Arniepie
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Dutch Student Solves Age-old Mathematics Problem.

Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:30 am

Apparently a Dutch student from the city of Eindhoven solved an age old mathematics problem, looked for by mathematicians as far back as the ancient Egyptians.
Anybody (maybe our Dutch friends) know anything more about it and care to elaborate?
Source (in Dutch)
www.gva.be/nieuws/in_de_rand/

P.S. I certainly hope this doesn't mean I can't make no "Dutch people are stupid"-jokes anymore with my brother in law (born and raised in Holland).
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RE: Dutch Student Solves Age-old Mathematics Problem.

Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:37 am

That's what happens if you legalize prostitution and weed. Big grin
 
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RE: Dutch Student Solves Age-old Mathematics Problem.

Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:43 am

Just imagine all of the things humanity could come up with if we followed the
Dutch way of life!
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RE: Dutch Student Solves Age-old Mathematics Probl

Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:45 am

For those of us who don't read Dutch, could you please give us a summary of the problem, in laymen's terms?
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RE: Dutch Student Solves Age-old Mathematics Problem.

Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:57 am

A friend who was in some of my lectures at college is doing an MA or MSC in maths. How very odd she must be!  Wink/being sarcastic I can barely add up 2+2 (the answer's 5, by the way), let alone anything beyond that.  Wink/being sarcastic

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RE: Dutch Student Solves Age-old Mathematics Problem.

Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:58 am

Pe@rson....hey now. Big grin

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Arniepie
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RE: Dutch Student Solves Age-old Mathematics Problem.

Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:59 am

As far as I can understand he made up a formula with which u can determine the 0-points in every mathematical equasion.
As I have to translate this into English I hope it still makes sense for you.
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RE: Dutch Student Solves Age-old Mathematics Problem.

Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:01 am

Hehe, whilst on the subject of maths can anyone do 2x^4-x^4x^2-2x+3 / x^2+1.. I want to see just how wrong I got it  Wink/being sarcastic (I hate dividing big polynomials).
 
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RE: Dutch Student Solves Age-old Mathematics Problem.

Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:03 am

2+2 does equal 5 for big values of 2.
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RE: Dutch Student Solves Age-old Mathematics Problem.

Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:07 am

As far as I can understand he made up a formula with which u can determine the 0-points in every mathematical equation

Wow, if this is true.. That is awesome, I wonder how soon it'll be taught in Math syllabuses...
 
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RE: Dutch Student Solves Age-old Mathematics Probl

Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:10 am

EGGD -- something seems wrong with what you typed... I see x^4x^2, which would be x^6... Try typing it again.

Is it supposed to be (2x^4-x^4) (x^2-2x+3) / x^2+1 ?


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RE: Dutch Student Solves Age-old Mathematics Probl

Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:12 am

0-points in every mathematical equation... Huh? You're not talking about intercepts, are you? Those are fairly easy to find...
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RE: Dutch Student Solves Age-old Mathematics Problem.

Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:12 am

I think it should be 2x4 - x3 +/- x2 - 2x +3 / x2 + 1

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RE: Dutch Student Solves Age-old Mathematics Problem.

Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:16 am

Hold on,

I'm absolutely knackered today so my brain isn't quite in gear..

2x^4 - x^3 + 4x^2 - 2x + 4 / x^2 - x + 1

Sorry I can't do you're 'pro' superscript,  Big grin. Dividing a polynomial by a quadratic doesn't sit well with me.. Don't worry if you guys can't be bothered, I can* check my answer tomorrow.


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RE: Dutch Student Solves Age-old Mathematics Problem.

Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:19 am

Further info
The guy is called Geert-Jan Uytdewilligen ,a fourth year student in the Fontys-institute in Eindhoven.
Until now mathematicians where only able to solve Polynomes until the sixth degree but with his formula you can solve everything no matter which degree.
Sorry I didn't find an English link yet because it is still fresh news.
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RE: Dutch Student Solves Age-old Mathematics Problem.

Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:33 am

EGGD:

2x2 + x + 3 + 1/(x2 - x + 1)
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RE: Dutch Student Solves Age-old Mathematics Problem.

Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:34 am

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RE: Dutch Student Solves Age-old Mathematics Problem.

Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:46 am

If nobody knows the answer except the Dutch kid, how do we know it's right?  Laugh out loud
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RE: Dutch Student Solves Age-old Mathematics Problem.

Mon Sep 13, 2004 10:05 am

FlyingBronco - Nice try, but obviously it can be proven by even the most mediocre of mathmatician. It takes a genius to work out a formula like this, but once its been found many people can prove it.
 
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RE: Dutch Student Solves Age-old Mathematics Problem.

Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:01 pm

The proofs of the kind "it´s quite simple, once you´ve got the right idea..." are the most ingenious ones...
 
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RE: Dutch Student Solves Age-old Mathematics Problem.

Mon Sep 13, 2004 6:27 pm

Yeah always those Dutch.............  Big thumbs up

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RE: Dutch Student Solves Age-old Mathematics Probl

Mon Sep 13, 2004 6:58 pm

Looks like a joke to me.

I'm not in the field anymore for some years, but this demonstration looks like BS.

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RE: Dutch Student Solves Age-old Mathematics Problem.

Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:26 pm

"That's what happens if you legalize prostitution and weed."

LOL

Actually, I graduated from Eindhoven in '95 & lived on top of a coffee shop for a few yrs there. I still remember the sweet smell in the kitchen when the window was open..

I didn't get very exited doing classes in the Math faculty, however I will send my comments on the matrixes to Eindhoven now, so they can further improve the polynomials in s after multiplying the denominator & substitute the powerseries more efficiently.

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RE: Dutch Student Solves Age-old Mathematics Probl

Mon Sep 13, 2004 10:48 pm

"That's what happens if you legalize prostitution and weed."


Yeah, the problem is the guy forgot where he left his notes.
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