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Fri Sep 03, 2004 5:45 am


If this happens to be the case this would be as big of a story as the return of Jesus!!
 
 
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RE: CNN Reporting;contact From An Alien Civilizati

Fri Sep 03, 2004 5:57 am

If a signal comes from 1,000 light-years away, doesn't that mean it was transmitted 1,000 years ago and is now reaching us?

BTW, I say the signal is from a nest of wasps that made the telescope its home.
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Fri Sep 03, 2004 5:57 am

Racko;

You had to take away all the fun!!!!!! Was that nice? I guess CNN did not want to link to that site.

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RE: CNN Reporting;contact From An Alien Civilization

Fri Sep 03, 2004 5:57 am

Probably just a dirty AF a/c.

But seriously, this could take a long time to figure out (or not, based on Racko's post). Let's watch the religious movement start re-reading Revelations for proof.

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Fri Sep 03, 2004 6:14 am

Other people are saying it isn't so...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/09/02/alien_no_no/
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RE: CNN Reporting;contact From An Alien Civilization

Fri Sep 03, 2004 6:19 am

The Beeb had a lovely report on the One O'Clock News.

Very interesting, but they didn't take it very seriously. They had an interview with someone that said it could 'easily be a fault in the detection software' - and he was a top scientist!

But interesting nonetheless.
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Fri Sep 03, 2004 7:30 am

Boy, I have got to listen to Art Bell over the next couple of days.

If he is on, it promises to be a good show.
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Fri Sep 03, 2004 7:42 am

Lots of things produce so-called radio signals... the Sun for example... quasars... etc. etc. etc. This is why they warn of radio disruption suring solar flares.

Don't hold your breath for the "first contact."
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Fri Sep 03, 2004 7:44 am

This just in.....

The signal has been identfied....Turns out it was a rebroadcast of Mork&Mindy from France that bounced off the moon.

The reason the US scientists couldn't idenify it, is that their TV's are set up for the NSTC format, while Europe is PAL formated.
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Fri Sep 03, 2004 7:53 am

If it's true... there goes the 'God Theory' and the God Squad...

Even if it isn't true... it's just a matter of time anyway.


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RE: CNN Reporting;contact From An Alien Civilization

Fri Sep 03, 2004 8:57 am

BN747 Dude, they've come back for you! Are you packed? Is Elvis flying your ship?

Hey, just because they find ETI does not preclude the existence of God. Nothing says that life was not created in multiple places at once or over a period of time. Perhaps God has been playing himself in the big off-off-off Broadway production of "existence...Nothingness into Being" (You know, the sequel to "Puppetry of the Universal Penis" starring Ron Perlman before he played Hellboy) and has been experimenting trying to get it right. Maybe there are dozens or hundreds or millions of other civilizations out there. I wonder how early of a model we are for life out there? Will we meet any aliens who are any more outlandish than Michael Jackson or Rev. Moon? Will they come and share a universal enlightenment with us so that jaysit and l-188 can sit at a table and agree about most everything?

I kind of doubt it, but I'll keep my mind open to the possibilities and try to avoid stepping on other peoples religious beliefs (as long as they do not include harming others in the name of their God) in the meanwhile.
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Fri Sep 03, 2004 10:45 am

Oh please! Spare me the God /Bible crap....save it for some kid still hooked on Santa Claus!

DI021... see my repsonse in the 'Why have a Religion' thread. I'm sure you fit squarely in either category #1 or #2...who knows..possibly even #3 too.

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RE: CNN Reporting;contact From An Alien Civilization

Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:06 am

The signal is being emitted from the GOP convention in NYC. And we all know that the message being broadcast is old and there is no sign of intelligence..

 Smile

Seriously though...its far to early to make any "alien" assumptions.
 
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Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:21 pm

oooo-eeee-oooo


Should be interesting if it is a real signal, but Im waiting for more proof.
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Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:37 pm

Real, too soon, too early ..we don't know what the hell to look/listen for. With 3 earth-like/rocky-core planets discovered this week... we now know (and many us have suspected) there are trillions of star systems out there. Only our human arrogance says we're the smartest and 'the one and only'...

Just for the sake of arguement as Jet Serice said..

"If a signal comes from 1,000 light-years away, doesn't that mean it was transmitted 1,000 years ago and is..."

Yep, it was sent back when we were wiping our asses with straw, incest was the norm, we were burning people at the stake for heresy, earth was 99.5% illiterate and the smoke signal had yet to be discovered!

(boy, does the GOP long for the good old days...)

So if 'they' did send it... and they could send such signals back then..they're 1000 years more advanced now. Odds are since then, they've probably came here.. looked at us..took a dump and left....swearing never to return! Wise move on their part.


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RE: CNN Reporting;contact From An Alien Civilization

Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:59 pm

The Arecibo observatory/radio telescope in Puerto Rico is huge! Visited in '98-'99.

If there's a signal out there they will here it, I highly recomend a visit to the facility situated in the Mountains of Puerto Rico.

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Fri Sep 03, 2004 1:03 pm

I thought James Bond blew it up
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Fri Sep 03, 2004 1:20 pm

Whether or not if it is true or false, I know there is a civilization out there. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if there are hundreds, or even thousands. Just think about it:

We Live on Earth, a planet under the "goldilocks conditions" (Conditions are just right for living)

The Earth is in a solar system consisting of ten known planets, one was just recently discovered.

There are thousands, if not millions of solar systems that contain one sun. We'll make this figure 500,000 solar systems in the milky way galaxy that are one sun solar systems.

There are hundreds of billions of galaxys in the Universe. Let's say 100,000,000,000.

100,000,000,000
X 500,000

The answer is:
50,000,000,000,000,000 estimated solar systems in the Universe, and not a single person will ever allow me to believe that there isn't another planet in the Goldilocks Condition.

5 quadrillion one star solar systems in the Universe. I am very sure we will never be able to make contact with any one of them, but I know that there is at least another civilization out there.

My facts may not be straight, but I'm only 13 years old, and I still have a whole generation to discover things and to be corrected. So sorry if my facts are totally off.

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RE: CNN Reporting;contact From An Alien Civilizati

Fri Sep 03, 2004 3:28 pm

Astonishing....a 13 year old has a better bead on what's going than .. how old is DI021?? 36-45? Hmmm.. no wonder the world is in such twisted state.

***cough***cough***religion***cough***cough...

Except Category 3..they're forgiven! Everyone else over age 5 oughta know better.


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RE: CNN Reporting;contact From An Alien Civilization

Fri Sep 03, 2004 3:46 pm

STT757: Well the article states "The signal, coming from a point between the Pisces and Aries constellations, has been picked up three times by a telescope in Puerto Rico." To me, it was a flock of geese at FL 330... US Gov't told me so.....

As for the great religious debate that seems to be brewing, I have a few questions. Why would god allow himself to "misrepresented" by multiple religions across the globe? If god created the principles of physics, and must also abide by them, how can he be "everywhere at once" when physics imply that the same particles of matter cannot be in 2 places at once? Why was god stupid enough to give us free will? If god came before man, and created him, what came before god and created it? Doesn't god sound like a lazy bastard, as he has been around forever....yet only only created the universe 6000yrs ago? Sure, he might have been planning out the universe, but what was he doing before that? Lazy being. And doesn't the fact that we condone others for being lazy, yet allow god to have so much time off, espcially when he created us in his own image, a tad hypocritical? Oh well....
 
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Fri Sep 03, 2004 3:52 pm

Of course god is lazy.

If he wasn't then he would have worked that seventh day  Laugh out loud
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Fri Sep 03, 2004 6:36 pm

Aliens and religion...hmmm, I think you guys have been watching too much "Contact".  Big grin





I got your alien, right here:






That said, the thought of another civilization out there is both fascinating and unnerving. We've been taught all our lives to be afraid of "aliens". WERE this to actually be proven to be a "contact" (highly unlikely), I can only imagine it'd have negative effects, i.e. people would get just a little crazy. I imagine the powers that be would want to keep it pretty hush, don't you? Or maybe I'm just too suspicious.


As far as the "God squad" goes. The discovery of extraterrestrials doesn't disprove the theory of God at all. It just blows a lot of "facts" from various religious books out of the water.

The one true FACT is that you can never prove that God exists. Nor can you disprove it either. Attempting to prove either will lead you to a Catch-22 wall every time. And if you're one of those people that truly wants to believe there is something after life; attempting to figure it out will cause nothing but despair. Best stay off the subject entirely. You can't prove it. You can't disprove it. Don't act like you can.

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Fri Sep 03, 2004 6:39 pm

Marvin the Martian could kick Stiches arse  Laugh out loud
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Fri Sep 03, 2004 6:46 pm

Marvin the Martian could kick Stiches arse


Somehow, I see Lilo capturing Marvin and presenting him as show-and-tell to the class.  Big thumbs up



That'd be entertaining to see...an ep with Marvin and Stitch. Too bad WB and Disney hate each other.  Big grin


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Fri Sep 03, 2004 6:52 pm

Yeah but occasionally they work together.

Remember when Daffy and Donald where playing the piano in "Who Framed Roger Rabbit"

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Fri Sep 03, 2004 6:55 pm

Actually I didn't. I haven't seen Roger Rabbit since I was a little kid. But now that you mention it maybe I should rent it one of these days.
 
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Fri Sep 03, 2004 6:57 pm

It has been a while for me too.

I think it was on TV a few months ago.
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Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:36 pm

But seriously, this could take a long time to figure out (or not, based on Racko's post). Let's watch the religious movement start re-reading Revelations for proof.

Just keep on trying.
 
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Sat Sep 04, 2004 12:38 am

RE: We've been taught all our lives to be afraid of "aliens"

Who's 'we' ? I haven't.

If it really is extraterrestrial intelligence (and its got to exist somewhere, otherwise the universe is a pretty sad and lonely joke on us), it will shake things up, but so far I'm thinking static from someone running a hair dryer to close to the telescope.
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Sat Sep 04, 2004 1:26 am

Who's 'we' ? I haven't.


That'd be the general public that has bought Hollywood's definition of what an "Alien" is - usually something vicious and scary.
 
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Sat Sep 04, 2004 1:35 am

Hmm,

Hard to believe it could be contact from an Alien civilization. This signal could have been produced from an infinite number of things, it is a vast exaggeration to suggest that it could've been from intelligent life elsewhere in the Universe. However, it is intriguing and i'm sure i'm not the only one who opened this topic with more than a little interest.
 
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Sat Sep 04, 2004 4:10 am

In my view, a civilization that was able to travel the stars and would somehow reach earth, would be extremely far more advanced than we are. It would've taken them hundreds of thousands of years to get to the technological point that they would be in.

If they were able to survive hundreds of thousands of years, that would have to mean that they are smart enough to not destroy themselves. This would bring in the fact that they would not be barbaric, and that they must be at a peace state with their whole civilization. In other words, they wouldn't come to destroy us, and the only exception to that is maybe they wanted to use our resources, and move from planet to planet, like locusts.

All this brings the conclusion that there is a much bigger chance that they would be peaceful, and not harmful. Just because there are octillions of planets in the Universe, doesn't mean I don't believe in god. What I think is that maybe all of our religions are misguided, and maybe there is a religion that we haven't discovered that is the truth.

I very much doubt that this is an alien signal, but if it is, then you could imagine one of the greatest discoverys since sliced bread  Smile/happy/getting dizzy.

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Sat Sep 04, 2004 4:17 am

The reason the US scientists couldn't idenify it, is that their TV's are set up for the NSTC format, while Europe is PAL formated.

1) It's NTSC
2) In France we use the "SECAM" format (never like others).
 
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Sat Sep 04, 2004 4:37 am

Statistically, it is inconceivable that earth would be the only planet where an "intelligent" form of life exists.

It is also known and even proven that the state of our science is still at an embryonic stage and that there is much more that scientists are aware of but cannot explain yet, in part due to the narrow minded (skeptic at the very least) approach of human science.

Is it so strange (or heretic) to envisage that some somewhere have had a different approach and have reached a different and much more elaborate stage of evolution ?

The "I know" or "I very much doubt" or "it cannot be" are merely an expression of our inner feelings.
Would not it be more appropriate to just keep our eyes and ears alert and react when something actually crosses our field of vision or audio spectrum ?
 
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Sat Sep 04, 2004 10:27 pm

As best put by Carl Sagan:

There are billions and billions and billions and billions........................
 
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RE: CNN Reporting;contact From An Alien Civilization

Sat Sep 04, 2004 10:58 pm

The reason the US scientists couldn't idenify it, is that their TV's are set up for the NSTC format, while Europe is PAL formated.

1) It's NTSC
2) In France we use the "SECAM" format (never like others).


So you are saying the aliens are French?



Just picturing the plot from Star Trek IV now, except instead of the alien vessel almost destroying early by almost transmitting Humpback whale noises to the ocean.......well you get the idea  Laugh out loud
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