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Sun May 23, 2004 2:48 am

Don't you find this ridiculous?! The government wants the names and IP addresses of every person registered on supposedly, we're all criminals by being associated with a site that calls for voting machines with a paper trail, whose head has leaked many internal diebold memos, the effects of which caused California to ban Diebold voting machines.

Now we're criminals because, supposedly, VoteHere was hacked and we're all seen as suspects. Or are we really? Because that doesn't seem to be the real case behind this. It appears, at least to me, that they want our names and locations to purge us from the voting rolls this november. This government is so corrupt I can't believe it. What ever happened to democracy in this nation? I was born in America damnit, not Nazi Germany.  Angry
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Sun May 23, 2004 3:02 am

Actually East Germany was even worse than Nazi Germany when it came to privacy issues. But GWB and his cronies love it when the regular Joe wants to live the American dream...
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Sun May 23, 2004 3:06 am

Oh yeah... that source looks really trustable.
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Sun May 23, 2004 3:18 am

1st rule of engagement when you have no other argument:

Try to discredit the source.  Insane
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Sun May 23, 2004 3:24 am

Dude... its a tabloid... it's supposed to be scandalous. I didn't say the article isn't accurate... but there's probably more to the story. I'll wait to hear the rest of it until I make a decision. (Although if it is true like in the article then it sucks.)
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Mon May 24, 2004 5:16 pm

"Oh yeah... that source looks really trustable."


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Tue May 25, 2004 12:11 am

Isn't it equally as easy to say my source is credible and if you question it you're scared of what it says and therefore you're trying to discredit it.

If the source is credible, post a link to a mainstream publication and the counterargument is defeated. If you can't find a link in a mainstream publication, why is it wrong to question the credibility of the source?

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Tue May 25, 2004 12:38 am

If you want to run a valid survey you must be able to link the signatures of the signers back to real people, that's why they ask for your address and other identifiable information when you sign a political survey. Asking for the names and IPs is not unreasonable say to do that for an internet survey if it's true.
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Tue May 25, 2004 2:37 am

The Seattle Weekly (SeaWee) isn't a bad paper. The only I don't trust are their music reviews.
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