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Islamic Militants Threaten To Behead South Korean

Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:29 am

Here we go once again. Is this the new hostage murder method of choice?  Yeah sure

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/06/20/iraq.hostage/index.html
 
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RE: Islamic Militants Threaten To Behead South Korean

Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:47 am

WHAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Crying I'm Korean, by the way.
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RE: Islamic Militants Threaten To Behead South Korean

Mon Jun 21, 2004 11:11 am

He'll most likely be killed, whether the Koreans give in to their demands or not.

And I find it interesting that the threats are aired on TV, but not the tapes of the actual executions - at least, not as far as I've seen on US and Canadian stations.

By contrast, some rather frontal photos have been plastered all over of the abuse and so on at Abu Ghraib, but when it comes to the beheading of Daniel Pearl, Nick Berg and so on.... we apparently can't handle the truth.
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RE: Islamic Militants Threaten To Behead South Korean

Mon Jun 21, 2004 11:18 am


I agree with Goose, we need to air the tapes, videos, everything they make of it in order to really show our "sensitive" society the images and atrocities of these savages.
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RE: Islamic Militants Threaten To Behead South Korean

Mon Jun 21, 2004 11:24 am

I'm not sure what's worse. Threats of decapitation or of "Shock and Awe". Killing is killing. However these news releases attempt to tug at the heart strings.

I personally believe that it is best not to negotiate with terrorists, I say, leave Iraq alone, just like they should have at first. Let the place implode. Just provide enough oversight and securtity to prevent the whole mess from affecting other countries.
 
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RE: Islamic Militants Threaten To Behead South Korean

Mon Jun 21, 2004 11:38 am

I agree with Goose, we need to air the tapes, videos, everything they make of it in order to really show our "sensitive" society the images and atrocities of these savages.

I'd advise caution, though, as the reaction to said video would be unpredictable. For example, the videos of these folks decapitating a defenseless man (and not a soldier, but someone who was there working to rebuild the country and its infrastructure) might incite some blood lust in the populace and cause support to swell for action and the military presence in Iraq.

Maybe.

Or, it might swing the other way and bring disgust and a overwhelming desire for an immediate pull-out from Iraq from the people viewing at home.

And the fact that it's not a sure thing in terms of which reaction it'll illicit, might very well be the reason why the large media outlets don't play them on the air.

Now, in studying enlistment and War Bond posters in the Allied Nations during past wars, I've come to the conclusion that winning wars and gaining public support for military ventures requires a little blood lust and ire to be raised in the general populace. A good example is this one, from the First World War... and just after the sinking of the Lusitania;



On display in the exhibition is arguably the most famous of all World War I posters, simply entitled Enlist. Created by illustrator Fred Spear in 1915 before the United States committed its participation to the War already raging in Europe, this emotional poster depicts the drowning of a young mother clutching onto an infant with only the word "enlist" shown below in bold letters. It was designed to build upon prevailing American sentiments after Germany sank the passenger ship Lusitania, killing over 1,200 innocent civilians and children - - 128 of which were Americans. The Enlist poster encouraged the voluntary enlistment of Americans to aid in the war against Germany.
http://www.lambertcastle.org/posters.html

Now, as a young man in 1915 .... wouldn't that just rub salt in the wound and make you want to exact revenge against the "savages" who did that?

And that was the point..... and that might be something that the aforementioned media outlets are afraid to touch. Why? Well.....
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RE: Islamic Militants Threaten To Behead South Korean

Mon Jun 21, 2004 12:33 pm

Going into Iraq was surely arguable, but let's leave that aside.

After being there, spending lots of our own money, after importing oil at ripoff prices and after MANY AMERICAN LIVES LOST both civillian and military and on top of that having members of their newly elect council/government ASSASSINATED - I don't see why we're still there!

It's clear that A LOT of the Iraqis don't want us there, and don't want their new government there, so why bother pouring money down the drain?
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RE: Islamic Militants Threaten To Behead South Korean

Mon Jun 21, 2004 12:45 pm

It's clear that A LOT of the Iraqis don't want us there, and don't want their new government there, so why bother pouring money down the drain?

It doesn't take a lot of folks to cause the problems you describe. I'd say that the vast majority want stability and peace to return to their country - and many of those see the Coalition as the best means to get to that point. The violent minority - the "insurgency" - cows many of the population into submission and passiveness to their action with threats. It's a pretty common tactic of guerrilla fighters.

You only need see that video to come to the conclusion that those folks aren't above using brutality on anyone - even against their own people - to meet their aim of killing Americans and pushing them out of the country.
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