Alpha 1
Topic Author
Posts: 12343
Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2001 12:12 am

Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sat Aug 14, 2004 12:09 pm

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/13/moore.goss.reut/index.html

And we want this guy running the Central Intelligence Agency? ROTFL.

All you Michael Moore haters, flame away. I really could care less (I've never anything Moore has done, so it doesn't affect my view on this).

His confirmation hearings should be a riot.  Big grin
 
N6376M
Posts: 2310
Joined: Tue Aug 12, 2003 12:54 am

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sat Aug 14, 2004 12:14 pm

People's own words do have a nasty habit of coming back and biting them in the ass. I remember a certain President saying quite clearly, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky." I seem to recall a finger wave accompanying that statement.

I also recall a certain sitting Senator saying, "I voted for the war before I voted against the war."

The same Senator also said something about being in Cambodia on Christmas 1968 fighting some secret war while listening to a voice in his head which he identified as President Nixon though Nixon wasn't yet the President.

 Big grin
 
Usairwys757
Posts: 2609
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2003 9:51 am

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sat Aug 14, 2004 12:22 pm

NWA, I dont see why not bitch about that. You right wingers are just trying to sway everyones view off the topic. Its typical though, your blind to everything Bush is wrong on and you wont admit it.

As for Goss, I think its clarification enough when the words come from his own mouth. Yeah, he's really a guy I want to be the US's top spy.  Insane.

But yet, it wont surprise me if you guys find a way to praise Bush somehow on this issue.
Inactive.....
 
diamond
Posts: 3000
Joined: Sun Apr 11, 2004 8:01 am

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sat Aug 14, 2004 12:57 pm

Guys, enough with the name-calling. When you stoop to that level, you lose all credibility, regardless of your 'side'.

As far as the thread-starter goes, all subsequent comments should be made about Porter Goss - and whether he is a good pick for the CIA or not. It's not about Michael Moore, Kerry or Clinton. If the thread was about any of those people, then maybe the comments would mean something.

But if the subject is Porter Goss and you deflect it to something else, then it just becomes a big contest to see who can deflect the hardest.

Give it a rest already. Stay on topic or stay out of it.

Blank.
 
Alpha 1
Topic Author
Posts: 12343
Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2001 12:12 am

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sat Aug 14, 2004 1:02 pm

Ok, I'll stay on topic: if the guy admitted in an interview that he's not qualified for the job, then he shouldn't have the job, and it's stupid of him to accept it after saying that.

Any other takers?
 
User avatar
JeffM
Posts: 7569
Joined: Sat May 07, 2005 3:32 am

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sat Aug 14, 2004 1:08 pm

He admitted he would not qualify for "a job" with the CIA because he is not an "Arabist". He does not need to be one as the head of the agency. Duh.  Big grin

Maybe he should go stay at a Holiday Inn Express like Alpha and become an overnight expert...?
 
Alpha 1
Topic Author
Posts: 12343
Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2001 12:12 am

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sat Aug 14, 2004 1:18 pm

He admitted he would not qualify for "a job" with the CIA because he is not an "Arabist". He does not need to be one as the head of the agency. Duh.

Duh. If he can't get an entry-level job with them, how should he be considered qualified to run the joint? Seems to me, you'd want someone who knows the culture of CIA-it's strengths and weaknesses, inside and out-and not someone who says he couldn't get a job there. That doesn't exactly fill me with confidence.

And NWA742, I see you couldn't take Diamond's advice, so why not either do so, or stop your bellyaching?

Now, firstly, I understand where you're coming from, Republicans often talk about Clinton or Kerry in a thread about Bush. What you don't understand is that THIS IS NORMAL, AND IT HAPPENS FROM BOTH SIDES.

Horse shit. If it's a comparison of Clinton v. Bush, or Kerry v. Bush, or Gore v. Bush, then I don't have a problem with it. But it wasn't about that! It was about a Bush nominee, for Chrissake, and yet a RWAK still tried to turn it into some kind of referendum on Clinton and Kerry! If Clinton and Kerry have something to do with the subject, fine, but they didn't. That's called trying to deflect criticism, but you're too blind to see that.

Back to the subject. If this is the best Bush can do, I think he should start over again. Do you conservatives have anyone else you'd like to see as a candidate, besides Porter Goss?
 
diamond
Posts: 3000
Joined: Sun Apr 11, 2004 8:01 am

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sat Aug 14, 2004 1:36 pm

I have a question.












Has anyone heard about this comment that Porter Goss was quoted as saying?









Sounds interesting to me.










I wonder how he will reconcile that statement now that he has accepted the job.










I'm sure there's an explanation. I wonder what it is.












 Smile  Smile  Smile

Blank.
 
NWA742
Posts: 4505
Joined: Sat Feb 16, 2002 11:35 am

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sat Aug 14, 2004 1:50 pm

Fine, then clam up, stay on the subject, if you can, and leave me the hell alone, fair enough?

Fair enough.

So, who can you think of who would fit the bill for CIA?

Well for starters, nobody from the Democratic side.  Big grin


-NWA742
Some people are like slinkies - not good for anything, but they bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs
 
b757300
Posts: 3914
Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2000 10:27 pm

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sat Aug 14, 2004 1:51 pm

Alpha, you've really sunk low if you now have to rely on Michael Moron for your attacks. Then again, seeing how all we hear as cheap insults and attack from you, we shouldn't be surprised. You can't even debate the topics at hand. All you can do is the standard Democrat tactic and attack the person saying whatever it is you don't like. I guess when your position is untenable, all that is left is to try and smear the person(s) who is right. Just look at what the Democrats are trying to do to the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth.

If you think about what Goss was saying, he is most likely talking about being a field agent, something he probably is no longer qualified to be. As the head of the CIA, he needs to be able to manage and coordinate the agency. Something that takes different skills than that of a field agent.
"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
 
diamond
Posts: 3000
Joined: Sun Apr 11, 2004 8:01 am

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sat Aug 14, 2004 1:52 pm

" ... nobody from the Democratic side ... "

So much for taking the high road.
Blank.
 
NWA742
Posts: 4505
Joined: Sat Feb 16, 2002 11:35 am

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sat Aug 14, 2004 1:58 pm

Edit: Diamond, I wasn't being serious, hence the wink.



-NWA742

[Edited 2004-08-14 07:03:32]

[Edited 2004-08-14 07:08:04]
Some people are like slinkies - not good for anything, but they bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs
 
diamond
Posts: 3000
Joined: Sun Apr 11, 2004 8:01 am

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:04 pm

It gets to the point where a wink or two doesn't cancel out the rhetoric. Try replacing the wink with some real (and FAIR) input.

As you may be able to tell, I have just about had it with everyone competing to see just how unreasonable they can possibly be. Even if it is fun. It's just getting tiresome.

[Edited 2004-08-14 07:09:12]
Blank.
 
lehpron
Posts: 6846
Joined: Tue Jul 10, 2001 3:42 am

RE: Who's Ego Is Worth Trampling?

Sat Aug 14, 2004 3:16 pm

Since I haven't been keeping up with the news lately due to a full-time job, replying would be ignorant. However, no on else appears to have so I don't feel so bad for this...yes I'm blaming all of you...can't any of you folks 'be the man' and get this thread-discussion over with or is the last word THAT important to you??

The meaning of life is curiosity; we were put on this planet to explore opportunities.
 
L-188
Posts: 29881
Joined: Wed Jul 07, 1999 11:27 am

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sat Aug 14, 2004 3:20 pm

Considering these comments came from film footage Michael Moore took for his latest "Mock-metary" , I wouldn't put a hell of a lot of stock in them.

Who knows how they have been clipped and editied together.
OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
 
Mir
Posts: 19107
Joined: Mon Jan 05, 2004 3:55 am

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sat Aug 14, 2004 5:50 pm

He admitted he would not qualify for "a job" with the CIA because he is not an "Arabist". He does not need to be one as the head of the agency. Duh.

Umm, in case you haven't noticed, the CIA is going to be pretty busy in Arab countries in the future. I myself would like the CIA chief to have a decent amount of knowledge about the history, the culture, etc. That way, he can separate the BS that so-called "experts" give him from what is actually important.

Oh, and if you think he's talking about becoming a field officer, you're out of your mind. He's talking about becoming an analyst or something. his lack of qualifications for employment as a modern CIA staffer. And if he isn't fit to be an analyst, then he is in no way fit to run the CIA. Simple as that.
7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
 
jasepl
Posts: 3499
Joined: Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:15 pm

Alpha1, Mir...

Sat Aug 14, 2004 5:51 pm

How dare you suggest what I think you're suggesting.

So what if he's not qualified to run the CIA? Since when is qualification or capability a prerequisite to a powerful job like that? Haven't we seen proof enough that only having a pulse is? I mean look at his boss...
 
Mir
Posts: 19107
Joined: Mon Jan 05, 2004 3:55 am

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sat Aug 14, 2004 6:02 pm

How dare you suggest what I think you're suggesting.

So what if he's not qualified to run the CIA? Since when is qualification or capability a prerequisite to a powerful job like that? Haven't we seen proof enough that only having a pulse is? I mean look at his boss...


Oh, of course. I forgot. Sorry about that.  Wink/being sarcastic
7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
 
N6376M
Posts: 2310
Joined: Tue Aug 12, 2003 12:54 am

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sat Aug 14, 2004 9:41 pm

The world according to Alpha1:

Liberal (or left-wing as he likes to term it) = smart

Conservative (right wing extremist) = stupid, idiot, moron

The funny thing is how easy it is to get Alpha1 all worked up.

Of course Clinton's lie has no impact on Porter Goss's statement - it's just fun to throw it out there an what the liberal bed wetters go nuts. There is one substantive thing that came out of this, at least the liberales are finally conceeding that Clinton lied (instead of sticking with the argument that a lie about sex isn't a lie).

 Big grin
 
jasepl
Posts: 3499
Joined: Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:15 pm

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sat Aug 14, 2004 10:30 pm

The funny thing is how easy it is to get Alpha1 all worked up.

No. The funny thing is to watch the right-wing nutjobs get all worked up over nothing, drying to defend him to death! It's bloody hilarious!
 
Alpha 1
Topic Author
Posts: 12343
Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2001 12:12 am

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sat Aug 14, 2004 10:43 pm

I'll give you a Democratic name, who was well thought of, by both Dems and Republicans when he was in Congress: Sam Nunn. He was well versed in foreign affairs and in intelligence.

Considering these comments came from film footage Michael Moore took for his latest "Mock-metary" , I wouldn't put a hell of a lot of stock in them.

Of course you wouldn't, L-188, even if it's striaght from words that Goss himself said. You're so far up there, too, that you never let facts get in the way.

The funny thing is how easy it is to get Alpha1 all worked up.

ROTFL. Seeing that about 30% of my intention was to get you right-wingers all defensive, or to lash out at the source or Dems-and, like Pavlov's dog, you didn't fail me-I think it's funny how easy YOU get worked up, not me, pal.  Laugh out loud

Part of this WAS to see the reaction of the RWAK's on here; but part was deadly serious-we have a guy who doesn't think he's qualified, accepting the top spy post for this nation. At a time as we are in now, that is not what we need.
 
User avatar
JeffM
Posts: 7569
Joined: Sat May 07, 2005 3:32 am

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sat Aug 14, 2004 11:07 pm

" If he can't get an entry-level job with them, how should he be considered qualified to run the joint? Seems to me, you'd want someone who knows the culture of CIA-it's strengths and weaknesses, inside and out-and not someone who says he couldn't get a job there.."

So using your twisted logic, I suppose the head of NASA is qualified to build, repair, and fly the space shuttle? And I suppose he or she should be qualified at all jobs from floor sweeper to 'rocket scientist'?

Helluva job....
 
L-188
Posts: 29881
Joined: Wed Jul 07, 1999 11:27 am

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sat Aug 14, 2004 11:08 pm

Of course you wouldn't, L-188, even if it's striaght from words that Goss himself said.

Considering the hack job he did on Charlton Hestons NRA presidency speech, the comment was very appropriate.
OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
 
jasepl
Posts: 3499
Joined: Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:15 pm

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sat Aug 14, 2004 11:09 pm

Excuse me, but I'm just an ignorant foreigner (though, aren't we all?) but what's an RWAK?
 
Alpha 1
Topic Author
Posts: 12343
Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2001 12:12 am

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sun Aug 15, 2004 3:13 am

Jasepl, that's my new name for all the Bush buddies on here: Right-Wing, Ass-Kissers, i.e. RWAK's.
 
NWA742
Posts: 4505
Joined: Sat Feb 16, 2002 11:35 am

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sun Aug 15, 2004 3:54 am

Jasepl, that's my new name for all the Bush buddies on here: Right-Wing, Ass-Kissers, i.e. RWAK's.

You call every conservative/Republican on these boards Bush ass-kissers, right-wing nutjobs, etc. Glad you found a word to stick with. Nice "centrist" behavior.



-NWA742
Some people are like slinkies - not good for anything, but they bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs
 
rsmith6621a
Posts: 1507
Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:21 pm

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sun Aug 15, 2004 3:59 am



Not a Porter Goss bashing thread.......

After all Porter is just doing what the Shrub wants him to.......that is win votes for Florida.

Alpha1.......I thought that RWAK stood for Right Wingers Against Kerry.
Did You Ever Think Freedom Could Be this Bad
 
Alpha 1
Topic Author
Posts: 12343
Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2001 12:12 am

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sun Aug 15, 2004 4:07 am

It could mean that, too!  Laugh out loud I think they'd find it more acceptable to have what you said, Rsmith6621a, but I'm leaving it the way I want it.

You call every conservative/Republican on these boards Bush ass-kissers, right-wing nutjobs, etc.

I can think of at least two that I think are conservative that I don't put in the RWAK column: JetService and KROC. So much for your little theory.
 
NWA742
Posts: 4505
Joined: Sat Feb 16, 2002 11:35 am

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sun Aug 15, 2004 4:10 am

I can think of at least two that I think are conservative that I don't put in the RWAK column: JetService and KROC. So much for your little theory.

Wow, two. As apposed to how much of us that you do call RWAKs -- I'm guessing a lot more than two. Interesting how members from the hard left on here like Dc10guy, Randy, etc. seem to do the same kind of thing that you do.



-NWA742
Some people are like slinkies - not good for anything, but they bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs
 
Alpha 1
Topic Author
Posts: 12343
Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2001 12:12 am

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sun Aug 15, 2004 4:46 am

Yes. two. What's your problem with that? It blows away your assertion that i put ALL conservatives. I don't think KROC or JS are the ideologues that you, B757300. Jcs17, L.1011. et al, are. They don't just nod their heads, like you, because the GOP or Bush says something. You do that constantly.

And comparing me with a ultra-liberal like Dc10guy, who never met a Republican he didn't want dead, is pretty funny. Pretty sad on your part, since you can't see the difference, but also pretty funny.
 
NWA742
Posts: 4505
Joined: Sat Feb 16, 2002 11:35 am

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sun Aug 15, 2004 5:01 am

Yes. two. It blows away your assertion that i put ALL conservatives.

It proves it wrong, I wouldn't say it "blows away" my assertion if you do it to everyone but 2!  Laugh out loud

I don't think KROC or JS are the ideologues that you, B757300. Jcs17, L.1011. et al, are. They don't just nod their heads, like you, because the GOP or Bush says something. You do that constantly.

Think what you want, but I do not nod my head because the GOP or Bush says something, you are full of crap. I've told you before I'll tell you again, I don't agree with everything Bush has done, not by a long shot. I don't limit myself to voting Republican either -- I'm a conservative but I do not always side with Republicans -- if there was a better candidate that was Democrat I would gladly vote for him over Bush, but there's not -- Kerry is an idiot IMO.

But because I do happen to agree with Bush on many things, you call me a Bush ass-kisser, right-wing nutjob, etc, and that's typical of somebody who's very hardcore on the other side, not "centrist".



-NWA742
Some people are like slinkies - not good for anything, but they bring a smile to your face when pushed down the stairs
 
Mir
Posts: 19107
Joined: Mon Jan 05, 2004 3:55 am

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sun Aug 15, 2004 5:04 am

So using your twisted logic, I suppose the head of NASA is qualified to build, repair, and fly the space shuttle? And I suppose he or she should be qualified at all jobs from floor sweeper to 'rocket scientist'?

Helluva job....


Yeah, it would be. But no, that's not the logic. The head of NASA should be good at managing, but should also be well informed about astronomy. The head of the CIA should be good at managing, but also should be very well informed about what the main focus is going to be for the forseeable future, the Arab world, which he has admitted he's not. He doesn't have to be qualified as a secret agent or anything like that, that's just silly.
7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
 
jasepl
Posts: 3499
Joined: Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:15 pm

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sun Aug 15, 2004 7:00 am

Jasepl, that's my new name for all the Bush buddies on here: Right-Wing, Ass-Kissers, i.e. RWAK's

Thanks Alpha1! I'm not too sure about the right-wing nutjobs in America, but I hope for the AWAKs' sake that they're not anything like the right-wing nutjobs we have here. Forget kissing, I don't want to be anywhere in the vicinity of those asses!
 
Alpha 1
Topic Author
Posts: 12343
Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2001 12:12 am

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sun Aug 15, 2004 7:35 am

but I hope for the AWAKs'..

Get with the program, man! It's RWAK's!!  Laugh out loud
 
jasepl
Posts: 3499
Joined: Wed Jul 07, 2004 3:15 pm

RE: Porter Goss: "I Am Not Qualified To Run Cia"

Sun Aug 15, 2004 7:44 am

Get with the program, man! It's RWAK's!!

Sorry! But Ass-Wing and Right-Wing... Is there really a difference?

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: 1337Delta764 and 10 guests