teahan
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19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 3:36 am

Since not everyone was excited about the FRA meet, some members have decided to proceed with a long awaited and much discussed DUB meet regardless of the others plans (which anyway seem to have moved to April if the latest poll is to be believed)

Something along these lines, though plans could of course change depending on the wishes of attendees.

Saturday:
- People arrive
- Some spotting (easy to reach location without a car, if the weather is particularly poor we can always hang at the airport pub)
- Sit down meal followed a night out in the temple bar area.

Sunday:
- Visit of the Guinness storehouse etc.
- Back to the airport, some more spotting as individual members leave.

Committed to showing up:
UTA_flyinghigh
Sabena332
Pe@rson
Teahan (myself)
A number of DUB based members.

Perhaps:
707cmf
Runway23

With Ryanair's 737-200s still operating a number of UK-Dublin routes, it is an ideal chance combine this meet with a last flight on one. I tried to consider a way of having the whole group do a return from DUB but concluded this might be too time consuming and expensive.

Jeremiah
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teahan
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 3:46 am

For anyone in the US, Aer Lingus offers New York - JFK to Dublin flights that weekend for a total of US$ 331 return incl. taxes. Flights options are as follows:

Dep JFK Friday 18th / Arr. DUB Saturday 19th
EI104 18:00-05:30 (non-stop)
EI110/EI132 18:50-07:45 (change in Shannon)
EI108 21:20-08:50

Dep. DUB Sunday 19th / Arr. JFK the same day
EI109 16:30-19:00
(other earlier flight options departing arr. JFK 13:00 and 15:45 for US$40 more)

http://www.aerlingus.com

Jeremiah


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KiwiNanday
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 3:52 am

I would rather be at FRA, because the weather will be nicer than DUB, it may be cold, but who cares? Also, a lot of us want FRA.

Kiwi the wannabe brit

Edit: I was too rude first time around

[Edited 2004-10-06 20:56:48]
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teahan
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 3:58 am

KiwiNanday: "Four Words: Not Going To Happen"

Given five of us are already commited to attending, I expect it to happen. Look we don't have ambitions to get tens of members to come, just a few more would be perfect.

Many who attended the MAN/LHR meets confirmed that with so many people, you don't have time to really get to know everyone. The organisation also becomes complex with everyone wandering off in different directions.

Jeremiah

[Edited 2004-10-06 21:02:43]
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 4:50 am


Committed to showing up:
UTA_flyinghigh
Sabena332
Pe@rson
Teahan (myself)
A number of DUB based members.
Airplanepics

Perhaps:
707cmf
Runway23
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JRadier
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 73

Thu Oct 07, 2004 4:53 am

Teahan, there were around 30 people at AMS, and as far as I have seen no-one really wondered off to anywhere, maybe apart from the place we were standing to the snack car, but that's not what I call wandering off.

So it's just how you organise the meeting I guess, and if you don't want to organise a big meeting, np, as long as it suits you, but don't say it won't work.

"Four Words: Not Going To Happen"
The FRA meet?, I've got 3 words for you: "Wait and see". The FRA meet will happen, it's just trying to get the most people happy, and not setting a fixed date at the beginning. Yes we will set a date soon too, but we know what people wanted.

Anyway, you've put me, Erwin and Ben in a tougher spot then we were allready in, namely organising another meeting at a date wich (as seen by the latest list) is very popular for FRA as well.

"As for the unclarity in the FRA thread Ben and I will take full responsibilty. It sure isn't easy to find a date in 2 options, wich both do not really stand out, we will try to sort it out ASAP"

[Edited 2004-10-06 22:05:28]
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 5:04 am

"Four Words: Not Going To Happen"

I find this a VERY selfish remark. Ben, Bob and Erwin have put some effort into FRA and are really trying hard to sort out this mess, if anything you have put more pressure on them with DUB, let them sort out FRA before starting a meet of your own!.

kaz
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teahan
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 5:09 am

@Kaz:

That quote ("Four Words: Not Going To Happen") were KiwiNanday's words, before he edited them out, most certainly not mine.

In fairness, we had decided on the February date for a DUB meet when FRA was postponed until April.

Jeremiah

[Edited 2004-10-06 22:12:20]
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mikec
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 73

Thu Oct 07, 2004 5:12 am

Committed to showing up:
UTA_flyinghigh
Sabena332
Pe@rson
Teahan (myself)
A number of DUB based members.
Airplanepics
mikec

Perhaps:
707cmf
Runway23
 
pilot kaz
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 5:16 am

Ok I Apologise.

But i still think it was not fair rushing into a DUB meet when FRA was still in the making. not fair at all
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Capital146
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 5:46 am

Kaz,

I agree with you totally on this. From what I have seen to date, the FRA meet is still potentially going to be 19/20 Feb. I'm sure that there are people who would like to do both FRA and DUB if they were at different times of the year so why have them compete and have people forced into choosing one or the other?

I'm just getting the impression that because FRA looks to have been chosen over DUB that some are trying to devalue the FRA meet. Of course, you are free to organise whatever meet you like, when you like, but its the manner in which this has been done which I find unpleasant.

[Edited 2004-10-06 22:47:27]
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kaddyuk
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 5:50 am

I have to side with Karis here  Big grin

Its making life difficult with 2 meets, I dont know which to go to...  Big grin

Oh what the hell I will be going to FRA in feb...
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JRadier
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 73

Thu Oct 07, 2004 5:51 am

so that makes 3 of us (posted my initial reply earlier up the post)
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 5:57 am

Hi, David,

>I'm just getting the impression that because FRA looks to have been chosen over DUB that some are trying to devalue the FRA meet. Of course, you are free to organise whatever meet you like, when you like, but its the manner in which this has been done which I find unpleasant<

I agree with Kaz and you. It's sad to see this is happening. I'm not planning on attending any of the meets but, if most of the attendees at the FRA atendees are going there from other countries and a good deal of the DUB meet atendees are locals , couldn't the DUB meet be at least a week later (or earlier)?

 
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 6:24 am

I'd personally prefer to attend a Dublin meet to a Frankfurt one, but the Irish tourist visa policies have become quite ridiculous lately - requiring a guarantee from an Irish sponsor, Gardai clearance, a non-refundable 100 Euro application fee and 6-8 weeks processing time. Of course, one can simply walk across the border from Northern Ireland without any checks. Just goes to show that there is no incentive to follow the law....
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 73

Thu Oct 07, 2004 6:27 am

Committed to showing up:
UTA_flyinghigh
Sabena332
Pe@rson
Teahan (myself)
A number of DUB based members.
Airplanepics
mikec

Perhaps:
707cmf
Runway23
mhodgson

Perhaps - DUB is more convenient (£30-£50 from BLK as opposed to £140+ from MAN), but I may be on holiday that weekend. Who knows!

[Edited 2004-10-06 23:44:08]
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aviationfreak
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 6:29 am

I don't like this at all. People are working very hard to solve the difficulties we have and now this. This makes it only more difficult for them. How childish!

Sander
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jasepl
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 6:29 am

...the Irish tourist visa policies have become quite ridiculous lately - requiring a guarantee from an Irish sponsor, Gardai clearance, a non-refundable 100 Euro application fee and 6-8 weeks processing time. Of course, one can simply walk across the border from Northern Ireland without any checks. Just goes to show that there is no incentive to follow the law....

That's strange. I got one earlier this year in Bombay and it was quite painless. They didn't want any spomsorship etc, nor did they want tickets or hotel reservations. The nice lady simply entered all kinds of info into a computer, took my money (about Rs 3,600) handed me back my passport and asked me to come back two days later. Took all of 15 minutes.
 
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 6:49 am

Just want to clear something up.

Don't blame Teehan for this. The mix up is my fault, not his. He planned a DUB meet after we moved the FRA meet to April, and then people started moaning because they wanted it in February. So please don't blame Teehan for this.

British767
 
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 73

Thu Oct 07, 2004 7:00 am

hey hey... I might want to try the FR BVA-DUB line then...

But I will not decide until early Juanuary...

Cheers,

707
 
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 7:07 am

Committed to showing up:
UTA_flyinghigh
Sabena332
Pe@rson
Teahan (myself)
A number of DUB based members.
Airplanepics
mikec

Perhaps:
707cmf
Runway23
mhodgson
PlymSpotter

Will have to wait and see a little bit longer, got to get time off work ect..ect. Still, hope to make it to DUB again, had a very enjoyable day there this summer.

Dan  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 7:15 am

I got one earlier this year in Bombay and it was quite painless. They didn't want any spomsorship etc, nor did they want tickets or hotel reservations.

Most visas are significantly easier to get in India than elsewhere in the world, mainly because they process applications in such volume that "legitimate" frequent travelers with solid bonafides are shuffled along quickly. The same countries' missions in first-world countries though seldom have to deal with visa applications from locals and are hence immediately suspicious when a non-citizen comes in to apply.

I am still smarting from the note the Czechs sent me 3 years ago sayign that "we do not seek to encourage tourism visits by citizens of India, hence we are unable to issue you a visa at this time". Also the South Africans who wanted a US$1000 cash bond placed in escrow before they would issue me a visa. Or the Costa Ricans who insisted on a referred visa and $5000 bond to simply transit (not even transfer planes - just sit on the same plane on a through flight) through SJO. And of course the US whose visa procedure has been known to make grown men cry on a regular basis. None of which I will visit for personal reasons anymore, and Ireland is likely to join them if this nonsense continues.
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 9:48 am

Sorry, but I don't understand the problems of certain people. There is a meet at DUB and there is a meet at FRA.....so... everyone is free to decide where he/she wants to go!

This is not an "Our meeting has more attendees than your meeting" contest!

Patrick
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Mir
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 1:27 pm

This is not an "Our meeting has more attendees than your meeting" contest!

Unfortunately, I have the feeling that having two meetings at the same time will inevitably turn into such a contest, and will negatively effect the quality of both meets. Better keep it at one.
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 5:36 pm

Committed to showing up:
UTA_flyinghigh
Sabena332
Pe@rson
Teahan (myself)
A number of DUB based members.
Airplanepics
mikec

Perhaps:
707cmf
Runway23
mhodgson
PlymSpotter
GKirk

Just remind me to leave my Rangers top at home  Wink/being sarcastic

BTW, Why are some people moaning about two meets? Either go to one or the other.
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 7:30 pm

I'm very interested in coming to DUB, may well combine it with a trip to County Louth to see some family. It's a shame that a date clash may occur but there seems to be too much uncertainty over FRA at the moment.

Committed to showing up:
UTA_flyinghigh
Sabena332
Pe@rson
Teahan (myself)
A number of DUB based members.
Airplanepics
mikec

Perhaps:
707cmf
Runway23
mhodgson
PlymSpotter
GKirk
Shamrock_747
 
Pe@rson
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 7:30 pm

Lord Pe@rson (  Wink/being sarcastic ) is here to give judgement on this matter.

---
The fact that two meets are being organised and developed concurrently is, in my view, totally fair and justified, for each get-together will certainly appeal to specific members, very few of whom will go to both.

The problems occurred by one get-together should not hinder the development and organisation of another.

Both meets should be organised completely seperately, where would-be attendees are free to decide which, if any, to attend - but they must have information on both to make an informed decision.

I believe that both meets should be organised seperately but concurrently, irrespective of any encountered problems from either party.

---

This judgement is binding on all future cases dealing with the same matter.
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 7:35 pm

Of course, Pe@rson advises you all to travel on that wonderful airline....























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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 7:39 pm

Nope! People can fly on whichever airline they like. Hell, even I fly BA and BD sometimes.  Wink/being sarcastic Ooooops, shouldn't have said that, eh?  Wink/being sarcastic
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 7:52 pm

Pe@rson flies on real airlines?  Wow!

*GKirk drops dead*
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jasepl
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 8:05 pm

Most visas are significantly easier to get in India than elsewhere in the world, mainly because they process applications in such volume that "legitimate" frequent travelers with solid bonafides are shuffled along quickly. The same countries' missions in first-world countries though seldom have to deal with visa applications from locals and are hence immediately suspicious when a non-citizen comes in to apply.

I am still smarting from the note the Czechs sent me 3 years ago sayign that "we do not seek to encourage tourism visits by citizens of India, hence we are unable to issue you a visa at this time". Also the South Africans who wanted a US$1000 cash bond placed in escrow before they would issue me a visa. Or the Costa Ricans who insisted on a referred visa and $5000 bond to simply transit (not even transfer planes - just sit on the same plane on a through flight) through SJO. And of course the US whose visa procedure has been known to make grown men cry on a regular basis. None of which I will visit for personal reasons anymore, and Ireland is likely to join them if this nonsense continues.



I've got, without any difficulty, Swiss, French & Danish visas in America; a Slovenian visa in Austria; Canadian, Austrian & Slovak visas in Britain; American, Swiss & Australian visas in France. Of all these cases, the only time I was actually living or working in a country was in France. The rest of the countries I was either a tourist or on a short business trip.

What I have experienced, though, is that the poorer the country, the more the attitude they have. The woman at the Indonesian embassy in Paris was a real bitch and demanded all kinds of things, including an actual ticket before she even considered looking at my application. I didn't have a ticket, amongst other stupid little things, so I didn't get the visa. I did get into a big argument with her though. Which pissed her off and pleased me (it was, apparently, my time of the month - there's no other explanation!). At the Australian and Swiss embassies in Paris, on the other hand, they had started processing the visa before I had even completed filling out the form! The Swiss woman had already stuck the visa in my passport before I was halfway through.

As for the US, I've never actually been inside any of their embassies or consulates (always managed either through the post or through an agent), but agree on your diagnosis of the procedure, from what I've heard. Fortunately, I'll probably never have to go through it.

Actually, I've scanned a bunch of them and tried emailing them to Gabriel to put up on his site, but the damn email keep coming back every time I send it. I lost my passport some time ago, so I don't have all of them, but the few I do have on my current passport I've been trying to send him.

As for Costa Rica, I remember reading somewhere that it's the one country India does not have a full diplomatic relationship with (or the other way around). Perhaps that's the reason, if it is indeed true.

Getting back to Ireland, though, I still find it a bit strange. Aren't procedures and requirements meant to be the same everywhere for citizens of the the same country? The Irish are actively promoting their country here and are really encouraging tourists and students to go there. And the bawi at their Fort consulate was super nice. Don't give up on Ireland - it's a lovely place!
 
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 8:54 pm

I think that the reason that LHR/MAN/AMS meets were fairly succesful was down to the fact that they wern't that large affairs. Now that everyone has seen how fun the meets can be everyone wants to join in which makes conflict/arguing and well plain old bitching more common. I think the organisation of a meet should be done in the way that sander did the AMS meet. He organised ONE poll, he then took the date that was the most popular by majority and made that the date, no compromise. If some people cant make that date then they didnt come. While it would be good to get everyone together it just wont happen because people have other commitments. I think that a meet that involves lots of people needs someone who is sensible and has the time to devote to proper planning. Without meaing to be rude, i think that it should be down to one person, i know it is a lot to do, but this time it seems to have been a bit of a mix up. I think at this point having a meet as succesful as AMS will be very difficult. Sander did a ******* amazing job with AMS and i know everyone agrees. His local knowledge played a big part in this and his dedication to it also was what made it happen. I think we should have less of these polls and just set a place, then poll the date, then let everyone choose thier hotels. By all means reccomend 2 -3 hotels near to each other for us all to stay in. For people that choose other places it is up to them to get to the dedicated meeting points. I think that during the meets there should be a "guideline" to what the plans will be and that if people want to join then they can, if not then they can go of on their own or with a smaller group.

I really hope that anet can organise another meet and we can have as much fun as we have previously. But it will require trust, co-operation and a lot of work. I think that starting and ending threads should be down to one person so that they dont get mixed up, it should be kept to one thread at a time so everyone can keep track.

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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 9:06 pm

Re: *GKirk drops dead*

(sings) Ding Dong the Pot-Bellied Gnome Is Dead, The Gnome Is Dead, The Grotty GNOOOOMEE is dead !!

'Tis the merriest day in all the glad New Year (champagne corks pop, fireworks, happy villagers perform the Dance of Joy, small birds sing in the hedgerows, and a big smiley face appears on the sun a la end of Roger Rabbit )

:-P

Actually I too am stunned by Pe@rson's revelation that he spurns his Daddy/Cult Hero/S&M Bondage Master MoL's flying sardine can company for proper airlines - what will the neighbours say ?
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Pe@rson
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 9:12 pm

LOL. It's very rare that I do, mind you, but hey.

And I think the fact that FR is - and will probably always be - far more profitable than BA, BD and all other European airlines - and nearly all in the world - is testament alone to the fact that it is very much a 'proper' airline - and airline which is in-tune with people's needs and delivers exactly that. Not some half-wit excuse which doesn't know what it is or what it's doing, and which is barely scraping the barrel in a hope of success, and which doesn't have quality leaders who are able to reduce costs, thereby increasing efficiency, and increasing profitability and market share. But let's not turn this into a debate.  Wink/being sarcastic

[Edited 2004-10-07 14:15:44]
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 9:17 pm

Here endeth the Gospel according to St Michael of the Holy Seat Cover - Thanks Be To Boeing.

(oooh stone the blasphemer !).
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 9:24 pm

LOL. You idiot.  Wink/being sarcastic  Laugh out loud
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gkirk
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 9:58 pm

Either that or Pe@rson is not actually the devils son....just an adopted love child of MOL?  Laugh out loud
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Thu Oct 07, 2004 10:51 pm

Committed to showing up:
UTA_flyinghigh
Sabena332
Pe@rson
Teahan (myself)
A number of DUB based members.
Airplanepics
mikec

Perhaps:
707cmf
Runway23
mhodgson
PlymSpotter
GKirk
Shamrock_747
gordonsmall
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:22 am

Well i'll go along if im not busy.


Committed to showing up:
UTA_flyinghigh
Sabena332
Pe@rson
Teahan (myself)
A number of DUB based members.
Airplanepics
mikec

Perhaps:
707cmf
Runway23
mhodgson
PlymSpotter
GKirk
Shamrock_747
gordonismall
MYT332
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BestWestern
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:37 am

Place me down as a perhaps...
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Fri Oct 08, 2004 4:23 am

"Place me down as a perhaps... "
To buy the first round?  Big grin
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Fri Oct 08, 2004 4:32 am

Well i'll go along if im not busy.


Committed to showing up:
UTA_flyinghigh
Sabena332
Pe@rson
Teahan (myself)
A number of DUB based members.
Airplanepics
mikec

Perhaps:
707cmf
Runway23
mhodgson
PlymSpotter
GKirk
Shamrock_747
gordonismall (getting us all a bar tab after the first round)
MYT332
Bestwestern (Buying first round)
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Fri Oct 08, 2004 4:36 am

Committed to showing up:
UTA_flyinghigh
Sabena332
Pe@rson
Teahan (myself)
A number of DUB based members.
Airplanepics
mikec

Perhaps:
707cmf
Runway23
mhodgson
PlymSpotter
GKirk (Will show you how to drink properly)
Shamrock_747
gordonismall (getting us all a bar tab after the first round)
MYT332
Bestwestern (Buying first round)
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Fri Oct 08, 2004 4:53 am

GKirk (Will show you how to drink properly)

I will do that too, let's see who of us is better  Big thumbs up .

gordonismall (getting us all a bar tab after the first round)
Bestwestern (Buying first round)


Perfect, such announcements are greatly appreciated! Big grin

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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Fri Oct 08, 2004 7:29 am

The woman at the Indonesian embassy in Paris was a real bitch and demanded all kinds of things, including an actual ticket before she even considered looking at my application

The Indonesian consulate in Mumbai wasn't any more helpful, but I insisted that the local bitch at the counter (who insisted I show her a ticket to Indonesia even though I specifically mentioned I would be entering by ferry from Singapore) talk to a consular officer about it. After hemming and hawing she did so and he approved the visa without any further questions.

Getting back to Ireland, though, I still find it a bit strange. Aren't procedures and requirements meant to be the same everywhere for citizens of the the same country? The Irish are actively promoting their country here and are really encouraging tourists and students to go there. And the bawi at their Fort consulate was super nice. Don't give up on Ireland - it's a lovely place!

When did Ireland get a consulate in Mumbai anyway? I remember when I checked a couple years ago all applications had to go through Delhi. If its that easy, I'll get an Irish visa when I'm home for Christmas and then make it to Dublin for the meet.

So count me in as a "maybe" on the Dublin meet list.
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Sat Oct 09, 2004 12:22 am

I am still deciding on which meet to attend.

DUB has a strong chance, as it is only 20 minutes across the sea Big grin

If i do chose DUB over FRA, I will be flying FR925 from BLK or pos MAN Smile

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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Sat Oct 09, 2004 3:48 am

When did Ireland get a consulate in Mumbai anyway? I remember when I checked a couple years ago all applications had to go through Delhi. If its that easy, I'll get an Irish visa when I'm home for Christmas and then make it to Dublin for the meet.

Here you go Sean: . Do it - shouldn't take more than a couple of days.

I thought they always had some sort of representation at the Yacht Club. When I wanted to go this year though, I discovered they have a consulate on PM Road. No idea when the second one opened though.

PS: I'm not going to bitch about the bitch at the Indonesian consulate in Paris today.
 
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Sat Oct 09, 2004 5:35 am

Please accept my apologies for what I said earlier in this thread. I usualy read the whole thread before I reply but I didn't this time so I missed Teahan's words in reply # 7:

In fairness, we had decided on the February date for a DUB meet when FRA was postponed until April.

I'm terribly sorry. I wasn't aware of that. Good luck with all the organising and I hope you will have a great time.

Kind regards,
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Sat Oct 09, 2004 6:55 am

I am still smarting from the note the Czechs sent me 3 years ago sayign that "we do not seek to encourage tourism visits by citizens of India, hence we are unable to issue you a visa at this time".

Further to this, someone kindly emailed me the official consular information sheet issued by the Government of India warning Indian citizens planning travel to the Czech Republic of these policies.

"Indian citizens visiting Czech Republic: Czech visa practices tend to be relatively more restrictive. Most visitors are asked by Czech Missions abroad to produce an invitation as they file their visa applications. It is also difficult to obtain visas for the Czech Republic in third countries. The Embassy of India in Prague remains ready to provide information and assistance in facilitating Indian travellers, particularly those who wish to investigate business opportunities in the Czech Republic."

Evidently India has reciprocated against the Czech Republic over visa policy and has instituted mandatory personal appearances and interviews for visa applicants, as well as a mandatory 21 day waiting period before visas are issued.

Off-topic I know, but I figured it would be an interesting thing to add since the discussion had taken a bit of branch on this topic anyway.
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RE: 19/20 February, Dublin Meet / Fly A Ryanair 732

Sat Oct 09, 2004 7:08 am

How silly. I remember when we travelled in the mid 90s to the Czeck republik (my parents had the Indian passport, me as only one the american), they got the visa without complications at the border. I thought this might have been due to Resident Status in Germany. But our friends along from India got the same visa within 5 min at the border.. .why did the czechs do that??  Confused
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