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Backward Bureaucracy At Work

Mon Aug 30, 2004 1:16 am

Anthony Howell, a young contractor flew over to florida to give a hand to one of his good buddy after hurricane Charley damaged his roof. The possible result: a $5000 fine and a felony charge.

http://www.thejournalnews.com/newsroom/082804/b0128howell.html


Ah freedom!


Edited to include the link

[Edited 2004-08-29 18:16:55]
 
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RE: Backward Bureaucracy At Work

Mon Aug 30, 2004 1:34 am

This is absolute insanity.
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RE: Backward Bureaucracy At Work

Mon Aug 30, 2004 1:57 am

That is just beyond all reason.
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RE: Backward Bureaucracy At Work

Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:04 am

Look, nothing's been done. The guy got issued a citation, he'll have his day in court where he can present his evidence. It is not up to the police to try this man, it is their responsibility to enforce the law and leave it up to the courts to determine guilt.

As crazy as these rule may sound, as the tens of thousands of people who lived in South Florida after Andrew what they think about unlicensed contractors. As the tens of thousands that got ripped off and were left either with no repairs or inferior repairs.
 
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RE: Backward Bureaucracy At Work

Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:01 am

As crazy as these rule may sound, as the tens of thousands of people who lived in South Florida after Andrew what they think about unlicensed contractors.

This guy WAS licensed, just not in FLA. In times of distress, geographic based license restrictions should be overlooked. The cops COULD have looked the other way.

The guy needs a roof over his head for Christ's sake!




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RE: Backward Bureaucracy At Work

Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:17 am

Do you think it's possible that the building code in AZ is substantially different than the building code in Florida? The very reason that states have separate licensing requirements is that the building codes differ greatly from state to state and from region to region.

I don't think that you'd want a FL licensed roofer building the roof of your house in Canada - given that the FL roofer would probably have very little understanding of snow and its effects (weight, snow dams, icing, drainage, etc . . .)

This isn't limited just to roofers, attorneys, accountants, and doctors to name just a few occupations all need to be licensed in the state they practice. If a CPA in FL opened an office and certified financial statements of an AZ company I'm sure that they'd get a visit from the state licensing board.
 
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RE: Backward Bureaucracy At Work

Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:30 am

I dont disagree, but he needs a roof over his head! This is a fundamental need! Like food!
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RE: Backward Bureaucracy At Work

Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:56 am

"The cops COULD have looked the other way"???? Since when do the police have that authority? Do we want them to have that authority? Police looking the other way allows them to not only act as police (executive branch) but also as lawmakers (legislative branch) and to a lesser extend jury (judicial branch). That is a clear violation of the seperation of powers clause in the the US Constitution.


Let the police enforce, the courts judge and the legislature pass laws. It can be a pain in the ass, but the system is in place to protect us. And I'm pretty sure that it will all come out in the wash (as the saying goes).
 
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RE: Backward Bureaucracy At Work

Mon Aug 30, 2004 5:02 am

The police did the right thing. He appeared to be a contractor and he did not have a Florida license. But the fact is that he was not "contracting", so he will not be fined. It's a shame this happened, though, but enough Floridians have been ripped off by outside "contractors" to make this law necessary.

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