Espion007
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Throw An Apple Through The Window?

Thu Sep 02, 2004 9:59 pm

my friend recently thought about switching from PC to Mac (no idea why). Personally,i dont like mac compared to pc (this is after having to use it in school for 6 years), and i cannot see what exactly is so superior about mac.

Is switching a good thing? whats your opinion on it?
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JetService
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RE: Throw An Apple Through The Window?

Thu Sep 02, 2004 11:37 pm

We use both platforms at work and here is my opinion: First of all, it goes without saying even though some reason a lot of people deny it; both platforms can pretty much do anything and everything anymore. In the areas they are different; Macs win on interface, versatility (scriptable OS and automation), reliability and speed (MHz for MHz). Many people argue the speed, but bench tests consistently show a Mac edge in that area. Windows wins on price and popularity (more titles). From a business perspective and home computing, I'd rather have a Mac. If I were a 'gamer', I'd rather have a PC. As far as Internet usage, it really comes down to interface and Macs win for me there. As far as cross-platform, I can do just about anything on a Mac with a PC file (that PCL problem not withstanding), but not as much luck using Mac files on a PC although its getting better. As far as operating system, not many people that use OSX will tell you they like Windows better. I admit I'm biased toward Macs, but again, I use them both. If you love your PC and think Macs are shitty, then you may want to stay away from an Apple Computer. Because you know the old saying: Once you go Mac, you'll never go back. Big grin
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Klaus
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RE: Throw An Apple Through The Window?

Fri Sep 03, 2004 4:41 am

Using a Mac is just a whole lot less painful, and even fun, most of the time.

I could administrate / keep alive a Windows or Linux system if I wanted (or needed) to, but what´s the point if I just want to get my work done?

JetService has already given the primary reason why I would recommend a Windows PC to some people: Games. There are more for PCs.

Not much else beside that.

By the way, if you knew only older Macs, you should simply try again: MacOS X is quite different from the "classic" MacOS (up to 9.2.2). It´s a completely new development with only some aspects of the classic "look and feel" preserved. Everything else is new and now works on a Unix foundation.
 
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RE: Throw An Apple Through The Window?

Fri Sep 03, 2004 7:02 am

OK, I have used PCs and Macs for a long long time. I'm a hardcore gamer but I also work in an advertising agency.

Good thing about PCs is cheap power for great games.

But ultimately, the Mac is better in every respect: OSX is absolutely brilliant, every single piece of software works better than I have ever seen on PC.
No crashes (absolutely never as far as I am concerned which is a HUGE difference to the Windows world)!
Great design, great ergonomics. When using a Mac it just feels like these guys actually use their machines and know exactly what an everyday user needs/wants. Everything just fits!

And to be quite honest, there is something very satisfactory about the fact that you can live without Windows or Intel (not Microsoft, as Office is great on the Mac as well - and the new versions come out on Mac before PC as well - go figure).

Easy decision: If you're hard into games, stick to PC
If you can live with a little less games (cause the best ones still run fine on Macs), get a Mac (and an Xbox or PS2 for the gaming urge!)
 
gigneil
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RE: Throw An Apple Through The Window?

Fri Sep 03, 2004 8:27 am

Is switching a good thing? whats your opinion on it?

Its a great thing

1) No viruses
2) No spyware
3) No fucking with device drivers
4) Sexy hardware with a beautiful operating system

There is nothing similar about today's Macintosh and the OS 9 and previous days. The new Macintosh is a powerful UNIX based computer with all the inherent benefits.

From a business perspective, the case for the Mac builds every day. Businesses spend millions securing themselves from attack, when a simple Mac deployment reduces their risk to an easily manageable one.

If you're an actual power user, there's no comparison.
 
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RE: Throw An Apple Through The Window?

Fri Sep 03, 2004 9:48 am

I use my computer for internet and chat. So for that, I get no viruses, popups, spyware, or IE security issues. And with the student discount, the mac laptop was cheaper than a comparable PC. So switching is a very good thing  Big grin ..
 
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RE: Throw An Apple Through The Window?

Fri Sep 03, 2004 10:00 am

I use both platforms as well although admittedly I do a lot more work and spend a lot more of my free time on my PC. I mostly use my MAC for video editing and file storage. I do update my MAC technology although I am one step behind (have a G4 now, anyone want to buy a G3?) primarily because I think G5 are still too expensive.

Jetservice pretty much summarized the basic difference between the two. If you haven't tried a MAC, I recommend that you give a test run for a day or two so you can see its capabilities as well as its limitations.

One small feature that is lacking in a PC that I've gotten used to in a MAC is the print folder feature. I know it's very minute but makes a hell of a difference to me when I'm dealing with over 500 files in one folder.
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Klaus
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Trickijedi

Fri Sep 03, 2004 10:06 am

Trickijedi: I do update my MAC technology although I am one step behind (have a G4 now, anyone want to buy a G3?) primarily because I think G5 are still too expensive.

Not any more. The new iMac G5 starts at $1299,- (including 17" LCD)...
 
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RE: Throw An Apple Through The Window?

Fri Sep 03, 2004 10:22 am

I think PC's dominance on 90% of computers speaks for itself. I've had one mac and two PCs (both Dell) and I really can't see what the big deal is with the mac. Sure the mac I owned wasn't as flashy as the ones today, but my mind thinks in the Windows world, and I work very efficently with it. Whatever suits you works... I just like a multi-button mouse  Big grin

But ultimately, the Mac is better in every respect: OSX is absolutely brilliant, every single piece of software works better than I have ever seen on PC.

Just wondering... have you ever used XP Pro for an extended period of time, because I've never personally had a crash using it.

Its a great thing1) No viruses 2) No spyware

This is a great selling point, as the fact that Windows is so prevelant makes it a huge target. But, majority of Mac users (maybe a sterotype) know a shitload more about computers than the typical dumbass windows opperator.

I am amazed when I'm asked to fix people's computers that many with broadband connections have no firewall, no spyware eliminators, no anti-virus software, and are running IE and Outlook Express. Just switching to Mozilla, a safer mail app, and installing a quality firewall elimates maybe 99% of security issues.

If you're an actual power user, there's no comparison.

Problem is... few consumers are  Big grin

Sort of off topic, but I'd like to see Apple build a PDA. My Dell X3i Pocket PC with WiFI 802.11b, Windows Media Player, Note Taker with integrated microphone, full calendar/to-do list/contacts list application, Pocket Office, and a few other games.... is my closest companion. I flipin love the thing. But there are some areas it could be improved. Great battery life too

I am constantly running up against my storage capacity even with a 256mb SD card expansion. That 40 gig mini-hard drive in the Ipod would sure be nice in this device. And interface would greatly benefit from a stronger "one-hand" design that doesn't require a pen or finger for every single function.

The X3i is already rather stylish, silver metal with a 3" color screen, but I'd like some under the hood improvements....

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