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Which Car Should I Buy Next?

Wed Apr 28, 2004 10:09 am





1968 Mercury Park Lane Convertible with Yacht Deck Paneling





1970 Mercury Marquis Convertible




It's been over a year since I got rid of my 1987 Chrysler LeBaron convertible and the summer is coming. I miss the top-down fun of a convertible but I don't miss the head-ache those K-cars gave. I want to have the best of both worlds now. I want the comfort, ride quality, performance and reliability of my 1977 Lincoln Town Car but also the thrill of driving a convertible. Lincoln made convertible in the 1960s but they are all over $10,000.00. That's just too much money and because the top folds down in to the trunk, there is not much trunk space with those with the top down.

The 1968 Mercury Park Lane had the unique feature of wood grain side paneling but the 1970 Marquis has the concealed headlights and rides on a longer wheelbase. Too bad the wood grain side panels were not available for the 1970 convertible.  Sad
The 1968 comes with a 428cu" V8 which is more performance tuned and was also used in the Mustang Mach I and Cougar Eliminator. The Marquis comes with the 429cu" which is more of a cruiser cops and taxi engine. My car's 460cu" is the same block as the 429cu".
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Wed Apr 28, 2004 10:20 am

I'd go with a Marquis myself, nice looking ride and will better match your Continental.

Although I'd take a continental any day!
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Wed Apr 28, 2004 10:44 am

Vafi88:
I may end up getting the Marquis. It's a little easier to find. 1,612 were made. The Park Lane with yacht deck paneling is very rare.
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Wed Apr 28, 2004 11:09 am

Your personality has Pinto written all over it...don't dissapoint us.
Well, OK, Vega.
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Get a Marquis (with the special black leather 'De Sade') interior.
 
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RE: Which Car Should I Buy Next?

Wed Apr 28, 2004 11:18 am

Funny Greg!  Laugh out loud

These cars are much bigger than a Pinto or Vega.
I actually almost bought a Marquis convertible with the black interior like you mentioned. But the f--khead that was selling it did some awful things to this car that would make it extremly expensive to repair to make it all original again.
He painted the car a metallic, glittery silver which was not factory and he cut up the dashboard to put in an after market CD player. I should have choked the F--khead!  Pissed

You can do that to the cheap Chevy Impalas but not a Mercury!
That is a crime!
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Wed Apr 28, 2004 11:19 am

I don't know too much about these cars but if I had to say which one right now, I'd probably go for the Marquis. It'll probably have the reliability of the Town Car. I assume this will replace the Town Car, right?
Just out of curiosity, how difficult is it to find these kinds of cars out there in good condition?
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Wed Apr 28, 2004 11:41 am

Classic Cadillace convertible. With all the chrome and tailfins. And of course, pink is your color, Supe.

Too bad they're apparently before your favorite era and probably would cost too much.

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Wed Apr 28, 2004 11:53 am

BH346:
I assume this will replace the Town Car, right?

Hell no!
I will never get rid of that!
I just want a fun summertime car but the Town Car is my main car. My LeBaron was supposed to be a fun summertime car but I spead most of the summer under the hood of that car.



MD-90:
Drive a pink car around San Francisco?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
I'd get lots of unwanted attention, if you know what I mean.  Big grin
A 1959 Cadillac convertable is awesome but those are as pricey as the convertible Contenintals of the 1960s. The Cadillacs with fins and the convertible Contenintals would stand out too much and I don't like to attract too much attention to myself. Those are great cars but I'd feel like I am putting on a show everytime I'd go somewhere.

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Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:34 pm

Corvette?

Nah, too common. Not really in to exotic fast cars. If I were to get a sports car, I'd go for a 1971-1973 Mercury Cougar convertible or an AMC Javelin/AMX.
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Wed Apr 28, 2004 8:12 pm

Meh... say what you will about the Corvette, but I just love 'em. But that's cool if you are into old boats. (kiddin' ya!)

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Wed Apr 28, 2004 8:29 pm

I think you should have a AMC Pacer. They are IMO a very cool little car if you are in to that. I must admit that I would like to have one my self. But they are very difficult to find here in Europe.

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Wed Apr 28, 2004 8:31 pm

Superfly, go for a 1966 Thunderbird ~~ Rag Top!!!! Nice cars!!!!!!

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Wed Apr 28, 2004 11:15 pm

Hey, 'Fly! Maybe you should reconsider the 60's Continental rag-top. Remember, they are four doors (suicide doors, no less) offering a lot more function for partying and such, maybe worth the extra $$. Regards...Jack
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Wed Apr 28, 2004 11:28 pm

The 70 Marquis is not a bad looking ride. Another possibility, and probably more common would be a Galaxie 500, and they pretty much have the same body as the Marquis aside from a few differences in the grill and such.

Now does it have to be a Lincoln/Mercury??? Or even a full-size? B/c a Cougar convertable sounds pretty nice, perhaps a 'Cuda.

From that era I am sort of fond of the LeSabre/Electra as well as the big Mopar cars (300, New Yorker, Newport, Fury, Polara/Monaco). All big and all pretty decent looking cars too.
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Thu Apr 29, 2004 1:42 am

Get a '77 Trans Am 6.6L V8 with t-tops. You get a good solid ride, decent reliability, muscle-car prowess, and the t-tops give you almost as nice a feel as a convertible would.
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Thu Apr 29, 2004 1:54 am

I would go with the Park Lane. Very rare. It appears to need restoration, however. Do you do such work yourself?

How about a "Creme and Gold Luxury Group" 1976 Thunderbird? Or a Cartier/Bill Blass/Givenchy Lincoln Mark IV, circa 1974?

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Thu Apr 29, 2004 5:55 am

Here are a couple more ideas, Superfly...

Cadillac Allante-- rare, nice-looking design (if a bit bland), shouldn't be too expensive. The 1993 (last year) (or was it 1992?) finally got the Northstar V8.

Chrysler/Maserati TC-- a bit offbeat, but at least will get attention.

I know these cars are a little of the wall, but you don't strike me as the type who minds standing out from the crowd!
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Thu Apr 29, 2004 6:09 am

Superfly;
Was the Meteor based on the Park Lane (...with yacht deck side paneling), or vice versa?? I'll have to get photos of my dad's rides to show ya. Dunno what it is with you guys and your love for land yachts. Smallest car my dad owned was a '78 T'bird.
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Thu Apr 29, 2004 7:24 am

I know you like the big heavy American metal but if it were me my driveway would once again be graced with one of these gems

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Thu Apr 29, 2004 9:58 am

RNOcommctr:
I like your suggestion about the Allante and Chrysler TC.
No more front-drive cars for me. My last car was a 1987 LeBaron Convertible which is the same car as the TC by Maserati. I don't want to revisit the horror of owning one.
Did you know that the Cadillac Allante was shipped from Italy to the United States via Boeing 747?  Smokin cool

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Cptkrell:
Those 1960s Lincolns are sweet but I'd rather put that amount of money towards flight school.

DesertJets:
I do like the Buick Electra 225, Wildcats and Cadillac Coupe deVille convertibles of this era as well. They are a lot more common but unfortunatly, they are popular among thugs/gangsters. I don't want any parts or the car to be stolen.


Stretch 8:
I am not that good with body work... auto body work that is.  Smile
I do know of someone who is. I am strickly mechanical.


AWspicious:
Dunno what it is with you guys and your love for land yachts.

I am sure your father liked other large things as well. From your emails, I can tell he raised his son well.  Big grin


EA CO AS:
Those 1970s Trans Ams were great but I'd feel too much like Smokey and the Bandits.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


VAPORLOCK:
Thunderbird convertibles are some sex cars!  Big thumbs up
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Thu Apr 29, 2004 11:28 am

Well, aren't you gay? What's wrong with the attention?

I'd drive one. They're cool (not if I lived in San Francisco, I admit).
 
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Thu Apr 29, 2004 11:43 am

MD-90:
Well, aren't you gay?

Nice attempt at being funny but I'll laugh anyway.

I never liked the pink Cadillac. I'd rather have a 1959 Cadillac in red.
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Thu Apr 29, 2004 2:21 pm

Superfly, gay?

Right! (ROLLS ON FLOOR CACKLING UNCONTROLLABLY)

xxx

OK, 'Fly, I am going to stray a bit here.

First off, of the proposed choices, it would have to be the Marquis. Still pretty rare in the convertible, though. And, like Greg said, go for the de Sade trim package (credit to Jean Lindamood for that one...).

Why not consider, though, a Cougar / Montego or Torino? Still plenty big, significantly easier to park in those tight SFO streets, and with gas over $2.00 a gallon (for MoGas!), 4,000 lbs and a 351 might be better than 5,300 lbs and a 429 or 460.

Or, you could always go for el gusto and get a Fleetwood Eldorado Cabriolet.

I understand the urge, as there is nothing quite like the pleasure of open-air motoring, even if you have (as you do) a sunroof the size of Rhode Island.

Good luck... and be sure you have an 8-track player (I am putting the original one back in the Eldo next week).
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Thu Apr 29, 2004 3:24 pm

Superfly,

My heart skipped 3 beats when I thought that you were replacing that 1977 Town Car... As for recommendation, I think 1970 Mercury Marquis Convertible will be a classy convertible for Superfly!

Hope to see you in SFO at some point,

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Fri Apr 30, 2004 11:20 am

Sccutler:
If I were to stray over to General Motors, I'd definatly go for the 1970 Cadillac Coupe deVille convertible.  Smokin cool
Your Eldorado convertible (1975-1975) is the most beautiful Cadillac ever made in my opinion!  Big thumbs up
I just can't get passed the front-wheel drive thing though.
I really love the woodgrain side panels on that 1968 Park Lane but the Marquis is longer, plusher and has the concealled headlights.

Gas is $2.25 for the cheap stuff and as high as $2.75 for the good stuff. This wouldn't be a everyday driver so gas milage isn't too much of a factor for me.
If I had to get a gas saver, I'd get an early 1980s VW Diesel powered Dasherwagon or Rabbit. 50mpg, exempt from emissions test and can run on used cooking oil.

I am in no rush to make this purchase. I still have some time.




An-225:
My heart skipped 3 beats when I thought that you were replacing that 1977 Town Car...

I'd vote for Republican before I pull a crazy stunt like that!  Laugh out loud

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Tue May 04, 2004 11:53 am

Cptkrell:
Do have any data on production figures for the 1968 Mercury Park Lane Convertible with the Yacht Deck side panels?
This one guy online is claiming that only 12 were made. That seems very low.
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Tue May 04, 2004 5:12 pm

You should consider that (28,6 MPG)  Smile/happy/getting dizzy  Smile/happy/getting dizzy











 
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Wed May 05, 2004 7:00 am

Sebolino:
No way, those cars are ugly and not my style.


If I were to buy a French car, it would be a 1972 Citroen DS.
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Wed May 05, 2004 7:42 am

Superfly, I know you like the Classic Older Cars!!! I figure you'd like something that has sleek lines and a nice body!!!  Big thumbs up

Have a look at this one..... and it has a huge back seat!!!!

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Wed May 05, 2004 7:51 am

Vaporlock:
Nice car. Yes the 1968-70 Chrysler 300 convertible did make my short list.
If I were to go Chrysler, I'd go for the 1966 Imperial Crown Convertible.



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Wed May 05, 2004 7:59 am

Superfly, what can I say!!!! A car with class!!!!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

I used to own a Chrysler Windsor ~~ can't remember what year, also a 66 Thunderbird, 53 Chev... but I still love my 86 Cutlass!!!  Big thumbs up

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Wed May 05, 2004 8:03 am

Superfly,

Go with the Mercury, the 428 is awesome, just replace the stock Autolite carb. with a Holley 750 - then the world is yours.

My Dad has a '68 LTD Country Squire -428, Holley 750 and fun.

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Wed May 05, 2004 8:15 am

Aerobalance:
My Dad has a '68 LTD Country Squire -428, Holley 750 and fun.

Now that sounds like fun!  Smokin cool
I am sure he got the family to the Grand Canyon in record time!  Laugh out loud

Seriously, I do love the big Country Squires and Colony Park stationwagons!  Smokin cool


I've never driven a 428cu" or a 429cu". Was it pretty ballsy?
My 460cu" is based of the 429cu" engine and it has lots of power but it was made for cruising, long road trips and hauling. That thing is silent.
If I got the 1970 Marquis, I'd consider dropping in a 460cu" and going high performance everything; heads, carb, ignition, gearing ratio, possi-track yet make no visual changes to the exterior.
Talk about a real sleeper.  Smokin cool
I'd fool a lot of ricers!
Hell I can do that now my 77 Contenintal!  Smokin cool
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Wed May 05, 2004 8:28 am

Ballsy?! Hell-Ya, I learned how to drive in that thing. Me and my friends would hand-time 0-60 runs in the low 6.0 sec. range - brake on, mash the throttle, brake off and the left-front fender reaches for the sky as the sound of the air rushing into 4-barrel let people know that we're coming! Damn what a boat it is. Then we'd take it down to OCIR, pop the hub-caps off and embarass Corvettes (we're talking 1982 here.) in the 1/4 mile, running 14.8 @93 mph!

On trips to Chicago....wow, what a cruiser, NOTHING would get in it's way.

And best yet, it has that fake wood side paneling!!!!!!! LOL!!!!
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Wed May 05, 2004 8:40 am

Aerobalance:
One of these?


That is a great story!
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Wed May 05, 2004 1:53 pm

Superfly,

Oh yea, paint it Dark Metallic blue and we're in business!
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Wed May 05, 2004 1:57 pm

You live in San Francisco. Why would you buy a car?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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Thu May 06, 2004 11:04 am

Superfly, I understand,
- your taste is completely(!) different,
- your car has to be extra big and
- ugl .. er.. I mean
- American made.

Nevertheless ... how do you like Volvo's* C70?






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Fri May 07, 2004 10:40 am

NoUFO:
New Volvo's?
 Sleepy


IMissPiedmont:
You live in San Francisco. Why would you buy a car?
To get out of San Francisco.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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Fri May 07, 2004 10:44 am

You live in San Francisco. Why would you buy a car?

To get out of San Francisco.


If that's your goal, plane tickets are cheaper.  Big grin
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EA CO AS:
To get out of town for the weekend silly!  Laugh out loud
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Fri May 07, 2004 12:23 pm

OK. To get out of town for the weekend. I'll buy that except for a few minor points such as cost of parking, insurance and purchase cost.

From a financial point renting a car for the occassional jaunt makes more sense.
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Fri May 07, 2004 12:26 pm

Hey Superfly.

If Dirty Harry could drive a Pink Caddie, why can't you.



He definately didn't strike me as the limpwristed type.
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Sat May 08, 2004 6:34 am

IMissPiedmont:
OK. To get out of town for the weekend. I'll buy that except for a few minor points such as cost of parking, insurance and purchase cost.

Sorry but a trip up the coast to the Redwoods or Humboldt in a rented Alero or Cavalier is not the same experience as in a convertible Mercury Park Lane.  Smile
Besides, that means planning ahead, making reservations, picking up the car, worrying about getting the car back on time. I am a very spontaneous person and I often live for the moment. Also a late night unexpected booty-call in another city, I certainly would have to have my car ready to go while rental places are closed.
As far as parking goes, I already have a garage. Insurance is cheap on an old car and I have a clean driving record.

Last year I put only 3,500 miles on my Lincoln which equates to 350 gallons of gas used which has an average of 10 miles per gallon. At an average of $2.00 a gallon that comes to $700.00 spend for the whole year. I had 4 weekend getaway trips in my car last year. Renting a car for those trips would have exceeded $700.00. Also the rental car uses gas too not as much as my car but still it ends up being a lot more expensive to rent.
Also going to parties or events down the peninsula, Marin County or in the East Bay ware public transit doesn’t service after hours, my car came in handy. Renting a car for those last minute trips actually coast more than owning an old car. I do my own oil changes and the only thing I had to replace was a fuel pump ($36), and two light bulbs on the dashboard ($5).


L-188:
That's true but everybody knows him as Dirt Harry.  Laugh out loud
A pink 1959 Cadillac is a great car but you will never see one under $15,000.00. Do you know how many flight hours that is?

I'll wait until I am a Captain for a UA or NW 747 before I buy a 1960s Convertible Continental or 1950s Cadillac. Big grin
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Sat May 08, 2004 6:39 am

I say you go with the VW Bug. I just love mine, its so trendy.

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Sat May 08, 2004 8:15 am

NoUFO,
We have a 2002 S80...great car. Wouldn't mind a C70 here!

Superfly,
What about one of these:


The Impala's are pretty nice cars.
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Sat May 08, 2004 8:17 am

DeltaMD11:
Chevy Impala?
The poor mans Cadillac?
It's a very well made car but not very luxurious and every thug/ganster in town would want to 'gaffle' me for it.
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Sat May 08, 2004 8:21 am

Well it was just a thought...our neighbors have one like that but it's black and in cherry condition. Looks pretty nice when they do take it out (which is rarely).
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Sat May 08, 2004 8:35 am

That's cool. Thanks for the suggestion.
I know Pennsylvania has rust problems with older cars so I can understand why they rarely take it out. If they leave that thing parked in the rough parts of Philadelphia, they can kiss there Impala goodbye.

The 1975 Cheverolet Caprice convertible was a pretty nice car and was the closest Cheverolet came to Cadillac in terms of styling and options.



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