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USS Reagan Arrives And We Got Hundred Of Whores!

Sat Jun 26, 2004 10:21 am

Hi

The USS Reagan aircraft carrier just arrived to Valparaiso, Chile, and the whole city is crazy! After all, there are about 5000 marines, and that's a lot of money. Valparaiso is a beautiful British-style city, UNESCO world's heritage. The last stop of the crew was Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

Valparaiso is full of prostitutes, with US flags of the brothel's windows! Even more, some "girls" arrived from Argentina to "satisfy the demand". The restaurants, night clubs, Vina del Mar, Santiago's Ski resorts and everyone have its eye on the Reagan.
The population of Valparaiso is a mess! and this weekend is special in Chile (holiday on Monday), so many people will go to Vina del Mar -resort city located next to Valparaiso, 1 hour away driving from Santiago-

It really surprises me, even at embarrasing poiny, all the fuzz about it; after all it's a big boat, but all the media is covering, the US Embassy has coordinated the landing of the crew. I'm not sure why exactly is this.
  • Maybe it's our Latin American inherent behavior

  • Maybe because we have this feeling of "end of the world country" and we feel nothing ever happens to us

  • Maybe because this is one of the signs we are far of becoming a developed minded country


  • Today at the news a guy said some words to be remember: "let's hope this ship will never return under different circumstances"

    When this huge special boats arrive in other countries, does it always happen the same?
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    RE: USS Reagan Arrives And We Got Hundred Of Whores!

    Sat Jun 26, 2004 10:38 am

    When this huge special boats arrive in other countries, does it always happen the same?

    Probably happens anytime a CVBG shows up.
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    Sat Jun 26, 2004 10:40 am

    I am sure it's the same with cruise ships as it is with military ships.

    Thousands of tourists in a new city = Lots and lots of $$$$$.

    Many Caribbean islands livelihood is dependent on the cruise industry. 2-3 ships a day in your port can mean over 10,000 new and eager tourists that need tours, food, souvenirs, etc every day. If a cruise line pulls out, people will suffer.
     
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    Sat Jun 26, 2004 11:15 am

    After all, there are about 5000 marines, and that's a lot of money.

    It's actually 5,000 NAVY sailors....there's probably less than 250 marines onboard, depending on if there's a Marine Hornet squadron aboard...then there'd be 500-ish....

    This isn't anything unusual....ever hear about all the port calls in the Philippines? Po City, Subic Bay, Phillipines? Now that was the mecca of a Shore Liberty, so I hear...whole towns dedicated to horney sailors who hadn't seen a woman in months....maybe some of the ex-navy guys here can tell some good sea stories  Big grin

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    Sat Jun 26, 2004 11:22 am

    DeltaGuy,

    I believe Arcano's reference to 'marines' relates to the fact the word 'sailor' is translated as 'marinero' or 'marino' in Spanish. The US military service distinction between Naval sailors and landing expedition Marines does not exist in all the world's armed forces.
     
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    RE: USS Reagan Arrives And We Got Hundred Of Whores!

    Sat Jun 26, 2004 11:25 am

    How many people live in the city?
    Could well be it's less than the total number of sailors on the carrier and her escort group (at least the number of adults with an income).
    Their average income will be higher and they'll be eager to spend.

    That's one massive infusion of money into the local economy.

    Also remember that she's the biggest ship the city likely has ever seen.

    Then remember the political implications. Having a carrier berth and crew given shoreleave means the USA likes you.

    Last time one arrived in the Netherlands it wasn't big news, but they didn't stay long enough for serious shoreleave (and given the fact that it stayed out at sea and people were ferried to it by boat it's possible that any leave takers could have been flown to London instead).
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    Sat Jun 26, 2004 11:36 am

    USS Reagan Arrives And We Got Hundred Of Whores!

    I'm not suprised, everywhere Reagan went, the Republicans followed!

    Ooooooh, you mean THOSE whores...

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    RE: USS Reagan Arrives And We Got Hundred Of Whores!

    Sat Jun 26, 2004 11:38 am

    Pdpsol,

    Good call, thanks for the correction.....those dang spanish speakers  Big grin

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    Sat Jun 26, 2004 12:15 pm

    Deltaguy: I new about marines when I wrote it, but I forgot the word "sailor" and as PDP said, "marine" is veri close to "marinero". thank U both fot the correction. Yes... we blessed Spanish speakers...  Big grin  Big thumbs up

    Jwenting: Valparaiso actually belong to a system of cities next to each other, becoming a large urban area that is called "Gran Valparaiso". The total system hold more than 1.2 million people, although if you just consider Valpo. there might be a population of 500.000. This urban system is actually the second largest of Chile (the largest is Gran Santiago, with about 5.5 millions).

    Valparaiso was one of the two major ports of the Pacific coast of S. America (the other was Callao, Peru, the ever rivalring port for Valpo.) and one of the oldest cities of Chile. It's famous for its historic buildings, hills and funiculars. It is also the Legislative Capital City of Chile, because it hosts the National Congress (an hidious building and idea made by Pinochet). It is also the head quarters for the Chilean Navy. As for Chilean admininstration, the Easter Island belong to the Valparaiso Region (although is located in front of Antofagasta, about 1000 kms to the north)

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    Sat Jun 26, 2004 12:23 pm

    Guys, like it or not, regardless of nation prostitutes have been hanging around military bases for a while now.

    Just as a side note, you know where the term "Hooker" comes from?


    It is from US Civil War Union General Joesph Hooker, and was first applied to the caravan of prostitutes that followed the his Headquarters when he was put in charge of the Army of the Potomac.

    http://www.civilwarhome.com/hookbio.htm
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    Sat Jun 26, 2004 1:35 pm

    Any time a carrier group pulls into port it's MONEY for the local economies. The carousing thing is a tad bit over blown though. Most United States Naval personnel shore leave consists of looking for relaxation and sight seeing with drinking and spending money thrown in for good measure.

    Glad Uncle Sam can contribute financially to such a fine city such as Valparaiso. I have to mention also that Valparaiso was a "must" stop for many of the worlds navies in the 1700's and early 1800's.

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    Sat Jun 26, 2004 2:37 pm

    Capitalism at its best. The desire to satisfy rational self interest means sailors want to hook up on shore.
     
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    Sat Jun 26, 2004 2:56 pm

    Yes, it is not unusual. When my former carrier USS John C Stennis showed up in Halifax, Nova Scotia, a lot of prostitutes from Montreal showed up to handle the demand.

    Really, I think that Navy ships are good for a local economy in the same sense of a cruise ship. Those sailors will be more than happy to go on liberty and explore a little of Chile. They will spend some money there too.
     
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    Sat Jun 26, 2004 6:11 pm

    We just toured victoria, Canada last week on the USS John C. Stennis and im telling you, with 8,000 sailors in the battle group, the city increases dramatically. We were greeted by the canadians and every restuaruants, clubs, threatres all had signs saying "Welcome USS Stennis." Everyone knows with 8,000 sailors, they will spend ALOT of money on food and drinks as well as gifts. I know too many people spending thousands of dollars in less then 3 days while we were in port. I wish I was on the USS Reagan. I wonder how it will be, money wise, spending a week in Pearl Harbour, Hawaii next week.

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    Sat Jun 26, 2004 7:09 pm

    They sent you guys ashore at Victoria?

    Why?

    They should have brought that boat up to Anchroage.
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    Sat Jun 26, 2004 7:34 pm

    I was in the Seychelles one time when a US ship pulled into port. They used to use Kenya, but due to security issues, chose the Seychelles instead.

    Now considering that the total land area of the islands is about the same as Manhattan, and the fact that the little islands are a dream destination for honeymooners, they certainly had a impact. 4000 service men descending on the island for a few days.....

    Don't think that the islands had any extra prostitutes bought in, but every hotel, every scuba trip, every bar and every casino was packed out.

    I was on a work trip so I didn't mind. To be honest, I think we enjoyed the company. They were all a good laugh! Ended up getting drunk with them! I don't think the paying customers had the same opinion.

    I felt sorry for them. Is hard to blend in when you and 3999 other buzz cuts arrive on a tiny little island. Plus not the liveliest of places

    And as for the prostitutes, well, kinda to be expected. At least you know that after a few days, things will be back to normal.


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    Sat Jun 26, 2004 7:51 pm

    On several ocasions some years ago, I've seen US warships in the bay of Benidorm. Benidorm hasn't got a major port which can accomodate these large ships, but the US Navy just used the Benidorm Bay so their crew could have a couple of days off.

    Everytime, this was a major operation with US Military Police patrolling the streets of Benidorm along with the Spanish police and it meant a considerable boost to bar- en restaurant owners as well as the prostitution-business.
    I believe every single visit of such a large ship wasn't without trouble though, especially between 'British Beer Drinking Drunks on a Package Holliday Looking for a Fight' and 'US Beer Drinking Drunks With Only a Couple of Hours on Shore to Enjoy themselves'.

    I haven't seen any US Navy, or navy of another nationality, use Benidorm so their crew can have 'a good time'. I wonder why...

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    Sat Jun 26, 2004 8:55 pm

    L-188, Ancohrage would be nice. Victoria was okay for a port call. It was nice to see some pretty canadian girls. We were anchored out about a mile from the pier and had to take taxi boats from the ship to pier to get ashore. It realyl sucks having 2,000+ people trying to get off at the same time.

    One of our battle group ship got to stop in Homer, Alaska for couple days.

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    Sat Jun 26, 2004 8:57 pm

    I graduated High School in Homer.

    Occasionally they get the occasiona ship, which is good, ticks off the hippie's to some extent.

    I think it was the USS Ford from your group that made it up to Anchorage last month. Definately looked like a Perry boat to me.

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    Sat Jun 26, 2004 10:20 pm

    Hello All,

    I've been in Singapore when a US carrier group has come in. The CBD fills up pretty damn quickly and its worse at night. Don't know about the hookers, but I assume its a similar scenario to places already mentioned.

    On a lighter note, there was a tour around the carrier last time, though I missed it as the group was only in port for a short time...

    I once saw some Russian sailors too, though not quite as many all at once!!!

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    Sat Jun 26, 2004 11:13 pm

    A typical Nimitz Class Carrier when deployed with Airwing has about 5,000 Sailors and Marines, however I believe the Reagan has much less than that right now because they are not on a deployment but rather are moving the brand new ship from it's place of Construction (Newportnews Virginia) to it's new Homeport of San Diego.

    Since it's too big for the Panama Canal they are sailing it around South America, without a airwing.

    They probably have 1,000-2,000 sailors aboard, they are just moving it not conducting operations.
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    Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:31 am

    It will be nice for the US mariners to exploret their own little "corner" of Chile. I wonder how many kids wearing little sailor caps will be left behind?

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    Sun Jun 27, 2004 2:31 am

    Gocaps16 --

    Were you guys in Vancouver, too? Saw a couple of big naval ships in the harbour last week (far too big to be Canadian) -- looked like cruisers (but what do I know?).

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    Sun Jun 27, 2004 2:33 am

    Since it's too big for the Panama Canal they are sailing it around South America, without a airwing.

    At least some of the air wing is on board, they were doing war games with Brazil on their way down. I guess the Navy is using this as an extra shake down cruise.
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    Sun Jun 27, 2004 3:47 am

    Hmmm...

    Must have bipassed the Provinces then, I sure didn't hear or read anything about any US ships in the region. Maybe it is just a Chilean thing...

    Or maybe Argentina is not Latin American after all.  Wow!

    As for any XX migratory workers Arcano spotted around Valparaiso, I'm confident Chile most probably gets the visually better deal in the ongoing trade of these goods between Argentina and Chile....

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    Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:07 am

    Hey bud, you always had them. They all just came out to see the biggest baddest Aircraft Carrier on the planet and get some real Johnson.
     
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    Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:08 am

    Hola Derico!
    You are right, you didn't hear anything in your fully third world class typicall Latin American Country Yawn because, as you said, it was bypassed (I guess they realized the the only interesting side of the south cone was the pacific side  Smile/happy/getting dizzy ). But don't feel sad, it was not the only bypass, they made a stop in Punta Arenas, but the crew didn't land, so the leg was Rio-Valparaiso. As for the "international trade", ladies from Uruguay and Peru also arrived, Valpo is now as "cosmopolitan" as it was on its golden days!

    What really amazes me is all the fuzz: the media made special reports, some public health nuts offered them condoms, and som protestan bishops are in a campaign for not turning the city into a big brothel...  Nuts

    Aisplay: I can answer you that in 9 months. But who knows, maybe it's a good thing: the US authorities will look down here and they will note how many "sons of the American Freedom Innocent" are around, then they reconsider their decisions and we won't need a visa for visiting the USA anymore (the children could be bastards, but blood related after all  Big grin ) mmm interesting way for saving US$100 in paperwork!

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    Sun Jun 27, 2004 6:46 am

    Hey BoingGoingGone,

    Hey bud, you always had them. They all just came out to see the biggest baddest Aircraft Carrier on the planet and get some real Johnson.

    I do not believe these ladies' interest lies solely in the size or 'authenticity' of the US sailors' 'Johnsons'. I would hazard to guess they are vastly more interested in the size of the US sailors' WALLETS!
     
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    Sun Jun 27, 2004 12:10 pm

    They all just came out to see the biggest baddest Aircraft Carrier on the planet and get some real Johnson.

    Unfortunatly that ship, CV-6, USS Enterprise was broken up in in Kearney, New Jersey, in 1958.

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    Tue Jun 29, 2004 12:01 pm

    I went to ski today, and in the lifters I met some sailors. Of course I asked them this.

    They thought it was really funny, specially this prostitute issue ("not what I'm looking for though"). He told me it was the same everywhere. Next stop will be Peru, but he was not sure.

    I think those guys just prefered to ski instead of brotheling!

    Deltaguy: BTW: the media keeps talking about "marines"!
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