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"No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sat May 22, 2004 3:54 am

Over the last three days, Israelis have:

1. killed over 44, Palestinians including many children,
2. critically maimed 189,
3. injured 568,
4. destroyed over a hundred homes,
5. created thousands of homeless people,
6. illegally detained 54 Palestinians including women and a 15 year old boy
7. damaged Rafah's main hospital
8. destroyed cars
9. tore up main and secondary roads
10. plunged the Rafah camp into darkness after destroying electricity supplies
11. destroyed water pumps providing water for civilians
12. attacked Gaza zoo killing and stealing many animals

and now Israeli Army spokeswoman Maj. Sharon Feingold said "No tunnels have been found", which is why they conducted this attrocity


Here is a quote or two from Palestinians:

"I hardly recognized my own street," said Abdel Rahim Abu Jazer, 42, a teacher. "I don't think an earthquake could do what the Israeli army did to this area."

"I came to get some stuff from my house but there's nothing left to take," said Sami Mekawi, 28, a resident of the Brazil neighborhood. "All I see is sand and rubble and torn-down electrical poles and destroyed roads."

I guess there is no end to Israel's state terrorism
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sat May 22, 2004 4:48 am

Translation: We have to bulldoze more houses and kill more Palestenians to find those tunnels.
 
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sat May 22, 2004 5:10 am

Remember Horus, peace will come now, okay?

Finally because of this campaign, Israel will live in peace.

The Palestinians are not angry at all. Hamas and other groups will no longer do suicide attacks against Israelis. The Arab countries will have more respect for Israel now that they have shown how much they care about achieving peace and how respectful they are to the Palestinian people.  Insane
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sat May 22, 2004 6:32 am

Was it an Israeli secret service mistake, or just another insult to the whole world intelligence?

I hope they will not try their luck to find them in another Palestinian camp later.
I mean how do they choose their targets? Is it evidance-based or what?

I guess this is war, and wars aren't a Lotto game? or is it in Israel?



[Edited 2004-05-21 23:41:34]
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sat May 22, 2004 6:43 am

So, are they going to compensate for the poor people, victims of this mistake?
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sat May 22, 2004 6:51 am

Is it the first Israeli war mistake against Civilians?
Have they ever compensated for their mistakes?
I know that the Americans do compensate for Iraqis killed civilians.
Do the Israelis have the same spirit?

I didn't say it would be easy. I just said it would be the truth
 
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sat May 22, 2004 8:00 am

Why can't they just get round a table and act like grown men. The Isrealis need to get rid of the settlements and just pull back into Israel. The Palestinians need to elect a decent government who can communicate at statesman level and establish a real democracy with a good tourist industry (for religious as wellas regular tourists) and a solid infrastructure, The Arab nations, along with the UN, EU and USA need to plow funds into a central trust for Palestine. Open up a McDonalds in Ramala, a virgin megastore in Bethlehem, build a state of the art International Airport in Palestine for the first time. Tourists from all over the world could visit the holy sites, immerse themselves in 7000 years of history, as well as Arab culture, food and art. Israeli and Palestine could contest their rivalry on the football pitch with an annual football tournament between middle eastern football teams (like the European Cup), Israeli and Palestinian professors would share data on ancient relics found in both regions dated back to biblical times and further, Palestine would be like Israel's little brother under the wing of it's more experienced neighbor, learning how to deal on the world stage and forge relationships with older nations, untlimately leading to peace for the region. Eventually the two states becoming staunch allies, Israel importing Palestinian labor and produce, Palestine hosting Jewish religious festivals at the tomb of Abraham and having leading Israeli academics teaching at it's many universities..........................Oh wait, I'm daydreaming again, I really weep for this region, I wish, hope and pray that they sort this out and stop the bickering!
 
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sat May 22, 2004 8:09 am

Well said Gc. Its not a dream .. It must happen
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sat May 22, 2004 9:00 am

Where did you hear this Horus?
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sat May 22, 2004 9:09 am

Jutes85, UK politcal programme called Newsnight on the BBC2 with Jeremy Paxman today. He was debating the latest event with her and a Palestinian analyst.
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sat May 22, 2004 9:40 am

I only heard of this: http://www.labournet.net/world/0310/rafah2.html, but that was last year. Hmmm.
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sat May 22, 2004 8:47 pm

Jutes85, Yes I am well a where that Israel has committed countless attrocities
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sat May 22, 2004 11:36 pm

Just for the record Horus, Israel found over 90 tunnels in Rafah in the past 3.5 years.
If the Palestinian authority and Egypt were doing what they were supposed to do, Israel wasn't there.
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sat May 22, 2004 11:45 pm

And thus we hit on a key point in this whole Palistinian-Isreali conflict.


The Palistian Authority was expected to provide a law enforcement precense that would intercept the smuggling of weapons and sucide bombers.

They have failed miserably to do that, it can be claimed that they actually encouraged the opposite.

The only way Israel can respond is military not with law enforcement. And anytime you try to use the military as a law enforcement tool it gets very ugly.
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sun May 23, 2004 12:38 am

The Palistian Authority was expected to provide a law enforcement precense that would intercept the smuggling of weapons and sucide bombers. They have failed miserably to do that, it can be claimed that they actually encouraged the opposite.

Exactly! Yet, Horus and others don't say a word about the fact that weapons are being smuggled into these areas--Oh yeah, they support that!

I still find it ironic (and selfish) that these Arab members will support something like this that will add fuel to the fire, and will result in many more innocent Palestinians dying when Israel responds. And we know they will.
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sun May 23, 2004 12:56 am

The Arab nations, along with the UN, EU and USA need to plow funds into a central trust for Palestine.

Why should anyone other than the Arab nations that are actually in/border Palestine (wherever that nebulous "country" actually exists) pay?
 
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sun May 23, 2004 1:27 am

Horus,
Take a guess what happened few hours ago in Rafah.
If you can’t I’ll give you a hint, your topic title should be change.

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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sun May 23, 2004 1:41 am

I didn't say it would be easy. I just said it would be the truth
 
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sun May 23, 2004 2:23 am

And, another daily anti-Israel thread is started by Horus.

Ah, the world is right.  Big grin
 
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sun May 23, 2004 2:46 am

Cedarwings, Looks like you found the only 3 year old killed that day in the entire world.  Insane I like how you try to manipulate it against Israel. Yes, innocent people die, in a war, people die.

What about the mass killings and war in Sudan? So far 60,000 people have died, but who really gives a shit, right, they are only negro's and they can survive without food and water.
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sun May 23, 2004 2:51 am

The Arab nations, along with the UN, EU and USA need to plow funds into a central trust for Palestine.
****

They did this for many years, well Europe and the US did most of it, the Arab nations did very little. Problem is that Arafat spent most of it on weapons and his friends, and thus even Europe has stopped giving him much money now.

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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sun May 23, 2004 3:15 am

We should just take ALL the weapons away from both sides, build a HUGE wall right round Israel and Palestine, and leave them to it. Come back in 100 years and see who won. They're like little kids, both sides - its pathetic. I have no sympathy for either side to be honest. It sickens me when innocent bystanders get killed, but what the FUCK is one supposed to do about it ? Neither side is right, neither side is wrong - they just need to grow up and get over it.
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sun May 23, 2004 3:17 am

Jutes,

Consider this a reply to your silly comment.

Israel has to understand that killing Palestinian innocent civilian is no better than hammas killing innocent Israelis, people don't see Israel anymore a country of freedom and civil rights as let's say "before".
The mulberry leaf has fallen, and for me, as for the whole international community, the Israeli and the Palestinians are equal now in term of killing and murdering.

I consider that Israel has to reconsider its policy, terror brings terror, killing brings killing and blood brings blood.

Find any round table, get rid of Arafat and Sharon, share this small piece of land and live together peacefully.
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sun May 23, 2004 3:22 am

build a HUGE wall right round Israel and Palestine, and leave them to it

They are doing that. Except, the Arab World is going crazy over it because they are beginning to realize that Palestinians won't be able to use suicide bombings anymore.


Israel has to understand that killing Palestinian innocent civilian is no better than hammas killing innocent Israelis, people don't see Israel anymore a country of freedom and civil rights as let's say "before".
The mulberry leaf has fallen, and for me, as for the whole international community, the Israeli and the Palestinians are equal now in term of killing and murdering.


Oh please. Are you telling me that you saw Israel in a positive light before 2000? Arabs have always hated Israel, and in the last few years they have been using the Palestinian situation as the reason why. There will always be something.

And you write about Israel killing Palestinian civilians as if they kill them the same way Palestinians kill Israelis. IT IS NOT THE SAME! Trying to kill a terrorist leader who hides amongst children, and intentionally killing civilians is not the same, no matter how you cut it.
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sun May 23, 2004 3:22 am

I consider that Israel has to reconsider its policy, terror brings terror, killing brings killing and blood brings blood.

So when Hamas kills, its okay because they are a crazy oganization, but when Israel kills in retaliation, its not okay because they are a democratic nation and therefore are the "good guys".

I say Israel should just pull back from the GS and WB and build a wall around both of them so that no-one can get in. If they want their freedom, let them have it, but if their lives don't improve, don't come crying back to Israel for help.
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sun May 23, 2004 3:24 am

Rjpieces - re "build a HUGE wall right round Israel and Palestine, and leave them to it"

You misunderstand me - the wall should be built around BOTH Israel and Palestinian territory, including both countries, to allow them to scrap it out amongst themselves without bothering civilised countries who quite frankly are sick to death of the whole sorry business.
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sun May 23, 2004 3:27 am

the wall should be built around BOTH Israel and Palestinian territory, including both countries, to allow them to scrap it out amongst themselves without bothering civilised countries who quite frankly are sick to death of the whole sorry business

If you let both countries scrap it out, Israel would win in less then a week.
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sun May 23, 2004 3:29 am

That's why I suggest taking all the weapons away first - let them chuck rocks at each other (I believe they do that anyway, but you can't take the rocks away).
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sun May 23, 2004 3:37 am

Rjpieces - re "build a HUGE wall right round Israel and Palestine, and leave them to it"
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Not sure what the big deal with the wall is. There is a border wall with all sorts of painful deterrants on it between the USA and Mexico, and there is also one that runs between parts of Canada and the US and no one seems to complain about those, and these countries are not even at war.

Just seems like more of the "no matter what you do, we'll find a reason to complain" stuff to me
 
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sun May 23, 2004 3:46 am

Rj,

Israel killing Palestinian civilians as if they kill them the same way Palestinians kill Israelis. IT IS NOT THE SAME!

It is already the same dear, (Hamas kills Israelis in one shot, whereas it took Israel 3 days to kill 44 and injure 568 innocents), so please stop hiding behind your finger.

The current Israeli government = Hamas.

Both are playing the "Killing of innocents championship" , but in this championship both players are losers.

Go back to the international laws and the UN resolutions and stop this holocaust.


[Edited 2004-05-22 21:01:16]
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sun May 23, 2004 3:53 am

The current Israeli government = Hamas.

Therefore:

Current American, British Government = Al Queda.
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sun May 23, 2004 3:58 am

Jutes,

I rank your analytical abilities a zero.
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sun May 23, 2004 4:01 am

Jutes,

I rank your analytical abilities a zero.


 Insane
 
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sun May 23, 2004 4:05 am

Number of threads started by Horus: 4
Number of threads started by Horus to complain about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict: 3

Hmm 75% "obsession ratio". Either,
a) Get a life
b) Consolidate all the whining into a single, ultimate, "Israel=Pure Evil" thread


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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sun May 23, 2004 4:06 am

Gee Cedarwings, you live in Lebanon, you hate Israel, I wonder why you think the Israel's are no better then Hamas?  Insane
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sun May 23, 2004 4:30 am

Jutes,

I did never say that Israel = Hamas.

I said " The current Israeli government = Hamas.

I didn't say it would be easy. I just said it would be the truth
 
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sun May 23, 2004 5:37 am

Israel has to understand that killing Palestinian innocent civilian is no better than hammas killing innocent Israelis, people don't see Israel anymore a country of freedom and civil rights as let's say "before".

Of course it has to but Hamas' stated goal is the complete destruction of the Israeli state.For a supposed non-political entity they are showing a lot of interest in filling the power vacuum that the PA are creating.
 
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sun May 23, 2004 6:04 am

Artsyman,
Are those fences and walls with watch towers and electrical charges, and do they split up complete cities and isolate them (Qalqilyah)? Are they causing destruction to American, Canadian or Mexican homes? It reminds me of the Berlin Wall very much. They are isolating us from the rest of the world - for gods sake how would you like having your home destroyed so a wall can be built? Or your city/town to be surrounded completley by a wall so only one road connects it to the outside world?

Oh by the way, a 3 year old girl was shot in the head today by Israeli soldiers - im not saying its on purpose but look at the damage this is causing. So is it justifying to tear up hundreds of homes to find a few tunnels? Or killing woman, children, and many innocent civilians? Is this their fault?

LY744 - I would hardly call 3 threads an obbsession.

Cedarwings -I rank your analytical abilities a zero.

Why did you give him such a high rating? He isnt worth wasting your energy on.
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"No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sun May 23, 2004 6:51 am


There is something quite spooky in this Gaza business. The Israelis are there looking for tunnels, coming from where? Egypt. If it is true what the Israelis tell us, there is a massive weapons smuggling between Egypt and Palestinians. So I wonder why Egypt is not considered part of an "axis of evil", a terrorist supporter country or similar...
Following Bush or Sharon logic, the US should be invading Egypt (like Irak), or at least putting sanctions (like Syria). Maybe this does not happen because Egypt is an allied of the US? What makes their behaviour acceptable, and not other countries? Or maybe the current Govt hasn't yet noticed? What is the reason of this double standard?
 
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Sun May 23, 2004 10:17 am

Why did you give him such a high rating? He isnt worth wasting your energy on.

I just like when Arabs try to act tough on these forums, but in the end of the day more Arabs are dying because of their stubborness. When will they learn that they can't defeat Israel?
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Mon May 24, 2004 1:21 am

There is still a hope for peace.

Justice Minister Yosef Lapid, a Holocaust survivor, said the picture of an elderly woman searching for medication in the rubble of a home razed by Israel in the Rafah camp reminded him of his grandmother.

Infuriated Cabinet colleagues said that even if unspoken, the analogy was clear, and demanded he retract his comments.

The story:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040523/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_palestinians&cid=540&ncid=716

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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Mon May 24, 2004 3:13 am

I just like when Arabs try to act tough on these forums, but in the end of the day more Arabs are dying because of their stubborness. When will they learn that they can't defeat Israel?

I will "act tough" wherever I damn like want to, and this stuborness will not stop as long as the occupation goes on. A quote I quite liked from a poem I read:

But I will not rest, I shall never settle
For the injustice my people endure.

Palestine is OUR Land and there we will remain
Until the day OUR Homeland is secure.

And if that time shall never come,
Then they will never see a day of peace.
I will not be thrown from my own home,
Nor will fight for Justice Cease.

And if I am killed, it will be for Falasteen.
It is written on my breath,
So on your own patriotic words,
Give me Liberty or give me Death.


You will never kill the Palestinian will to fight - our stubborness is all we have and it will never go away.
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Mon May 24, 2004 3:41 am

Just read on Belgian television (that's right read: on teletext  Smile/happy/getting dizzy) an Israeli cabinet member (I think it was the Minister of Justice) apparently said he immediately had to think of the awful pictures his grandmother showed him of the Jewish ghetto his family lived in during WWII, after he saw a picture of an old Palestinian woman, looking for her medication under the rubble which was once her house... He was later reprimanded by PM Sharon for this.
 
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Mon May 24, 2004 3:53 am

Sabenapilot,

You must probably haven't noticed my reply # 40.
You will find there the whole story.

With such people in the other side, I do believe that there is still some hope for peace.



[Edited 2004-05-23 20:54:25]
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Mon May 24, 2004 4:11 am

Oops,; sorry, must have read over it! big Mea culpa, 'cos I hate it when things get posted 2 or 3 times!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Mon May 24, 2004 4:35 am

I will "act tough" wherever I damn like want to, and this stuborness will not stop as long as the occupation goes on.

I'm glad to see you have learned lessons from the past 56 years. You are doing your people a WONDERFUL job. Let's see how many more centuries until you learn. The occupation will never end, because your definition of occupation = The whole country of Israel.

You will never kill the Palestinian will to fight - our stubborness is all we have and it will never go away.

As long as it won't go away, the Palestinians will continue to suffer and Palestinian children will continue to be futureless. Very sad. I do not want this. And I know you don't. When will you learn that the methods of the past 56 years aren't working?
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Mon May 24, 2004 4:46 am

Rj, sometimes I think you enjoy acting stupid. Occupation, as in occupation of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. I mentioned before all we ask for is the CURRENT occupied areas, like the WB and GS. And again, Rj shoves words in our mouths.

As long as it won't go away, the Palestinians will continue to suffer and Palestinian children will continue to be futureless. Very sad. I do not want this. And I know you don't. When will you learn that the methods of the past 56 years aren't working

Rj - theres something you still dont get. There was no Hamas 56 years ago, or Islamic Jihad, or Fateh or a PLO. There was nothing. They werent around in 67 either (with the expetion of the PLO), and suicide bombings only started in the late 80s and early 90s. So you cannot blame all of this on the resistance - It has been building up for 40 or so years and then exploded in Israels face - a human being can only take so much. We stayed silent and patient for how long? The methods of patience and silence didnt work either, as we can clearly see, so please lets see if you have a good alternative.

Oh and by the way - Palestine - and by Palestine I mean including modern day Israel - will always be my homeland in my eyes. This does not mean that I want to drive Isarel out or any shit you might post about this now, it only means that this area will always be in any Palestinians heart rightfully ours, and this you cannot deny.
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Mon May 24, 2004 5:46 am

Justice Minister Yosef Lapid, a Holocaust survivor, said the picture of an elderly woman searching for medication in the rubble of a home razed by Israel in the Rafah camp reminded him of his grandmother.

Infuriated Cabinet colleagues said that even if unspoken, the analogy was clear, and demanded he retract his comments.


This shows again the growing antisemitism in the world! The antisemites have even infiltrated the government of Israel! Unbelievable! Unaceptable!  Pissed  Pissed

Now seriously, I hope Israelis start to see the light. It would be sad that this minister retracted and the more fascist members of the Israeli govt had a field day...
 
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Mon May 24, 2004 5:47 am

QR332, some people prefer to remain ignorant of the truth.

There was no Hamas 56 years ago, or Islamic Jihad, or Fateh or a PLO. There was nothing

Almost right, but there were jewish terror groups like Hagnah, Stern and Irgun (whose leaders later became leaders of the zionist state) who terrorised Palestinian Muslims, Christians and Jews as well as foreigners like the British.
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RE: "No Tunnels Have Been Found"-Israel

Mon May 24, 2004 6:36 am

Horus - I was referring to the Palestinian side. Rj talked about our techniques not working for 56 years so does this contradiction make sense? We were quiet for long enough but then we were pushed of the edge.

Krushny - lol... if this man wasnt Jewish himself he would be referred to as an anti-semite, but you NEVER hear anything about anti-mulsims or anti-arabs.
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