Horus
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Where Brits Are Going On Holidays ...

Thu Jul 08, 2004 6:32 am

I found an interesting article today in the Daily Mirror newspaper.

It showed how British travellers are moving away from more traditional hot-spots like Spain and France to more 'exotic' locations like Egypt and Bulgaria.

Here are some of the figures about the increase/decreases in passenger numbers to the some of the main destinations:


Spain: -20%

Greece: -10%

France: -10%

Slovenia: +10%

Turkey: +10%

Florida: +15%

Bulgaria: +20%

Croatia: +20%

Czech Rep: +20%

Tunisia: +150%

Egypt: +200%



I guess 'the reign of Spain is over'..... (heading of article)




Horus


p.s. figures were supplied by British tour operators


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RE: Where British Are Going On Holidays ...

Thu Jul 08, 2004 6:42 am

I also read couple of weeks ago that British tourism to Cuba skyrocket on the first quarter of this year compare to last year number, that is one of the reasons why VS is going to start flying to HAV
 
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Thu Jul 08, 2004 6:47 am

I think the reasons that places like Slovenia, Turkey, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic is becoming much more popular, is due to the low prices of everything. I mean, once you' paid 3-4-5€ for a large beer at one of the regular tourist traps, you'd die once you go to the previously mentioned places and only have to pay 1€.
 
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Thu Jul 08, 2004 6:56 am

My friends and I went to Bulgaria last month for a week. We opted for Bulgaria because of the low prices.

Food and alcohol is extremely cheap there, even at popular clubs/discotheques. This makes it a popular destination, especially for young people.
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Thu Jul 08, 2004 6:59 am

Plus of course many will want to put some distance between themselves and the nasty lumpen chavs amongst their fellow countrymen who infect more traditional destinations.
 
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RE: Where Brits Are Going On Holidays ...

Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:04 am

Hahaha, I know what you mean GDB (ahem Magaluf...actually all of the Baleric Islands)
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RE: Where Brits Are Going On Holidays ...

Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:31 am

"Spain: -20%"

Well I haven't noticed!

It's funny this typical dress code English families abroad have: Mom's wearing an ultra short skirt to show her ultra-white 100 Kilo (each) legs, the 12 year old daughter is wearing an even shorter skirt, a tiny top which reveals her navel piercing and she walks on high-heels (with difficulty). Her 8 year old brother looks pretty normal: normal Nike T-Shirt, his fathers' shorts, extremely oversized sport-shoes and a base-ball cap. Ah, and then there's Dad! He's put on, as if he has the same age as his son, the shirt of his football team! He also brought the British Flag in his suitcase and put it on the balcony of his Benidorm hotel the moment they arrived!

Yes, the British are funny!


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Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:34 am

"Where Brits Are Going On Holidays ..." is where I'm not going!

Sorry, couldn't resist.  Laugh out loud
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RE: Where Brits Are Going On Holidays ...

Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:38 am

Your just bitter cos you can't put a towel on a sunbed as fast as us!

We dominate the poolside now muhaha!

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Thu Jul 08, 2004 7:38 am

Who cares about pools, give me the Caribbean! Costa Rica, here I come! Big grin
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Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:08 am

Your just bitter cos you can't put a towel on a sunbed as fast as us!

I thought the German tourists were champions on this?

While on holiday in the Caribean some years ago, I actually saw a group of German tourists get up at 8 o'clock in the morning, go down to the hotel-pool with a whole bunch of towels, put them on about 8 sunbeds, have their "All Included one-and-a-half hour breakfast" and only then go back to the by that time crowded pool. The stayed for about a week at the hotel, as did most of the other guests. The following day, they found their 8 towels inside the pool and their sunbeds taken by more educated tourists.

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Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:21 am

MYT332 - Hahahahahaha oh the memories! I can't tell you how many resorts I've gone to where every day at about 4am the Brits sneak out of their rooms and place a towel down on a deckchair on what (come midday) will be the sunniest part of the resort - then they go out and do their shopping and have breakfast while morning swimmers like me have to shadebake.

The Brits are complete towel nazis.

As Schoenorama says, the germans are pretty bad at this as well.
Shade is a real problem with resorts and beaches alike. I'd sacrifice a few palm trees (not otherwise there naturally) for some more sunshine around the pool. Larvotto Beach in Monte Carlo is an interesting case. Because of the high rise building along the beach and immediately behind it, big shadows are cast across it from about 3pm. Not condusive to brown people - especially when one has to battle the horeds of Americans, Italians and French in the mid mornings all huddled along the shore.

Still, better than Ibiza - never ever ever ever again. I could well have been in a big Gibraltar.

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RE: Where Brits Are Going On Holidays ...

Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:12 am

Those figures look like they've been plucked out of the air. Then again it is the Daily Mirror...
 
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RE: Where Brits Are Going On Holidays ...

Fri Jul 09, 2004 5:45 am

They're going to the most beautiful, classy destination of all:

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RE: Where Brits Are Going On Holidays ...

Fri Jul 09, 2004 7:17 am

Whoever said the Germans are worse than the Brits re the "towel" thing is off their head (although the rumour is funny! Big grin ) I have stayed at hotels all over the place where there are no German guests, and people are still up before sunrise to "mark their territory."

Those figures are likely to be accurate or close. Cosmos is to drop the Costa Brava, as has First Choice for next summer. Tui will stay (for the time being) as they have some "quality" units, but the perception is of a "pile'em high, sell 'em cheap" destination for parts of Spain.

People are becoming more adventurous. Also, the tour operators are paying hotels in some of the "new" destinations in the USD, hence very attractive prices for the UK market. Bulgaria and Croatia, amongst others, also represent excellent value for money whilst in resort.

Aloges
"Where Brits Are Going On Holidays ..." is where I'm not going!


You are lucky. Summer 2002 was to have seen charters to Brazil by Mytravel and First Choice, but they were cancelled after 9/11. A lucky escape perhaps? But you aren't totally safe. Sometime in the future..........  Smile

I also read couple of weeks ago that British tourism to Cuba skyrocket on the first quarter of this year compare to last year number, that is one of the reasons why VS is going to start flying to HAV

Tui is aggressively expanding into Cuba for Summer 05 and is seen as a major growth area, as was Bulgaria for Summer 04.

With regard to the Egypt increase, that is excellent new, as it is absolutely stunning there. However, I think this rate will slow quite drastically as they are to implement a new tourist hotel tax (as far as I have heard) which will result in significant price increases. Much of the traffic to Egypt has, in my opinion, been sold at unsustainable prices. I remember 5* hotels, for 7nts including flights, transfers and B+B for under £300. Very attractive deals, but possibly a case of tour operators having to give it away. If the hotel tax is introduced, expect a drop in capacity and a rise in prices to return to profitability and cover the increased costs.


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Fri Jul 09, 2004 7:27 am

Schoenorama...The British do not have a flag we have the "Union Jack" the flag of Great Britain and N Ireland it is made up of the national flags of each of these nations...this fact escaped many english people until fairly recently..now english abroad can be seem carrying the red and white St.Georges cross the national flag of England....no true Scot would be seen dead carrying one..the Scottish flag being the blue and white St Andrews cross..the Tartan Army the scottish football supporters carry as well the lion rampart flag....so anyone flying the "British Flag" is most certainly English
 
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RE: Where Brits Are Going On Holidays ...

Fri Jul 09, 2004 8:06 am

Worldoftui:

"I have stayed at hotels all over the place where there are no German guests..."

You lucky bastard... Wink/being sarcastic


Blackandwhite

"The British do not have a flag we have the "Union Jack"..."

I think I am perfectly entitled to call your Union Jack a flag when I have a giant 4 x 5 meter piece of cloth blocking my "Beautifull Benidorm Panoramic Sea View" and which is hanging down from the up-stairs apartment occupied by 15 extremely white and extremely fat construction workers with a heavy Cockney accent on a 14 day package holliday who don't do nothing else all day than sit on their balcony watching their unblocked "Beautifull Benidorm Panoramic Sea View" while drinking beer, throwning their empty beer cans (San Miguel, why do brits always drink the worst spanish beer available?) in the pool 16 stores below and, last but not least, using that same balcony and pool below as a public toilet and a perfect place to get rid of their 15 pints-and-a-curry they had in downtown Benidorm before they came home totally pissed at 6 o'clock in the morning, don't you agree?  Wink/being sarcastic
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RE: Where Brits Are Going On Holidays ...

Fri Jul 09, 2004 8:10 am

He's winding you up with Scottish nationalism Shoenorama, you're falling for it. The British do have a flag and it's the Union Jack.
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RE: Where Brits Are Going On Holidays ...

Fri Jul 09, 2004 8:13 am

"The British do not have a flag we have the "Union Jack""

That is actually called the Union Flag. It is only a Union Jack when being flown from a Royal Navy vessle.

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Fri Jul 09, 2004 8:37 am

as a travel agent all i hear all day is "got to be cheap" "want 5 star accom but got a budget of like 50p", "cheap cheap cheap cheap cheap" I feel like saying the west midlands safari park bird interview day was last weekend love.

why do people want the cheapest of the cheap? at the end of the day half the time you get what you pay for - and five star luxury accomodation with your own butler and private swimming pool is hardly going to be found in the Airtours summer sun for a fiver is it now?

come tomorrow when im sat at my desk playing holiday god, people asking me for silly discounts on something we're hardly making money on anyway and when i do give you the price you run to the holiday shop next door get a quote only for me to pricebeat it later by like pence.

cheap people spoil my day (though give me and my colleuges something to laugh at i guess) and what is it with the 1 adult 9 kids (all by different fathers) and the underage teenage mum complete with hoop earing the size of the earth all wanting me to pricebeat that holiday to benidorm by 10p cuz its just another discount?!?!

moan over now, cheap people next flight to benidorm boarding soon...... Smile
 
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RE: Where Brits Are Going On Holidays ...

Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:25 am

I love expensive holidays. I'd skip a holiday each year if it meant I got to go somewhere interesting and in relative luxury.
 
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RE: Where Brits Are Going On Holidays ...

Fri Jul 09, 2004 9:36 am

Did someone say "cheap"? WHERE, WHERE?!?!

Seriously though, I've been raised in a way that makes me appreciate the things that extra money buys. For example, I've never been to one of those infamous Mallorca all-inclusive dirt-cheap hotels a.k.a. "Palacio Concrete" or "Blocked Sunset Vista". And I doubt I ever will go there.
Call me spoilt, but the vacation I want is hardly ever the one the catalogue offers. Sure it's more expensive to go on your own, but it's also exactly what you want and way better than wasting your time battling for that sun chair by the pool.
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Sat Jul 10, 2004 3:57 am

ok back from another day at the travel agents and after serving another day of social no hopers i've decided if you dont actually say cheap during the sales conversation or mention direct discounts or something i'll give you a discount, Just for not making my blood boil! And as its family weekend this week at work guess i best get checking for them so called rip off scruffy cheap majorca all incluisve deals for the single mums lol



 
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RE: Where Brits Are Going On Holidays ...

Sat Jul 10, 2004 4:22 am

I like Spain... well, some parts. Don't really like the tacky/touristy places like Benidorm, but other places are great Big grin And Lanzarote.. brill place  Smile
I want to go to other more 'exotic' places soon.. but can only afford Spain this year after going to Russia, skiing at Lake Tahoe and having a few days in San Francisco  Laugh out loud

A few years ago in Lanzarote I stayed at a German owned place where all the guests were.. German. Except for about 15 Brits.

I went for a walk one morning and it was something like 6am and went past the pool.. there was not one sunbed which didn't have a towel on! And it wasn't the English people.. we all had frequent conversations about the Germans and the sunbeds because we were the minority  Laugh out loud Then there was the German karaoke that went on until the early hours while I was trying to sleep...

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RE: Where Brits Are Going On Holidays ...

Sat Jul 10, 2004 5:41 am

While I was not surprised to see that Florida was seeing an upswing in British tourists, I'm surprised that Las Vegas isn't on that list. When I was in Vegas back and April, I saw quite a few British tourists.
 
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RE: Where Brits Are Going On Holidays ...

Sat Jul 10, 2004 5:49 am

bmi

Sorry this is off-topic, but are things at LP going downhill fast still? Is it still price price price?

Mark
 
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Sat Jul 10, 2004 5:57 am

BMI - you have my deepest sympathy. You sound like one of the rare British TA's that want to sell their pax MORE. It must be very frustrating !
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RE: Where Brits Are Going On Holidays ...

Sat Jul 10, 2004 10:04 am

thanks for the list Horus,

now I know WHERE NOT TO GO...

Nothing worse that spending your holidays amidst drunk Brits! Give me a bunch of Germans instead anytime...
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RE: Where Brits Are Going On Holidays ...

Sat Jul 10, 2004 11:20 am

Where Brits Are Going On Holidays ...

Hopefully the dentist's office.......
 
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RE: Where Brits Are Going On Holidays ...

Sat Jul 10, 2004 5:36 pm

Where Brits Are Going On Holidays ...

Hopefully the dentist's office.......


Oh my God! How funny?





Americans. That's your cue to laugh. That was an attempt at humour. Apparently.


Mark

[Edited 2004-07-10 10:46:38]
 
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Sat Jul 10, 2004 8:23 pm

Hi all

The reason there is a -20% drop in British visitors to Spain is because they can never get there in the first place!

Striking taxis and busses, severe delays in and out of Spanish airports.
You could fly to the USA and collect your luggage while your counterpart will still be waiting to board the flight to the Costas.

And when you get there, salmonella awaits  Smile

Cheers

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RE: Where Brits Are Going On Holidays ...

Sun Jul 11, 2004 1:53 am

Worldoftui,


My, my. Someone is a bit sensitive to the whole "dental hygeine" topic.

That was an attempt at humour. Apparently.

Nothing gets by you huh?
 
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RE: Where Brits Are Going On Holidays ...

Sun Jul 11, 2004 2:44 am

Hehe Duce50boom

Just amazed at the whole originality of it all. I always knew that you Americans were miles ahead on the humour front, and yet again, you have proved it! Wow.


Mark
 
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RE: Where Brits Are Going On Holidays ...

Sun Jul 11, 2004 3:01 am

I'm detecting a hint of sarcasm in that last post.......
 
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RE: Where Brits Are Going On Holidays ...

Sun Jul 11, 2004 3:11 am

Duce50boom

No biggie. Just winding you up (and likewise I suspect). Hehehe

Mark

BTW. Nice set of white teeth here. NOT false!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
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Sun Jul 11, 2004 3:26 am

It's all good dude. If Brits and Americans ever stop making fun of each other it's only to make fun of the French. And since this topic had to do with English holidays and not German army holidays, it's only proper to leave the French out of it.
 
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Sun Jul 11, 2004 3:50 am

it's only proper to leave the French out of it.

Do we have to? Damn damn.

 Smile/happy/getting dizzy


Mark
 
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Sun Jul 11, 2004 5:04 am

Hi all,

When in Tenerife on a "lads" holiday in 2002 we where on the balcony at about 7am having had a heavy night and we saw a load of Germans putting towels out on the sun beds. Another load of guys from the hotel (English) came past the pool about 5 minutes later and shouted to us and asked if they towels had been put out by Germans, when we shouted back yes the guys just picked all the towels off the sun beds and chucked them in the pool Big grin

How immature yet very amusing  Big thumbs up

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RE: Where Brits Are Going On Holidays ...

Sun Jul 11, 2004 10:20 am

I guess the stats are a bit misleading, -20% for Spain amounts for a whole lot more British tourists than +200% in Egypt. I can understand how these new destinations are excited about the influx of overseas holidaymakers, but is it really a good thing in the long run? Just look at the heart of Costa del Sol - is there anything really authentically Spanish left? Attracting posh, high-spending tourists is brilliant, but being host to twenty-something Brits who spend nothing but cheap booze is another thing. On CNN, Croatia is advertised as "Mediterranean As It Once Was" - I hope they keep it that way!

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