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Welcoming Dlkapa To The Real World

Sat Apr 17, 2004 2:53 pm

I have come to a realization while working tonight. Call it bleakly optimistic, as that is the way I describe it. When I last spoke of my thoughts, I recall many people saying things like "We'll make a republican of you yet," and the like. This time it goes far beyond the petty party lines (ok, it actually breaks them apart), and hopefully you will find meaning in what I have realized. If you at this point feel like not reading any further out of shear boredom, please feel free at any time to go back to the non_av. I'm not forcing you to read anything by opening this thread, I'm just simply asking you to hear what I have to say.

My realization is this. Right now, as America exists today, In my region of the world known as Suburban Middle America, the people all suck. Every one of them in this society sucks. Now, at this point you are saying to yourself, "wow, this kid is full of rage." I really do not like to consider myself an angry person, I really think that I am not full of rage, But full of longing. A Longing for what can be, for what we as a human species can accomplish for our world. Look at what god (or who/what you consider to be your creator) has given us: The intelligence and ability to become something better than ourselves, by reaching out and helping others. I believe however, that many people have taken these words to be a bit too literal in the biblical context, and then these people have caused many subsequent atrocities, for example the Halocaust and the Native American Genocide, and because of all this, I am firmly against evangelical prozolatisation.

I see people coming through my checkline every day yapping on their cellphones, even had an interestingly frightening person on a cell phone come through today talking about "well, did he die of the gunshot or of blood loss?" They genuinely believe that life is all about them, that they are the most important, that they are what everyone must worship. These people do believe in God, they believe that they are God. These people are the angriest I have ever seen, and I wonder why they could be so? Are they in a hurry? That's no reason to be angry. Did they have a bad day? Why are they taking it out on me? Why not do something productive with that anger, like turning it into some creative form of art? The people of which I speek blindly follow all things GOP (no offense to GOP members here, that's not what this is about), and vehemently condemn all things that even remotely contradict all things GOP (i.e, me). Can you imagine what I felt when a person who came through my checkline said "Blame it on those stupid liberals." Can you imagine what I felt when she referred to me in that context, and how I had to hide my feelings lest I get myself fired?

I see people cutting people off in traffic. Classic road rage. Why? they get themselves 5 seconds ahead? What does that satisfy? How will this help? Are you so blindly cut up in yourself that you must act macho all the time?

Now here is my real question. God has given the human species the power and intellectuall learning capacity to far exceed the animal kingdom in terms of the way we behave towards others. We have also been given this amazing ability to create a better world for ourselves, to create the capacity for peace with all nations. But instead, we have used our intellect to create weapons of unthinkable destruction. Why? Why are we so wrapped up in ourselves that we can't benefit society as a whole?

Why?

If you have continued reading this far, I congradulate you, as I was barely able to type this out myself. Again note that what I consider my creator (God), You may not. If you are not christian and don't believe in god as the creator, that's fine with me and I hope you are happy, and you can replace my creator with yours in the above.

Thank you for reading.

DLKAPA

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RE: Welcoming Dlkapa To The Real World

Sat Apr 17, 2004 3:03 pm

Eric,
Quit King Soopers.... go get a piece of tail and quit whining. Your embarrassing the rest of us, you sound like a whinny Liberal.

Oh wait, check that. You are.

Things are good in my little corner of suburbia.
 
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Sat Apr 17, 2004 3:07 pm

Yeah, me and Jeff presumably share a common piece of suburbia, and like he said, something's just wrong with your share, I suggest you get a refund.

Life is life, you gotta take it what comes your way, that goes for just about everything except gay men.

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Sat Apr 17, 2004 3:10 pm

Ok, fine. I'm sorry. I'm very truly sorry that the vast majority of the people around me are using 10% of their potential if that.

Tha's pretty much what the entire rant was about.

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Sat Apr 17, 2004 3:12 pm

Vitaly,
He just needs to get laid, or lay off the Mary Jane, or both for that matter. I just used to get the munchies..., evidently he has to try and make deep thoughts....

going shooting tomorrow! wooo hooo..!

 
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Sat Apr 17, 2004 3:13 pm

They probably use the other 90% once they know you are out of earshot...
 
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RE: Welcoming Dlkapa To The Real World

Sat Apr 17, 2004 3:18 pm

It may come as a shock to you jeff, I have never smoked weed. I have never taken a puff of that shit. I saw what it did to one of my best friends. Last I heard of him he is a cook at a village inn and still on the weed. I think he went back to an alternative school, but that will get him nowhere, hence why I have choosen to stay drug free, except alcohol, but I've never been drunk. I don't even smoke tobacco.


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Sat Apr 17, 2004 3:19 pm

Yeah, Ok DLKAPA, I'm using 10%?

I'd like to see your percentages, should equal about 0.012%, if that.

Vitaly,
He just needs to get laid


That comment goes for 100% of MANkind.


Whoa, I never knew Jeff *The Military Man* Miller used to poke smot.
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Sat Apr 17, 2004 3:24 pm

I grew up in the 60's and 70's.....

a little weed here and there is all I did. I enjoyed it, didn't hide the fact that I did it either. They (Navy) just would not allow it while serving. I have not had a hit for close to 23 years.

Would I do it again? sure, but I did know when to quit. And tacos at Jack in the Box were 4 for a Buck. Helped out big time with the munchies...
 
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Sat Apr 17, 2004 3:25 pm

DLKAPA,

You are temporarily missing one of your required ingredients to belong to the liberal club:

Hope.

Conservatives are driven by fear and protection of what they have, or what they had.

Liberals are driven by hope for something better.

Your posts (and I have read ALL of them) are witty, intelligent, inspired and sometimes motivating.

The "people" that you've observed, are making you feel this way because they are all reacting to situations, or "receiving" whatever karma falls upon them.

You are capable of making a difference by not being one of them.

I challenge you to touch someone's life tomorrow with an act of hope, or kindness or caring - and encourgae them to do the same thing the following day.

Then, you'll be on your way to earning your "liberal wings" back again.

ALSO, please see my comment to you in the self-Pic thread.

Your liberal friend,
KG

" ... Many Americans have convinced themselves that they cannot change - that we as a people are at our peak. I just don't believe that. The cynicism that's hurting us today will be replaced by hope - one person at a time - and America can move in a new direction ... "

- A former liberal President

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RE: Welcoming Dlkapa To The Real World

Sat Apr 17, 2004 3:26 pm

Ok, fine. I'm sorry. I'm very truly sorry that the vast majority of the people around me are using 10% of their potential if that.

Yeah, Ok DLKAPA, I'm using 10%?

Vitaly, I have never met you before. If you look at what I have said, I believe that the vast majority of the people around me are only using 10% of their potential.

I can say however that from what I have gathered on this thread, you are not part of the vast majority, and neither is jeff. You both have helped me a great deal in my photographical endeavors. From your posts I have learned many things about my cameras that I never thought mattered. You are definitely way above that 10%.

This thread was not directed to anybody on a.net, but more to the people around me. The people who I have come into face-to-face contact with. Sorry if it offended you, it wasn't meant to.

DLKAPA

Edit: Diamond, thank you for your kind words. I accept the challenge. As for the "Hope," I really think that falls under the "Longing" category. I long for society as a whole to become its potential. To be something better than it is now. We all have the power to change, to do great things, so let's use it to better mankind. HO!


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Sat Apr 17, 2004 3:30 pm

Ahh, it's ok DLKAPA - everyone knows something little can stir up something big in a teenager's mind, whatever, it's alright with me.

I don't get offended easily either, so don't you worry quite yet.
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RE: Welcoming Dlkapa To The Real World

Sat Apr 17, 2004 3:35 pm

See? You sound more hopeful already!
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Sat Apr 17, 2004 3:45 pm

Well just because they show you stuff about your camera doesn't mean they really care about you. They just want to show off their knowledge  Wink/being sarcastic There's always a selfish, self-beneficial alterior motive. Now I'm sounding negative...

I know exactly what you're talking about DLKAPA. I refer to these people as "rugged individualists" ("rugged individualism" was President Hoover's initial conservative plan to help the country out of the great depression ... FAILED, btw). They only care about themselves and nobody else. However, it may come as a comfort to know that it's 20 times worse in this part of the country and especially in this fanatical, ultra-conservative, fundamentalist religous state. It comes as a comfort to me because I know that I'm getting the hell out of this fucked up state asap!

Where do you live, specifically? I'm basically in Colorado Springs, and it's so incredibly bad down here. Read this: http://www.turnleft.com/places/colorado_springs.html

I always love it when I go to the east coast for vacation or something. It's so comforting to see people caring for each other and looking out for each other in the simplest ways. You'd never see that here. Very sad.

And yes these types do typically vote Republican, but I still don't understand the correlation. Here it's probably because the religious fanatics think the Republicans are on this moral pedestal (the current administration is full of filthy liars, how's that for morality. wait, these religious types are hypocrits).

Anyways, glad to know someone else notices it.

Shawn
 
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RE: Welcoming Dlkapa To The Real World

Sat Apr 17, 2004 3:53 pm

Last time I went to Arkansas, me, my dad, and my granpa were driving through a very rural area, we came upon a little pocket of trailer homes, one of which was fully engulfed in flames. It was so comforting to see that even though the fire department had not yet arrived, everyone in the area that could see the smoke was rushing there with all the help they could offer, which basically consisted of buckets filled from a pond. We didn't have any buckets, or else we would have definetly pitched in and helped, but it almost brought tears to my eyes to see an entire community come together to help one in need.

Conversely, here in Parker, one of our teachers at Ponderosa High recently passed away. (You denverites probably saw it on the news a year ago). He was working out early in the morning at a 24hour fitness center, and had a massive heart attack while on a treadmill. The fitness centers management took the diplomatic  Yeah sure course, and decided to cover his body with towels, all the while people were continuing to STEP OVER HIS BODY TO CONTINUE WITH THEIR WORKOUTS!!!

Just to give you an idea of what this place is like.

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Sat Apr 17, 2004 3:54 pm

Here's another little gripe!

Tonight I heard a radio commercial for a Mercedes dealer in Colorado Springs. No bullshit, the first phrase was "The kind of car you drive speaks volumes about what kind of person you are." Oh my God in heaven, help us! HELP US!!!
 
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Sat Apr 17, 2004 3:56 pm

Man, I feel sorry for you. Here I live in Conservative America, I guess you live about ten miles to the right of Conservative america.

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RE: Welcoming Dlkapa To The Real World

Sat Apr 17, 2004 4:53 pm

Angry young man syndrome hard at work

Once you look past all the bs and let yourself laugh at it, you'll be a lot better off
 
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Sun Apr 18, 2004 2:13 pm

You don't know what it's like till you live here, WellHung. It eats away at you.
 
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Sun Apr 18, 2004 3:00 pm

... In my region of the world known as Suburban Middle America,

That's your 1st problem right there! When you can...GTFO there. I agree with Diamond, I've read may of you post and you are a very bright and articulate person who has no trouble expressing himself. Your mental capacity is really limited in areas similar to where you reside. I've been the places like that..and they a nice..but being around limited minded like thinking people (GOP types) your prone to one outcome....mental suffocation. You remind me of the kid in film 'Happy, Texas'... hope you can survive it or are successful in leaving it behind! But you don't have to be in middle America for that..communities like that exist in Riverside. Orange County...which means you can be right snug up to one of the most progressive cities in the world..and yet might as well be Lawrence, Kansas!

As for Road Rage, it's everywhere...well, I'm totally guilty. If I gotta call that Iberia's delivery 744 airc is at LAX and will be there for 45 mins..I'll get there (to photograph it) with 25 mins to spare! The right booty call..the same result! I don't know what they are racing for in Wyoming and Nebraska..but I do have my priorities!


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Sun Apr 18, 2004 3:14 pm

Thanks guys, It feels good to see that somebody actually knows what I'm talking about.

I'm going to college this fall in Durango, not so middle-america. I went down there on a college visit last fall and instantly fell in love with the place. It's a party town, but there are also very many intellectual-type things to do there (oh no, "Intellectual-type?" mental suffocation is ALREADY SETTING IN!!! AAAAGGHH!!!)

Can't wait to get the fuck out of here. Like that staind song goes (I keep repeating it when I'm down) "Live in my head for just one day, I see myself and look away, the road is showing now on my face, soon I'll dissappear with, I'll dissappear without a FUCKING TRACE!!!"

Oh here I go sounding angry again.

DLKAPA
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Sun Apr 18, 2004 3:41 pm

DLKAPA,

Durango? It's a beautiful place - and very open-minded. There are a lot of ex-hippies from the 60s and 70s who live in that area - and they still drive into town in their wildly painted VW buses, etc. But they are a wise and friendly group, if not a little "out there".

I suggest that you consider Santa Fe and Tucson and as places to visit. They are artistic, creative and intellectual places where people think more with their hearts than their heads.

What will you be majoring in?
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Sun Apr 18, 2004 3:47 pm

I'll probably be spending a whole lot of time around Mesa Verde while I'm down there, I have always been fascinated with Ancient Southwest Culture.

I'll be majoring in Theatre with an emphasis on Tech. I will also be studying audio production as an independant study, either with Charlie Daniels in his studio (the college says they can set that up), or in EagleSound.

Can't wait
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Sun Apr 18, 2004 10:53 pm

OMG, your going to Fort Lewis? Excellent basket weaving class from what I hear....

http://www.fortlewis.edu/

You do know Charlie Daniels isn't a Liberal....right?
 
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RE: Welcoming Dlkapa To The Real World

Sun Apr 18, 2004 11:00 pm

dlkapa, you are a closet conservative  Smile
you are still fighting against it, but you will not escape your true self.
you do however seem to look for ways to change your true self, with the very very mighty move tool. congratulations and i think you will achieve your goal with that. durango seems nice, make sure to get a mountain bike when there and you will meet many people.
also make sure you go abroad regularly, no better school in life then travelling, especially to get rid of that evil piece of ignorance that fuels conservative thinking :p
10=2
 
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RE: Welcoming Dlkapa To The Real World

Sun Apr 18, 2004 11:18 pm

You know DLK, your post would actually have some credibility if your idea of "America's full potential" wasn't every American becoming a Bill Clinton liberal and joining the Democratic party.
 
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Sun Apr 18, 2004 11:48 pm

"I see people cutting people off in traffic. Classic road rage. Why? they get themselves 5 seconds ahead? What does that satisfy? How will this help? Are you so blindly cut up in yourself that you must act macho all the time?"

At least we agree on one thing. However, I would contend that you truly do not know what it is to drive in an adversarial climate until you have spent some time on Boston roads. But driving is driving, and life is life.

As to the rest of your original post, I think you are a bright kid, but I think you may be suffering from the classic paranoia that generally besets people of your age. You are so entrenched in the "DLKAPA against the world" mindset. Life simply is not like that.

There are wonderful people in the new suburban west. I know, because I grew up there. There are great people on the east coast, I know, because I live there now. You will find jerks wherever you go. And if people want to be jerks, there's nothing you can do to stop them. It's not personal, it's just life. Deal with it.

Regarding the whole GOP-bashing thing, I simply do not think there is much truth to the stereotypes. I know plenty of conservatives that are truly compassionate. And during my time here in Boston, I have met enough very cool Democrats to know that the rumors about them are not true either.

Personally, I am quite happy retaining "independent" political status. Choosing a political side is a waste of time and energy for someone like me, because I don't have to choose a platform or win over constituants. Political party is completely meaningless for a guy like me. I vote for the person I like the best, and I leave it at that.

Say what you want about how suburban people suck, but I can't wait for that kind of life. I'm going to get married, have kids, and buy a house. Maybe we'll even have a dog. I'm going to spend most of my free time on the home and yard, "honey-do's," and entertaining the young'uns (and a little on golf and NASCAR racing.)

Call it a bourgeois existance, but it sounds like heaven to me.

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RE: Welcoming Dlkapa To The Real World

Mon Apr 19, 2004 11:46 am

OMG, your going to Fort Lewis? Excellent basket weaving class from what I hear....

They like to call it "center for southwest studies," but I call it shit. That isn't what I'm there for.

You do know Charlie Daniels isn't a Liberal....right?

I care why? Why the hell should I care if he isn't liberal? It's about music, not party lines.

You know DLK, your post would actually have some credibility if your idea of "America's full potential" wasn't every American becoming a Bill Clinton liberal and joining the Democratic party.

you don't have a clue about what my idea of "american's full potential" is. But, I'll tell you. My idea of "american's full potential" is that everyone achieve what they can achieve, to live life to its fullest. What I see is people slogging through their day-to-day routine, hating life, and not giving a damn one way or another to change their circumstances.

Apparently some of you missed this part:
I recall many people saying things like "We'll make a republican of you yet," and the like. This time it goes far beyond the petty party lines (ok, it actually breaks them apart)

In essence, I don't give a damn about what political party one chooses to be, just so long as they are educated about it.

That's all that matters.

DLKAPA
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RE: Welcoming Dlkapa To The Real World

Mon Apr 19, 2004 2:03 pm

What I see is people slogging through their day-to-day routine, hating life, and not giving a damn one way or another to change their circumstances.

I feel sorry for you if that is what your perspective of life shows you.

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