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Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres

Wed Sep 29, 2004 5:44 am

Basically, this movie (coming to theatres) will address every item raised by Fahrenheit 911, issue-by-issue.



Here are some links, but ~WARNING~ some of the images and videos in these links might be disturbing to some:

Primary site:
http://www.citizensunited-interactive.org/c41.11/

Secondary site:
http://65.36.166.137/
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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres

Wed Sep 29, 2004 5:46 am

This is the dumbest idea I have seen yet. What a pathetic attempt to try and get back at Micheal Moore for creating Fahrenheit 9/11. Now we are turning the movie business into a political battle, great.  Insane
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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres

Wed Sep 29, 2004 5:53 am

You can distort propaganda in either direction.

Both movies have their own agendas, and both are nothing more than propaganda.

Now, if you want to see a really good propaganda film, check out

Triumph des Willens

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0025913/

I do believe however, that Moore's film is closer to the truth, what I see in 41.11 is just more fear mongering from the right.

[Edited 2004-09-28 22:54:31]
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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres

Wed Sep 29, 2004 5:54 am

try and get back at Micheal Moore for creating Fahrenheit 9/11. Now we are turning the movie business into a political battle, great.


No shock there... he left himself WIDE (no pun intended) open for this sorta thing to happen.

I would've been surprised had it NOT occurred.
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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres

Wed Sep 29, 2004 5:54 am

Directed By
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I had that once, hurt like hell.

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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres

Wed Sep 29, 2004 5:55 am

Sounds great! I just ordered one.
 
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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres

Wed Sep 29, 2004 5:57 am

Moore's film is closer to the truth

...you've gotta be kidding us with this, huh?!  Wow!
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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatre

Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:14 am

...You've gotta be kidding us with this, huh?!

Its just simple logic CB, when people spread the truth, the typical response is people running to cover themselves as quick as they can. That's exactly what they are doing. Not saying Moore's film is entirely based on facts, but its obvious that is whats happening here.
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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatre

Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:28 am

As a foreigner watching the US American election, I wonder if I should laugh or cry.

But I sure hope I will never witness something similar hateful, cynical and word-twisting at home.
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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres

Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:32 am

NoUFO, I feel the same way about Germany.  Smile
 
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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres

Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:37 am

NoUFO, I feel the same way about Germany.

What about German elections really get to you?
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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres

Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:43 am

Its just simple logic CB, when people spread the truth

Alas, more didn't do that by a longshot, so how could that theory possibly apply here?
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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres

Wed Sep 29, 2004 7:14 am

Fahrenheit 9/11 and Celsius 41.11 have to be a movie version of the classic a.net Bush vs Kerry flame war: Both sides have legitimate arguments, some extremists on both sides twist them to fit their agendas, and in the end they post line after line "disproving" what the other guy just said. Brilliant.  Insane

I'm gonna get drunk once this fucked-up campaign is over, no matter who wins the election. Too much bullshit to take, and the saddest thing is it's about the future most powerful man of the world.
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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres

Wed Sep 29, 2004 7:22 am

Bushcheney2004: Sounds great! I just ordered one.

Ben, are you telling me that it was ConcordeBoy's post which told you about this "masterpiece"? You don't have a copy already? It's the "most anticipated and talked about DVD this election season" and if it wasn't for a.net - a web from euroliberal Sweden - you wouldn't know about it?
Dude, it's still 35 days to go till the election - not a good time to slack on your fanaticism now. Please consider this to be a fair and friendly although serious warning. Otherwise I shall report you to Dubya himself and initiate removal of your nick, since you're clearly not living up to its standards.


[Edited 2004-09-29 00:22:54]
 
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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres

Wed Sep 29, 2004 10:21 am

NoUFO ... dah ... the USA is a dunce when elections are concerned ... look in the Balkans if you're looking for "fun" ....

In mid 90s Slobodan Milosevic (the same SM currently imprisoned in Hague) won the presidential elections in several communities with more than 100% (record community had him get around 110% of all votes and the opposite candidate getting 0 votes). Go figure.

But to be honest we have our own share of stupid politicians... Take one J.P., the former president of the Slovenian Parliament. He entered a disputed area on the border between Slovenia and Croatia (both countries claim the 2x2 mile area ... - and it's arid land ... the problem is that it's connected to a nice little bay  Big grin) and when leaving wouldn't showing the Croat border post his ID ... got boxed in the stomach and dragged to a Croat courthouse ... stupidity on his part. Elections or no elections. Stupid politician. :>

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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatre

Wed Sep 29, 2004 10:36 am

Bushcheney2004,
We can talk about that in 2006.

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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres

Wed Sep 29, 2004 11:19 am

Looks great, can't wait to see it!
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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres

Wed Sep 29, 2004 11:27 am

We have no reason to be in Iraq. Kerry will get us out.

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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres

Wed Sep 29, 2004 11:58 am

"We have no reason to be in Iraq. Kerry will get us out.
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KERRY VOTED FOR THE WAR!!!!!
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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres

Wed Sep 29, 2004 12:21 pm

He voted for the war cause Bush and his buddies told us there were WMD's.

Now that we know there aren't, the smart people (including Kerry) want us out!
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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres

Wed Sep 29, 2004 12:32 pm

"He voted for the war cause Bush and his buddies told us there were WMD's."

He STILL would have voted for the war if he knew then what he knows now. How do you like them apples?

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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres

Wed Sep 29, 2004 12:45 pm

He voted for the war cause Bush and his buddies told us there were WMD's.

Bush told people there were WMDs based on the intelligence he received.

Think about why Bush made the decision to go to war......it was because everybody was telling him that Iraq was surely a threat and had WMDs...........which is probably why Kerry voted for the war as well -- because 3 major intelligence agencies, including our own, 100% believed Iraq to be a threat with WMDs.

It's funny how you blame Bush for acting on bad intelligence, but defend Kerry's decision which was made for pretty much the same reason and basis as Bush's decision was made.

Typical hypocritical liberal crap.



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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres

Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:11 pm

Everyone told Bush that America was going to be attacked too. But he went on vacation. Face it Bush invaded Iraq for their oil. Now this DVD is going to scar you into voting for Bush. I'm more scared of Bush than the terrorists !!! Defend America Defeat Bush !!!
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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres

Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:17 pm

"We have no reason to be in Iraq. Kerry will get us out."

Not that he will get the chance, but I would agree, he probably would retreat... It must be in his genes.
 
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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres

Wed Sep 29, 2004 3:50 pm

Not that he will get the chance, but I would agree, he probably would retreat... It must be in his genes.

I would rather pull the fine soldiers out than to watch many of them die every single day for nothing.
They have removed Saddam now. That was their goal. But that created a mess that they will never be able to fix. So the only thing they can do is to retreat and look at the only bright side hey got from this: They got Saddam.


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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres

Wed Sep 29, 2004 10:57 pm

This new film will be the furthest thing from an objective rebuttal to Michael Moore. Some of the older folks here will recognize Citizens United as the political attack-dog organization founded by Republican operative Floyd "Baby Huey" Brown, creator of the notorious Willie Horton ad that helped George H.W. Bush defeat Michael Dukakis in 1988.

Jeff M wrote:
Not that he (Kerry) will get the chance, but I would agree, he probably would retreat... It must be in his genes.

It baffles me that paleo-cons try to peg Kerry as a wuss in their endless and Quixotic effort to prove that they have the biggest schlong, geo-politically speaking. Reagan pulled the Marines out of Lebanon in 1983, but of course that was a "tactical redeployment."

Reducing this election to a pissing contest on terrorism is nothing short of pure, unadulterated idiocy. As long as Bin Laden is out there (and we have every reason to believe he still is), Bush's posturing and preening amount to nothing but verbal and mental masturbation.
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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres

Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:10 am

We have no reason to be in Iraq. Kerry will get us out.

About the only way he could do that... would be to do exactly what he's saying he'll do: pander to the UN; and when they refuse, act surprised, and use that as a catalyst to pull out.

Face it, Kerry's backed himself into a corner over this. Howard Dean would've been your man... he made no qualms about what he would do, and the American people responded accordingly.
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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres

Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:50 am

MaverickM11:

He STILL would have voted for the war if he knew then what he knows now. How do you like them apples?

How can you be so sure of that? I'd be mighty surprised if he would have, though.

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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres

Thu Sep 30, 2004 3:14 am

How can you be so sure of that?

Um, because John Kerry himself SAID IT, perhaps?

...of course, before flipflopping with Diane, and saying he wouldn't have if he'd have known what we know now (ya know, by employing the Federal Psychic Task Force). What an idiot  Nuts
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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres

Thu Sep 30, 2004 5:52 am

"...of course, before flipflopping with Diane, and saying he wouldn't have if he'd have known what we know now (ya know, by employing the Federal Psychic Task Force). What an idiot "

At the end of the day, Kerry has essentially the exact same position as Bush regarding the Iraqi conflict, however, he "wouldadunnit better". That's IT...so to all folks who bash Bush for the war, you owe Kerry just as much anger.
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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres

Fri Oct 01, 2004 5:25 am

Though, ya gotta admit.... saying that he wouldnt have gone to war knowing the outcome, has to have Kerry kicking himself.

When ya sit back and ponder it, even for a second, such a comment proves to be unmitigated idiocy no matter how you try to spin it.
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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres

Fri Oct 01, 2004 5:36 am

It looks like a stupid movie to me.

Bush is an elected (well...) official. And Fahrenheit 9/11 is about Bush, his record, his administration, his lies, etc.

That Celsius 41.11 movie attacks the messenger, Michael Moore.

What a lame response on the part of the Conservatives... They have so little positive things to say about GWB that they feel they have to attack his critics. Pitiful.
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RE: Response To Far9/11: Celsius 41.11, In Theatres

Fri Oct 01, 2004 6:42 am

"That Celsius 41.11 movie attacks the messenger, Michael Moore."

That's because Moore, and the object of his movie, the Bush administration, are the SAME. That "messenger" lies and spins just as much information as an entire administration, which in some realm of reality, is comendable.
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