United Airline
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South Africa VS Eastern Europe

Sat May 01, 2004 4:54 pm

Hi! I plan to visit either one of them in January 2005. Which one would you recommend? South Africa or Eastern Europe? What's the weather like at that time?????

Which one has more to see?
 
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RE: South Africa VS Eastern Europe

Sat May 01, 2004 5:00 pm

If you are interested in bitter cold weather plus snow and ice, I would recommend Eastern Europe in January. Especially since the Christmas holidays are over by then, and most of the decorations (and holiday spirit) are long gone.

On the other hand, South Africa is hot (their summer), but also relatively crowded with tourists and locals on holiday.

I was in South Africa last year in January, and it was a great trip, with excellent weather. But I kept on thinking what things would have been like, say perhaps in February when the crowds thin out a bit.
 
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RE: South Africa VS Eastern Europe

Sat May 01, 2004 6:06 pm

South Africa, would be my choice, too cold in Europe then..
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United Airline
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RE: South Africa VS Eastern Europe

Sat May 01, 2004 6:53 pm

Anything special in South Africa?
 
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RE: South Africa VS Eastern Europe

Sat May 01, 2004 7:20 pm

No UA,it's very bland indeed. I recommend a visit to Angola instead.
 
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RE: South Africa VS Eastern Europe

Sat May 01, 2004 7:31 pm

What's Palace Hotel like? I mean the one in SA.
 
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RE: South Africa VS Eastern Europe

Sat May 01, 2004 8:08 pm

Which one? There's more than one... the one in Sun City (The Palace of the Lost City), I presume?

Personally, I didn't like it - too overdone for my taste, but Sun City in itself is quite an experience...

Have a look at http://www.sun-international.co.za or http://www.sun-international.co.za/resorts/suncity/accommodation/default.aspx?mainframe=SCPaccomIntro.aspx&Picframe=scpabar1.aspx&Menuframe=MainMenu.aspx%3fcmsMenu%3d412 for more details.

Regards,
Frank

P.S.: My choice would also be South Africa - no doubt about it... it's one of the (if not the) most beautiful countries on the face of the earth!
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RE: South Africa VS Eastern Europe

Sat May 01, 2004 10:46 pm

A search on Google.com should answer your rather vague question.

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RE: South Africa VS Eastern Europe

Mon May 03, 2004 11:04 am

South Africa, by far.
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RE: South Africa VS Eastern Europe

Mon May 03, 2004 5:37 pm

How is the Palace of the Lost City Hotel? Nice? VERY LUXURIOUS I guess?

Anything to rave about?
 
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RE: South Africa VS Eastern Europe

Mon May 03, 2004 8:54 pm

United Airline, it's very luxurious - Sun International calls (or called) it a 6-star-hotel, and (if such a category actually existed) I think it would deserve it.

I just, as mentioned above, think that it's somewhat overdone - some like it, some love it, I don't... I prefer the more subtle type of elegance or luxury that you find at some 4-5 star hotels in cities: but the Palace of the Lost City is, if you can afford it (and if you're not travelling to South Africa on a regular basis), absolutely worth it.

The whole Sun City complex is worth a visit - going there you pass through really dry areas while, coming into Sun City is like coming into an oasis...

Regards,
Frank
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RE: South Africa VS Eastern Europe

Tue May 04, 2004 2:47 am

South Africa my friend is the only place to be especially in January the weather is as always awesome.

Some advice, I would personally go to Cape Town and also to a game reserve, maybe the Kruger Park. You wont ever regret coming here, it is a legend place, but dont let me bias about beeing a south african sway your decision.

I am yet to meet any one who has visited her and has had a bad time.
 
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RE: South Africa VS Eastern Europe

Tue May 04, 2004 2:52 am

If you are going to go large with money then come here as well I suggest, last year we had 2 of the top 5 hotels in the world. That was according to Conde Nast Traveller. Our finest hotels are always good and there standards are always up there. Our ratio of excellent hotels to medium and bad ones, from what I heard is the best in the world.

 
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RE: South Africa VS Eastern Europe

Tue May 04, 2004 2:59 am

So is South Africa expensive? Or is it pretty cheap? What are the prices?
 
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RE: South Africa VS Eastern Europe

Tue May 04, 2004 3:35 am

Well ok let me give you this as in example the Rand (local currency) has almos doubled in strength the last 2 years so things for tourists have become more expensive yet relative to the rest of the world it is dirt cheap. You will get a really good 3 course meal plus drink for $10-$15 dollars per person. Even that is a lot for here. But dont take my word for it do your home work.

A can of coke here costs about $.50.

I suggest you go and buy the Dorling Kindersley Travel guide to South Africam it is very helpful and will give you a lot of details I havnt seen the Fodors one or Lonely Planet, apparently they are good for south africa as well.

If you want more info email me at mattmoolies@hotmail.com
 
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RE: South Africa VS Eastern Europe

Tue May 04, 2004 4:25 am

Don't come in February it is too hot then, October is a nice time.
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RE: South Africa VS Eastern Europe

Tue May 04, 2004 1:26 pm

US$1= How many Rand?????

HK$1?????
 
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RE: South Africa VS Eastern Europe

Tue May 04, 2004 5:44 pm

United Airline,

1 HKD = 0.890199 ZAR
1 ZAR = 1.12334 HKD

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Frank
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RE: South Africa VS Eastern Europe

Tue May 04, 2004 6:58 pm

Don't visit Europe in the Winter unless going for skiing. It's hot summer in South Africa! If you need a chill (ice, snow and -C,), then come to Europe.
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RE: South Africa VS Eastern Europe

Wed May 05, 2004 3:41 am

Is South Africa a 1st world country???? It looks pretty advanced!!!! Guess it is the richest/most advanced place in Africa.
 
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RE: South Africa VS Eastern Europe

Sun May 09, 2004 8:08 am

Definitely do come to see Central and Eastern Europe, but NOT in January. It's cold, dark, wet - I wouldn't recommend it. Late April, May, June and September are best months to come over here.
 
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RE: South Africa VS Eastern Europe

Sun May 09, 2004 10:28 am

I would go to SA. Everything is cheap and the people are great.
I was there for 3 weeks and would go back in an instant if
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RE: South Africa VS Eastern Europe

Tue May 11, 2004 5:11 am

If you love hiking, camping, nature and the great outdoors, SA is a great place to visit. I have some very nice photos of Cape Town and the Drakensberg Mountains in my online photo gallery, just to wet your appetite:

http://community.webshots.com/user/reinhoft
 
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RE: South Africa VS Eastern Europe

Tue May 11, 2004 5:31 am

Is it a first world country?
 
nonrvsmdmf
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RE: South Africa VS Eastern Europe

Tue May 11, 2004 6:54 am

United Airline, I am not sure what you mean by a 1st world country.

Of all the African nations I know SA is the best. Compared to the
states, they have everything we have. I drank the water, ate
the food and did not get sick. No shots were required, but when
I went to Krueger National Park I took anti-malaria pills. If
you need anything, you can probably find it. Its an amazing
country with great people. The only timed I felt threatened
was a Krueger when we got charged by an elephant.
(Not our fault)
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United Airline
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RE: South Africa VS Eastern Europe

Tue May 11, 2004 6:06 pm

Should be pretty advanced...... interesting

BUt where do you get those pills? Can I get any in HK?
 
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RE: South Africa VS Eastern Europe

Thu May 13, 2004 9:36 am

sorry for the long time for the reply...got a round the world trip going
on...

for the pills, you will only need anti-malaria pills if you are planning
on going to the northeast part of SA....I went to a doctor that
specializes in overseas travel...they were able to tell me what
I needed and wrote me a prescription...you should be able to get
them there as mine was just a special antibotic...they have others
but some of the side effects can be bad....ask around, there
should be a doctor that can help you........
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