saintsman
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Nuclear Attack Preparations In The 60's

Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:04 pm

How did you expect to survive a nuclear attack on the UK in the sixties? With a stiff upper lip it would appear. Details have been released of how the government would have informed the public of what to do and what was expected from them.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3572655.stm

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RE: Nuclear Attack Preparations In The 60's

Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:10 pm

What was the government supposed to do? The truth is, a nuclear attack would lead to nuclear war leading to most people in Britain being said. Had the public been told this explicitly by government, there would have been panic.
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saintsman
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RE: Nuclear Attack Preparations In The 60's

Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:20 pm

I understand what you are saying, but do you think that we would accept that sort of information today?

Maybe people are a bit more informed these days? Even so I doubt many can grasp the fact that millions would have died.

 
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RE: Nuclear Attack Preparations In The 60's

Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:31 pm

this thread reminds me of ABC/NBC training in bootcamp.
it was really ridiculous, i remember when i did the instructions to people later on i couldnt ever do it without a grin.
you'd tell people to put on a gas mask and throw over a poncho and kneel on the ground in a ditch or put on the flimsy overgarment full protective suit that needs replacement every 20 hours, and then prepare to reestablish combat readiness if conditions permit.
of course some of the measures are better then nothing, but some of the things really belong to the area of comedy and not survival.
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RE: Nuclear Attack Preparations In The 60's

Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:46 pm

Anybody remember Protect and Survive in the late seventies/early eighties? Those frankly terrifying cartoons that showed how to stay alive (yeah right  Insane )in a nuclear attack?

Almost ruined my childhood, they did.
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RE: Nuclear Attack Preparations In The 60's

Mon Mar 29, 2004 11:56 pm

"Do not forget your pets."

Oh jees, theres a nuclear attack, WHERES FLUFFY!!!!!


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RE: Nuclear Attack Preparations In The 60's

Tue Mar 30, 2004 3:30 am

Then acclaimed film maker Peter Watkins had to go and make a then realistic film about the effect on the UK of a nuclear attack, 'The War Game'.
The BBC got cold feet in 1965, and did not show it.
Eventually it was, 20 years later, after the BBC had made and shown an updated version, 'Threads'.
This later film, about the lives of several families in Sheffield in the build up to, and aftermath of a nuclear exchange, projected life afterwards in a poisoned nation suffering from nuclear winter and living at subsistence levels, certainly blew the slightly earlier US version, 'The Day After' out of the water.
 
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RE: Nuclear Attack Preparations In The 60's

Tue Mar 30, 2004 3:34 am

Duck... and cover!

There's little that can be done to survive a surprise attack with nuclear weapons, and no evacuating tens of millions of citizens (where to anyway???) if one were expected to start.

Indeed not informing the general population would be best to avoid panic so at least some people may survive...
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RE: Nuclear Attack Preparations In The 60's

Tue Mar 30, 2004 5:17 am

This reminds me of one particular short "survival" clip:

"There was a turtle by the name of Burt,
and Burt the Turtle was very alert.
When danger threatened him, he never got hurt;
he knew just what to do.
He'd duck and cover, duck and cover..."

Narrator: You and I don't have shells to crawl into, like Burt the Turtle, so we have to cover up in our own way. Paul and Patty know this. No matter where they go or what they do, they always remember what to do if the atom bomb explodes right then.

"It's a bomb! Duck and cover!"

Here's Tony going to his Cub Scout meeting. Tony knows that the bomb can explode any time of the year - day or night. "Duck and cover!" Atta boy, Tony. That flash means "act fast!"

"Duck and cover, duck and cover. He did what we all must learn to do; you and you and you and you. You and you and you and you - duck and cover! Remember what to do, friends... DUCK AND COVER!"
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RE: Nuclear Attack Preparations In The 60's

Tue Mar 30, 2004 5:30 am

My mom used to tell me stories of nuclear attack drills in elementary and secondary schools (she grew up about 25-30 miles or so from New York City) which consisted of ducking under their desks...not exactly the most effective measure but what else could be done?

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RE: Nuclear Attack Preparations In The 60's

Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:43 am



Our family construction company built quite a few bomb shelters in the San Diego area in the 60's and 70's.

They make for a great wine cellar now I have been told...

Not even one phone call about building a new bomb shelter since the late 1980's - Have to blame Reagan for that drop in business!

Thank God were are able to joke about this today...and our kids don't have to worry about a nuclear winter.



 
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RE: Nuclear Attack Preparations In The 60's

Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:54 am

My mom used to tell me stories of nuclear attack drills in elementary and secondary schools (she grew up about 25-30 miles or so from New York City) which consisted of ducking under their desks...not exactly the most effective measure but what else could be done?

What was the person who thought that hiding under desks help at all in a nuclear blast smoking?
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ScarletHarlot
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RE: Nuclear Attack Preparations In The 60's

Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:58 am

The US government is still at its propaganda.

http://www.idlewords.com/nuclear_blast.htm

The real version:

http://www.ready.gov/nuclear_visual.html
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RE: Nuclear Attack Preparations In The 60's

Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:13 am

What was the person who thought that hiding under desks help at all in a nuclear blast smoking?

Nothing at all. It was not meant so much as to teach people what could save as them as much as to keep them alert.
Nothing like having everyone thinking they're helping along to make people stand united.

And of course ducking under tables could help a bit against blast, especially at a good distance where there might be flying glass and wood but no collapsing buildings.

And staying low might well prevent burns, keeping a low profile means less of the body is exposed to radiation as well.
Might not matter to people close to the explosion, but a few miles away is a different story.
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RE: Nuclear Attack Preparations In The 60's

Tue Mar 30, 2004 10:01 am

Duck and cover = longer, lingering death from radiation sickness. I'd rather die instantly.
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RE: Nuclear Attack Preparations In The 60's

Tue Mar 30, 2004 10:16 am

Jwenting is correct. If you are very close to the blast there is NO time to react. You are dead. BUT if you are far enough away that you see a flash and have time to get under a table or desk if the shockwave just breaks glass or makes ceiling tiles fall you may be OK. The radioactive fallout will kill you if you get enough exposure to it. Maybe someone will develop a cure for radiation poisoning. Maybe there is already one in the works. Staying alive buys you time. Hope is very powerful, and people have been know to survive things that they shouldn't. So duck and cover. Maybe it'll save you. Maybe it won't. In either case it gives you hope
 
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RE: Nuclear Attack Preparations In The 60's

Tue Mar 30, 2004 10:26 am

There was a book written about a town in Florida's survival after a fictional nuclear war. It was Alas Babylon (I can't remember who wrote it). It takes place in the 50s.
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RE: Nuclear Attack Preparations In The 60's

Tue Mar 30, 2004 10:48 am

When I went to grade school in NYC, we used to have "shelter drills" just in case the Soviets fire a nuclear ICBM at us. Well, the drill was to report to the hallway outside the room, squeeze into a ball and over you head and neck. Never understood the logic in that since a nuke strike will blow your ass off in no time flat, which I would rather have then die of radiation poisoning.
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