when Clinton invaded Somalia and bombed the lights out of Yugoslavia--he simply walked away.

A few minutes later, the hippy bus arrived from Denton. A converted school bus painted in purple, pink, and green, with peace signs and slogans painted all over it. As the hippies and peaceniks left, I stood by the exit of the parking lot with my sign. I counted five middle fingers and a bunch of peace signs. A lot of people drove up to me and echoed my sentiments about the protestors.

All in all, it was pretty dissapointing. Only 50 people--thats pretty sad.
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RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

Mon Mar 22, 2004 4:37 am

Every argument he had--including America shouldn't have gone after Iraq after their invasion of Kuwait--I shot down.

Well don't you just have a huge penis.

What's the point in this post other than to poke fun at people against the war?

And in the past year, has anyone found WMDs in Iraq?
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RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

Mon Mar 22, 2004 4:41 am

The one in NYC did nothing but create enemies by blocking traffic.

When was the last time a protest actually got results?
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RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

Mon Mar 22, 2004 4:43 am

You said you shot down all their arguments, yet you failed to mention what their arguments were and how you shot them down. I'm a little skeptical.

What else ya got?

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RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

Mon Mar 22, 2004 4:43 am

This is showing that the leftist don't have nor didn't have any reason to critize President George W. Bush going into Iraq. Now they are just making up stuff to justify what they are doing, and to tell, it is hilarious. I wonder what would have happened if they were protesting this in Iraq. They would have actually seen the improvements and the torture chambers closed. Anyway, Jcs17, you should have also mentioned to that guy that there were more supporters of this war, than the war in 1991. 44 countries supported us compared to 34 in 91.
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RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

Mon Mar 22, 2004 4:50 am

This is showing that the leftist don't have nor didn't have any reason to critize President George W. Bush going into Iraq.

The fact that no WMDs have been found shows the EVERYONE has reason to critisise GWB for going to war.

End of.
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RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

Mon Mar 22, 2004 5:08 am

Anyway, Jcs17, you should have also mentioned to that guy that there were more supporters of this war, than the war in 1991. 44 countries supported us compared to 34 in 91.

REALLY??????????? There were 44 countries with troops slogging their way to Baghdad and having their soldiers killed in action????? REALLY??????????  Insane

 Yawn It never stops.

Anyway, good for you Jcs17. This is America, and you have every right to do what you did. I may not agree with you, but I will defend your right to demonstrate what YOU believe.

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RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

Mon Mar 22, 2004 5:08 am

Yanks, do us all a favor and pull yourself away from Fox News for five minutes. For the love of [your religious figure here]!!!

This is showing that the leftist don't have nor didn't have any reason to critize President George W. Bush going into Iraq. Now they are just making up stuff to justify what they are doing, and to tell, it is hilarious.

No, what we are "Making Up" is facts. Facts, by definition, can be proven. It has been proven that Dubya lied about WMD's in Iraq. It has been proven by Mr. Hans Blix, the dude looking for the WMD's. It is sad that you can't see that. Pull yourself out of your hole and make intelligent decisions, not the crap that Rush Limbaugh fills your head with.

44 countries supported us compared to 34 in 91.

With more backing out every day, for example Spain, Poland, and South Korea just recently.

Do some research before formulating an opinion, Yanks, don't let yourself be led.

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RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

Mon Mar 22, 2004 6:06 am

Sounds like the typical rent-a-mob. They're not really there to protest the war, that is just the convent excuse. They are there because they hate the United States. Most show up to protest any and everything the U.S. does, especially if a Republican is President. Also, many are the idiots who try and burn down cities every time there is some meeting such as the IMF that they don't like.
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RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

Mon Mar 22, 2004 6:11 am

They are there because they hate the United States.

That's beyond argumentation...

Therefore, B757300, before you go back doing what you do best, that is reading the British tabloids, please enjoy this:
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RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

Mon Mar 22, 2004 6:12 am

They are there because they hate the United States.

And there goes your entire arguement... nice job.  Smile
 
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RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

Mon Mar 22, 2004 6:34 am


I would love to have a real, non-cyberspace, face to face discussion with you. Because I would like to shoot YOUR arguments down.


I would love to have a real, non-cyberspace, face to face discussion with you. Because I would like to shoot YOUR arguments down.


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RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

Mon Mar 22, 2004 6:37 am

If Bush lied so did Clinton, Chirac,and Kerry. By the way there were WMD's there Saddam, Oudai, and Kusai. Two of which were defused and the other is being processed right now. No more torture chambers no more rape rooms no more kurdish gassings. If we bowed down to the UN this man would still be in power.

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RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

Mon Mar 22, 2004 6:39 am

*sigh* Anti-war protestors are a difficult lot to figure out. Despite claiming to know the truth for themselves, they're often led around by the nose by the more liberal media outlets, and fail to look up any facts for themselves or consider a balance of fact - they merely listen to what they like to hear. They seem to have short and selective memories, too.

Few remember the traces of mustard gas and nerve agents which were found in the waters of the Euphrates a few weeks after the war started - evidence, however circumstantial, that chemical weapons were recently dumped into the water upstream.

Fewer remember that even the UN inspectors failed to account for something like 70 tons of VX which magically disappeared. It hasn't been found. Where'd it go?

Iraq made every indication to the international community that they weren't living up to their promises of destroying their WMD programmes, and they made it appear like they had something to hide. Why else make the lives of UN inspectors difficult?

The other example of a nation which destroyed its WMD programme did so in a very open manner. Iraq was no comparison....
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RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

Mon Mar 22, 2004 6:43 am

Maybe you're living a bit too much in the countryside, at other places it looked like a little bit more than 50 people...


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RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

Mon Mar 22, 2004 6:49 am

*sigh* Anti-war protestors are a difficult lot to figure out. Despite claiming to know the truth for themselves, they're often led around by the nose by the more liberal media outlets, and fail to look up any facts for themselves or consider a balance of fact - they merely listen to what they like to hear. They seem to have short and selective memories, too.

Another one I'd like to have a face to face discussion with to show how selective and short the memory is of someone who is against Bush and against his 'war on terror' towards the 'axis of evil'.
 
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RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

Mon Mar 22, 2004 6:58 am

Another one I'd like to have a face to face discussion with to show how selective and short the memory is of someone who is against Bush and against his 'war on terror' towards the 'axis of evil'.

Another one.... referring to me?

Sure, you have my email. Since I'm not in Belgium, it'll have to suffice for a face-to-face......  Big grin
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RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

Mon Mar 22, 2004 7:01 am

If Bush Lied, Then So Did These People:

(Remember, several Senate & House committees were provided with the exact same intelligence that President Bush had. It came directly from the CIA, NSA, etc., not through the White House.)

"When I left office, there was a substantial amount of biological and chemical material unaccounted for." -Bill Clinton on Larry King Live July, 2003

One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." -President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." -President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." -Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." -Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." -Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." -Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." - Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and Senators and including other prominent Democrats, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." -Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." -Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." -Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." -Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." -Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." -Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" -Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." -Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." -Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...." -Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

"What is at stake is how to answer the potential threat Iraq represents with the risk of proliferation of WMD. Baghdad's regime did use such weapons in the past. Today, a number of evidences may lead to think that, over the past four years, in the absence of international inspectors, this country has continued armament programs." -Jacques Chirac, October 16, 2002

"I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out." -Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003

"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal." -John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

"I share the administration's goals in dealing with Iraq and its weapons of mass destruction." -Dick Gephardt in September of 2002

"Over the years, Iraq has worked to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. During 1991 - 1994, despite Iraq's denials, U.N. inspectors discovered and dismantled a large network of nuclear facilities that Iraq was using to develop nuclear weapons. Various reports indicate that Iraq is still actively pursuing nuclear weapons capability. There is no reason to think otherwise. Beyond nuclear weapons, Iraq has actively pursued biological and chemical weapons.U.N. inspectors have said that Iraq's claims about biological weapons is neither credible nor verifiable. In 1986, Iraq used chemical weapons against Iran, and later, against its own Kurdish population. While weapons inspections have been successful in the past, there have been no inspections since the end of 1998. There can be no doubt that Iraq has continued to pursue its goal of obtaining weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Patty (Osama Mama) Murray, October 9, 2002

"Saddam’s existing biological and chemical weapons capabilities pose a very real threat to America, now. Saddam has used chemical weapons before, both against Iraq’s enemies and against his own people. He is working to develop delivery systems like missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles that could bring these deadly weapons against U.S. forces and U.S. facilities in the Middle East." - John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002
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RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

Mon Mar 22, 2004 7:09 am

Racko is correct, here are pictures from a few other places around the world:

250.000 people in Rome/Italy:



30.000 people in Tokio/Japan:



More than 10.000 people in London/UK:



5.000 people in Sydney:



Bangkok/Thailand:



Other places where anti-war demonstrations took place:

  • New York/USA (100.000 people)

  • San Francisco/USA (50.000 people)

  • Ramstein/Germany (2.000 people)

  • Barcelona/Spain (150.000 people)

  • Athens/Greece (10.000 people)

  • Amsterdam/Holland (3.000 people)

  • Paris/France (2.500 people)

  • Cairo/Egypt (1.500 people)

  • Warsaw/Poland (less than 1.000 people)

  • Sofia/Bulgaria (less than 1.000 people)

  • New Delhi/India (less than 1.000 people)

  • Bahrain City/Bahrain (less than 1.000 people)


  • (Source of the information and pictures: http://www.tagesschau.de, especially this page)

    'nuff said about "poor" and "disappointing" anti-war rallies!

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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 7:11 am

    Ooooooooo I like the sign that says "Kill Bush, Blair, Sharon, and Coward."
     
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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 7:13 am

    My father said there was about 40-50 folks at the anti-war rally in Calgary at the University; it was the only protest which made the local news down there. That's not a huge turnout.... but then, Calgary is only a city of a million people.
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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 7:26 am

    Out of a population of about 150,000 Knoxville only managed about 150. I was in San Fransisco during the protesting, all I am saying is thank God I was not in charge. We are talking public endangerment charges obsrtuction of justice charges, littering, I would have hit all 50,000 of them with every charge I could have. I will defend their right to protest but, what I saw was in no way peaceful. Friend of mine were working on a Habitat House, they had stuff thrown at them. I also saw fire trucks and ambulances that could not get through the downtown area. I also saw Police being tied up, yeah I know my plan would have done that too thats why I wasn't in charge, it wasn't a protest it was a mob. Those folks should be ashamed for their actions. You can protest but, there are legal and ethical ways of doing it.

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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 7:49 am

    Thank you kindly, B757300, for taking the time to collate the (almost universal) thoughts at the time. I should imagine that what you have posted won't be thoughtfully considered by those opposed to the Iraq campaign for whatever their own reasons; I should imagine that they will simply revert to quite hackneyed and stereotyped opposing responses whitout any substance.

    In retrospect, The US MAY have very well been mistaken in the Iraq adventure, but for none of the rather silly reasons (IE: "Bush lied", or "it's for the oil") that the ever-increasing number of 'experts without any solutions' that so frequently post on these threads.

    I for one, hail John Kerry's *I voted for the war before I voted against it* point. At least that illustrates that there is manifest confusion or at least indecision in idealogies of people without crystal balls (or, maybe just wanting the gold ring). I sort of get that feeling about the anti-war protesters, too. I'm not saying that they don't have the right to protest something they genuinely or heartfeltly disagree with, I just question how many of them have really looked at all the available information before they make a personal decision (as is so evident by some folks here who can go little further than offer seemingly orchestrated off-color inuendo and copy-cat verbage). Kind regards...Jack
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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 7:55 am

    When was the last time a protest actually got results?

    I'd say the last time a protest actually got results was in Spain only some days ago -- in a round about kinda way.

    And if you believe what is written in the media, the last major protest before that which obtained results was in Tbilisi, Georgia, when Eduard quit as Georgian president -- it was more of a US-backed coup d'etat, but it sounds nicer for papers to say it was people power.
     
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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:04 am

    No, what's disappointing is that in Boston only 20 people protested ! I'm sure hundreds more went to New York, but still...20 ?!?! That's disappointing.

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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:14 am

    I blame the liberal media.

    Tx only gets more than 50 people for an AYCE buffet !
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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:02 am

    Saddam ??? Dubya ??? What's the difference ???
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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:54 am

    We should also have had a demonstration, but then we had rain.

    But what does it matter. Even a million protesters won't bring back the dictator to power.

    There won't be any new Iraqi gas used against the Kurds and Iranians in the foreseeable future.

    There won't be any Scud missiles launched against neighbor countries any more.

    The dangerous protection of no fly zones isn't needed any more. The Kurds in the north and the Shias in south can sleep a lot better.

    No "food for oil" money is any longer diverted to the military, so the kids get fed adequately.

    No protester can bring back the uncertaincies of yesteryear. So why bother?

    The worst thing to bother about is whether the Russians will ever get paid for their military hardware supplies. Also, have the French Mirage fighters been paid for? Any such debts are probably among the most insecure debts in the world. If rated by the debts rating bureaus, then the alphabet may have too few letters. Or would ZZZ-Minus do?

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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:35 am

    The biggest anti-war rally will be election day November 2004.

    Those of you who have a big beef with anti-war types can hold your big signs outside a polling station.

    Or on here.

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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:51 am

    I wanted to pop by the one in Toronto on Saturday, but was busy...I was near Nathan Phillips Square later on, and there was no one there. It makes sense I guess...what is left to protest? One year ago I was in London where one million people gathered in Hyde Park for a mass protest, back when it actually seemed that plain, ordinary people could make difference. The lesson has been learned now!
     
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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:06 pm

    ..."Well don't you just have a huge penis."....

    777236ER, you had me going a good 5 minutes with that one..  Laugh out loud

    ....."The biggest anti-war rally will be election day November 2004.
    Those of you who have a big beef with anti-war types can hold your big signs outside a polling station.
    Or on here. "....

    Oh Christ.. Sounds like election day is going be busy for guys like TYSGoVols and Yanksn4. They'll still be banging away on their keyboards, trying to persuade the Airliners.net community that Bush isn't a lying peckerhead.  Insane

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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:48 pm

    Remember that big NY protest in Times Square the day the bombing started? I would have joined, but I was with a group and the group leader wouldn't let me go. I wish I could have joined so bad.

    Those of you who have a big beef with anti-war types can hold your big signs outside a polling station.

    That inspires me to vote to oust Dubya even more.

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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:23 pm

    Sabena330,

    The City of New York, police department which provides security for these events, put the number of anti-US demonstrators in New York at less then a third of the 100,000 number you mention, and is brought up by organizers of these rallies.

    Needless to say the organizers have an incentive to inflate their numbers, so I don't doubt that then numbers of the other cities you listed are also similarly inflated.
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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:25 pm

    I love all of the ignorant signs...especially this one:

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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:28 pm

    Protest rally numbers are always inflated by the organizers and under reported by the authorities. Then they squabble over the numbers.

    I believe that the DC Park Police have stopped issueing reports on attendance levels at rallies and political events in Washington, DC.

    In any case, thankfully we have an election in November this year. And lets hope that we don't have to rely on Antonin Scalia to rule on the number of valid voters this time around.
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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 2:21 pm

    Why the hell do these "peace protestors" have signs that say "Kill Bush, Blair, Sharon and Coward”??? They're just like those idiots who set fire to buildings and claim they do it to protect the environment. Also while Watching CNN last night they aired some anti-war rally footage and showed someone holding a sign that said "Release Saddam!!” Is it just me or do we really have some nutty people out there? Why in gods name would anyone want this bastard released?!?

    By the way, that picture from Rome looks more like the San Francisco Gay Pride Parade than an anti-war rally  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 2:29 pm

    "Release Saddam"?

    Maybe a certain Anet member, who shall remain nameless, showed up at one of those rallies.  Laugh out loud
     
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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 2:37 pm

    Now just because I wanted to go to the peace protest doesn't mean I want that F...head released!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

    Really that is an example of an uneducated liberal. One who is led on and who does it because "I'm a rebel and it's cool." I prefer to be educated.

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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 2:44 pm

    And another thing, what about them feminists ??? First they burn their bras, Now their running around begging for support. what the hells up with that ???
    Next time try the old "dirty Sanchez" She'll love it !!!
     
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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 3:04 pm

    Who organized this? Were there independent worldwide protests on the day, or did some group organize most of them?

    Who was the last President that was as deeply hated as much as Bush is (I don't mean that most people hate him, I mean that the people who do hate him hate him with a passion I've never seen)
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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 3:27 pm

    Just gotta love the stupidity of International ANSWER.



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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 3:37 pm

    B757300

    Do you know where that picture is taken? Because It seems like he has never been to the NYC before. Anyone who has been to NYC before wouldn't write BS like that on a sign and walk around the streets like that. That's something a terrorist would write..
     
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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 3:47 pm

    Well done Josh! I bet CNN reported it as a huge very successful rally. Probably fun to watch...
     
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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 4:16 pm

    I still blame the liberal media, pinkos !
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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 4:17 pm

    I love all of the ignorant signs...especially this one:
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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:05 pm

    It's a pity that the rational thoughts of those who are opposed to the war are being ridiculed by some idiots running around with signs like 'I love NYC, even more without the WTC'.

    Some things our neocons have to know:
    1) only a very small % of the anti-war people actually supports this crap (just like the small percentage who finds that Bush is ONLY doing a great job)

    2) I almost can't believe somebody actually carried this message. Where was this taken?

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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:25 pm

    Yeah the guy carrying the WTC sign needs a good butt whooping. Protesting is one thing but, to me it seems he is poking fun at 9/11 here. No matter what side of the spectrum your on that is just plain sick. Just so you know that the 50,000 number almost sounds right for SF, it was a huge mob afterall.

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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:31 pm

    If I would see somebody protesting with a sign like that, I would have no problem to destroy it...

    As you say, TYS, this is plain sick.

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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 9:54 pm

    The WTC sign looks suspisciously like it is a computer paste-up rather than an actual sign. Real or not, the results show a talent parallel with intellegence. Regards...Jack
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    RE: Disappointing Anti-war Rally

    Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:01 pm

    The WTC sign looks suspisciously like it is a computer paste-up rather than an actual sign.

    Exactly my thoughts too... I cannot believe anybody actually carried that sign.

    Seen that it is coming from B757300, it's even more suspicious...

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