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American Psycho

Thu May 06, 2004 10:46 pm

Anyone read the book or saw the movie? I just finished the book for maybe the 4th time. It's a pretty interesting satire on 1980's life in NYC. Very explicit sex and violence in the book, probably the most graphic thing I've ever read, but it's really an interesting read. You just can't put it down. The 2000 movie version starring Christian Bale (whom I think is a brilliant actor) did the book some justice, although it's no where near as graphic as the novel to say the least. It's worth reading and/or seeing for anyone who's a fan of the horror and dark comedy genres.

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RE: American Psycho

Thu May 06, 2004 10:48 pm

Haven't read the novel, but I was pleasantly surprised at the film. I thought it was very well done, very sardonic.

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RE: American Psycho

Thu May 06, 2004 10:58 pm

great movie.

christian bale plays the role perfectly!
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RE: American Psycho

Fri May 07, 2004 12:27 am

I still need to read the book, having read only a few small parts of it back in '93 when I was a junior in High School. I saw the movie though, and I guess I wasn't as impressed with it as much as the rest of you though.
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RE: American Psycho

Fri May 07, 2004 12:31 am

Very good movie indeed. The ending will leave you guessing......did it really happen or was it just his imagination.......
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RE: American Psycho

Fri May 07, 2004 12:32 am

Did the book go into detail about what he did with the two hookers using those "tools"? The scene in the movie cut to them leaving afterwards, looking battered and pissed.

Just wondering...  Innocent
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RE: American Psycho

Fri May 07, 2004 12:34 am

A buddy of mine used to bring the book to Physics when I was in high school. I remember reading a chapter here and there (because class was so boring), and I can tell ya, Homer71, it got into all sorts of details.

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RE: American Psycho

Fri May 07, 2004 12:37 am

David b. you beat me to it, I clicked on the link again to ask the forum that question.

After seeing it I was completely convinced that he didn´t, it fitted his profile perfectly to be rich, bored and too coward to actually commit those crimes.
However the contrary is also interesting. The social group he is part of is too distracted by money and artificial stuff to pay close attention to the crimes he was committing.

But I still vote for "imaginary crimes". The movie is about an American Psycho, not society.

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RE: American Psycho

Fri May 07, 2004 12:38 am

The book was an excellent read. I don't know about elsewhere, but here it was sold under the counter in bookstores -- meaning, no free display, and you had to request it by title.

The film was average -- not well done but not badly done.

I was disappointed by the omission in the movie of, what was for me, 3 key scenes.

1) The gay guy -- where he picks up the dog and slashes its belly open -- although the movie version was just as grotesque.
2) The kid in the zoo (from memory it was a zoo)
3) The 2 hookers scene -- that was not done to my satisfaction -- I was looking forward to one having her eyelids cut off, whilst the other had the acid, PVC tube, rat and cheese put up you know what.

I know they would be overly violent and graphic scenes for a movie, but I believe killing the kid really did set the scene as to how totally farked up this guy was, and the hooker scene would have shown his ingenuity Big grin
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RE: American Psycho

Fri May 07, 2004 12:40 am

Oddly, Leonardo DiCaprio was originally slated to play the lead---but ducked it once his agent read the original script. The first screenplay was far more graphic and less sardonic than that produced.

I thought it worked. Not great...but good...IF you had a clue that it was basically a satire.

The book was excellent.
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RE: American Psycho

Fri May 07, 2004 1:11 am

Considering what a difficult book it was to adapt, I think they did a great job with the film.
And Christian Bale did a far better job of being Patrick Bateman than 'Ladyboy DiCaprio' could ever have managed.

Huey Lewis, of Huey Lewis and the News infamy, objected to one of his crap records being used as the backdrop to one of the killings, clearly he's never read the book and/or has no understanding of satire.

I brought the book when it came out, and it's a favorite still.
Hilarious stuff, it's savage satire on a base level....but I like it!
Bateman's error filled chapters on his favorite bands really make me laugh, the worst of the decades music through the eyes of a loathsome character.

Of course the savagery in the book got all the attention, but I enjoy the whole book, all the petty one-upmanship between yuppies, the vacant obsession with material gain, Bateman's long meditations on correct shaving and skin-care products, or Hi-Fis, or fitness regimes, all the way through to what are the best accessories in the shape of firearms.

After I first read it, my then girlfriend borrowed it, about two years later after all her friends had read it too I finally got it back, I noticed that the most heavily folded pages were of the sex and violence scenes......hmmm, (I used a bookmark).

Ellis originally did research into the NY Yuppies in the late 80's, thinking of a more conventional book, until he saw up close their utter self absorption, callous attitudes, huge egos and monumental vanity, so it turned into the blackest kind of satire.

Want to read about the 80's?
Sod 'Bonfire Of the Vanities', try 'American Psycho', it's the real deal.

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RE: American Psycho

Fri May 07, 2004 5:24 am

It was funny because I caught Empire of the Sun this weekend on cable (another great movie). It's hard to believe that's the same Christian Bale!.

I always get a huge kick out of American Psycho for two reasons:

1. the huge cell phone size in the 80's...
2. get a bunch of lawyers together and they WILL compare business card quality.
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RE: American Psycho

Fri May 07, 2004 5:40 am

Christian Bale is going to kick shit in Batman Begins (shooting now) along with the ridiculous cast they have lined up. Look it up on IMDB...

American Psycho is definitely a solid film. The Phil Collins scenes with his monologue about the songs are hilarious along with the Marcus character. I do think they could have done a better job casting the supporting actors, though. Not much from them. I have the DVD but haven't watched it in some time. I may have to.

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