Not to change the subject, but yall you do realize that most of British Columbia by treaty should be part of the United States.
I need to tell the full story here.
British Claims on the area where based on Vancouvers expedition, however the Russian America company was the one that was establishing a series of permanent outposts that ran as far down south to Fort Ross on the border of the Spanish territory that was known as "California"
in 1925 a 10 year agreeement was signed between the Russian America Company of Russia and the Hudson Bay company that set borders on their areas of operations. The borders of each companies area of operations where defined and are resonably close to the current Alaska/Yukon/BC
Commencing from the Southern-most Point of the Island called Prince of Wales Island, which Point lies in the parallel of 54 degrees 40 minutes, North Latitude, and between the 131st and 133d Degree of West Longitude (Meridian of Greenwich), the said line shall ascend to the North along the Channel called Portland Channel, as far as the Point of the Continent where it strikes the 56th Degree of North Latitude; from this last mentioned Point the line of demarcation shall follow the summit of the mountains situated parallel to the Coast, as far as the point of intersection of the 141st Degree of West Longitude (of the same Meridian); and, finally, from the said point of intersection, the said Meridian Line of the 141st Degree, in its prolongation as far as the Frozen Ocean, shall form the limit between the Russian and British Possessions on the Continent of America to the North West.
The British where always very keen on violating the 1825 treaty between Great Britian and Russia that prohibitied the Hudson Bay Company from operating in Alaska, or more correctly. A number of outposts illegally within Russian America where established. Ft. Yukon and Rampart Alaska play this fact out. Both are clearly inside the 141 west longitude that still forms the border between Alaska and Yukon
In 1833 the HBC attempted to established a trading post on the Stikini River in Alaskan territory in 1833 to intercept Tlinget-russian trade. The not accepting the HBC claims of a trade monopoly the Tlinget sacked the Fort in 1852.
In 1867 the Russian Territory was sold to the United States.
A discovery of gold in the Cassier in 1870 brought the border issue to a head. Preisident Grant had a survey expidition that work mapping the border.
The influx of prospectors twenty years later headed for the Yukon gold fields really almost brought the two countries at war, with the Canadians setting up outposts equiped with Gatling guns for fire support at locations they felt the border was and sending 200 troops to occupy the area around the southern end of Lake Bennet. An area that the US recognized as it's territory. There is at least one case of a threatened raid on one of these outposts by minors, who promised to, "Shoot the Canadian flag down"
In 1898 negotiations between the US and Canada over the border broke apart so a tribunal was set-up to determine a border based on the original 1825 HBC-RAC document. That document set up trading areas, sort of a non-compete agreement. It was not intended to set national borders. As clearly shown by the RAC presence down the coast from Alaska to Washington, Oregon and California, they considered that whole territory part of their empire.
The problem is that 1898 tribunal used a document from 1825, and was only supposed to apply for 10 years. And the references to the purchase in the 1867 document where made to that 1825 document also. Hover the 1867 document also speciflical retains Prince of Wales of Island as russian territory. This island would later be ceeded over to the US also, but that cession should also have included the rest of the BC
coastline down to Washington State.
EDIT:To tell the truth I think the people of BC are an abandoned people, who don't live under the liberty of low taxes, Not VAT and the english measuring system. They are hostages to a unrespossive goverment half a world away, under a cruel leader who they can't even elect directly.
Too bad, Cretian isn't in office anymore, a photo of him and a MIDI of the Imperial march from Star Wars would be great right here
These people yearn for there freedom, to live in a society where you don't have to by gas by the litre, and I think that the US should commit all of it's resources, spritial, moral and militarially to ensure that they get it.
[Edited 2004-05-29 11:02:53]
OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.