Banco
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Cricket Comes To The US - Sort Of.

Mon Jul 05, 2004 11:31 pm

Hmmm.....

http://sport.guardian.co.uk/cricket/story/0,10069,1254061,00.html

Don't think they have a prayer myself, but anyway.
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Mon Jul 05, 2004 11:42 pm

No way it will survive here in the "Big Country".

But I bet if they bring a team up to Crapchester, Mark will be the first in line to by season tickets.  Big grin

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jetblast737
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Tue Jul 06, 2004 1:15 am

Why not let em have a go at it,they might just see what they have been missing out on for all these years.I don't know about some of those rule changes though "Its just not cricket" as the saying goes.Cant wait to see a test match vs Australia and the US Presidents eleven.

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Banco
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Tue Jul 06, 2004 2:04 am

There's always been a market over there for cricket amongst expats or immigrants, especially the large numbers from India or Pakistan, but this initiative seems to be aimed at non-first or second generation Americans.

I can't see it. If football didn't catch on even when the silly buggers at FIFA decided to hold a World Cup there, I can't see how cricket would.
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Tue Jul 06, 2004 6:34 am

When Hell freezes over...
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Tue Jul 06, 2004 6:38 am

It's actually becoming a common sight in cities that have populations of immigrants from the Carribbean and the Asian Subcontinent. Of course for cricket to even have a chance, they'll have to jazz it up for American tastes.
 
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Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:48 am

I've been a proud Australian for a little over 25 years and I gotta say - I still don't understand the rules that govern this sport.

I get a headache whenever people try to explain to me that there are 15 overs per run in an innings before tea on the one-dayer under a 'baggy green' in the west indies.

QFF

P.S: Not a cue to explain the rules to me!
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Tue Jul 06, 2004 4:29 pm

I read the article and did not understand the terminology, but like any other sport, I will hold my personal feelings about the sport until I witness it myself. Does the sport translate well on television? The reason I ask is that I loved to watch F1 on television for years. Then I went to my first race in person about five years ago and I realized then that television did not do the sport justice. Baseball is the same way, best seen in person. There are many other examples.

"......they'll have to jazz it up for American tastes."
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'I get a headache whenever people try to explain to me that there are 15 overs per run in an innings before tea on the one-dayer under a 'baggy green' in the west indies." I have to agree. Now, where is that bottle of Tylenol Extra Strength?
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Tue Jul 06, 2004 4:44 pm

For our colonial cousins

The Rules of Cricket
You have two sides, one out in the field and one in.

Each man that's in the side that's in goes out, and when he's out he comes
in and the next man goes in until he's out.

When they are all out, the side that's out comes in and the side that's been
in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out.

Sometimes you get men still in and not out.

When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out, and
when he is out he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in.

There are two men called umpires who stay all out all the time and they
decide when the men who are in are out.

When both sides have been in and all the men have out, and both sides have
been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who are not
out, that is the end of the game!"
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Tue Jul 06, 2004 4:46 pm

I'm an American expat living in Australia, and I've become a cricket nut....but then again I grew up on baseball, which has a lot of things that translate (lack of game clock, pastoral nature and rhythm, bat-and-ball, statistical obsessiveness of fans, etc)

I think there's a real potential for it to take off, seeded by Caribbean and Indo-Pak immigrants in the same way soccer has gotten big as a result of Latin American waves of newcomers in years past.
 
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Tue Jul 06, 2004 4:49 pm

Howard,
No disrespect, but I think I am more confused now about that game than before. I will just have to go to Chicago and see a game in person and hope people around me can answer questions. It is a popular sport around the World, I would like to see it in person.
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Tue Jul 06, 2004 4:57 pm

I think you being confused was the intention. That little description is a well known cricketing joke.

Cricket isn't that complex a game. Like any other sport, it's only complex when looking in from outside.
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Tue Jul 06, 2004 4:57 pm

I agree - I whole confusion of it all becomes more apparent when someone tries to explain to me the rules.

Oh and Trident3, I am not your colonial anything. Big grin

With oodles of respect,

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Tue Jul 06, 2004 7:27 pm

I have said this on earlier posts, I only watch ODI's and I have given up on Tests. I think Cricket has the potential to survive as long as they introduce the game with ODI's or Cricket Max first before bringing in the tests. I remember watching NZ verses India in Cricket Max, a 3 hour game with high scores, that's the kind of game that gets people interested. Good luck for the game in America, I hope all the Americans enjoy it as us in the 'Cricket Nations' do.
 
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Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:10 pm

From the article in post 1 "..."Americans like sport to be simple and what could be simpler than 100 balls per inning?" Patel said...."

Ha ha !


By the way, is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?
 
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Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:24 pm

ZKSUJ, the Twenty20 competition is going on here in England right now. It gets huge crowds and lasts for around two and a half hours. The rules are not greatly different to a normal one day match, just shorter. But it is hugely entertaining.

Personally, although I quite like Twenty20, one day cricket leaves me cold. Test matches are the real thing, though of course there's no way that would have a hope over there.
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Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:54 pm


Haven't England just done a variation of Twenty20 today....more like Twenty-five25 (77-3 + 208-4). Curses that I didn't see neither Flintoff nor Strauss cane the Windies bowling, with 120+ coming in the last 10 overs.

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Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:56 pm

Shit David. What the hell are these codes for??
That is probably the most strange thing I have seen in here Big grin
 
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Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:59 pm

I went downstairs to watch it, David. Absolutely unbelievable. Flintoff had more of the strike, but Strauss was going almost as quickly, his second fifty coming off 34 balls.
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Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:38 am

I don't see how cricket is any more arcane and confusing to the newbie than baseball. I did after all experience the reverse in person (long time cricket fan, never followed baseball) - I went to see the Red Sox play at Fenway Park and was completely clueless about how and why the scores or batsmen changed, other than for obvious reasons like a homerun.

Test cricket will *never* take off here in the US. Heck, it barely even gets much popularity in terms of crowds at some of the original cricket lands, e.g. Pakistan. One day cricket might gain popularity, but its still a day long, and thats probably too much. Something on the lines of the cricket sixes would be a hit though, but at the cost of having 'true believers' (of test cricket) like me or Banco gnashing our teeth  Smile
 
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Wed Jul 07, 2004 12:45 am

I, briefly, watched a cricket match in DC a few years back during the Folk Life Festival on the Mall. They had an exhibition with two teams from Bermuda playing. It made little sense the me, and the commentator trying to explain it did little to help.

Though I suppose like baseball, it helps to have a few beers in you before you fully appreciate it.
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Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:40 am

I concur absolutely, Barfbag. Every time I see these attempts to jazz up the game I wince slightly. Not because I'm an ardent traditionalist, but because once you do get into cricket, Test cricket is just the best version. One day internationals are instantly forgettable, Test matches are not.

Though I suppose like baseball, it helps to have a few beers in you before you fully appreciate it

Funny you should say that. Test matches or one day internationals in many countries (probably not Pakistan  Big grin ) are more of an excuse to go on a day long session, with a bit of cricket going on in the background to occasionally distract you. On a nice sunny day it's sheer bliss.
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Wed Jul 07, 2004 4:32 am


One day internationals are instantly forgettable

I'm trying desparately to forget Vaughan's field placement but think it may be a recurring nightmare  Sad However, if WI bat like that all the time, it doesn't matter that their bowlers can be caned.

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Wed Jul 07, 2004 5:05 am

Test match cricket (especially the Ashes) is just the best. I just wish I could get Lord's tickets  Sad But there is no way on earth a game that lasts for 5 days and which will will likely end in a draw anyway is going to draw an American following! Having said that, they DO like Nascar, so you never know! Big grin
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