JBirdAV8r
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Great Britain Number Plate Help

Tue Oct 19, 2004 5:19 am

Hello all UK A.netters!

In a few weeks, my parents will be receiving their new 2005 MINI Cooper (already been built at the factory, now on the dock in Southampton waiting for a ship). To welcome the "new baby" I wanted to by my mom a personalized European number plate. I can't seem to find a good resource on the Web that tells me how the nomenclature works, however. I want to get her a customized Great Britain (with EU symbol) number plate for the front bumper.

I'd like to include something about where the car was made (Cowley, Oxford), maybe its model year, and her initials. I just want the numbers/letters to appear in the same order as an authentic plate.

I'd much appreciate any assistance! Thanks in advance!
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Jaspike
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RE: Great Britain Number Plate Help

Tue Oct 19, 2004 5:48 am

The new (well, a few years old) system works something like this.. for example:
BN04 ABC

BN - Car (bought/sold in?) Birmingham.. each area has a different code that doesn't necessarily look like the place, e.g. FX = north Notts area.

04 - car made in the first half of 2004, 54 would be second half of 2004 etc.

ABC - random (as far as I know) letters.

It's something like that..  Laugh out loud

And the plate itself would be white (white front, yellow back), with black letters.

For example:


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RE: Great Britain Number Plate Help

Tue Oct 19, 2004 6:13 am

Yeah, there are a number of rules to this equation though...

You cannot register a car with a year that would make the car seem younger than it actually is... You can register it with an old number plate though...
You will find more information here...

http://www.dvla-som.co.uk/home/

Hope this helps...
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RE: Great Britain Number Plate Help

Tue Oct 19, 2004 6:17 am

If it was registered in Oxford and is new now, it would have a plate like

O*54 *** (Oxford owns OA through OY, so could be anything)

Here's a link to show you the area codes. The first letter is often a reminder of the general area (like L for London, B for Birmingham) and some regions (smaller) have sub areas and some (like London) own the whole sequence

http://www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles/regmarks/reg_marks_memorytags.htm

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RE: Great Britain Number Plate Help

Wed Oct 20, 2004 11:56 am

Thanks guys! Great information, really appreciate it.
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RE: Great Britain Number Plate Help

Wed Oct 20, 2004 12:31 pm

Actually, one question comes to mind.

What's the difference between the type of plate Jaspike posted and the "EEC plate" (or whatever they call the one with the EU symbol and country code on the left-hand side)? Are both still issued?

Also, all the pics of the EEC plate I've seen have a different sequence, i.e. B 200 FSA. Is this done for any particular reason, and if so, what does it mean?
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RE: Great Britain Number Plate Help

Wed Oct 20, 2004 3:42 pm

The EU plate is a white plate with black lettering. On the left side it has a blue stripe with the country code (the same one you used to have on these oval shaped white stickers, e.g. GB for the UK, D for Germany, USA for... guess what?  Smile/happy/getting dizzy ) The actual coding depends on the respective country, e.g the example you´ve given looks to me like a Spanish plate from Barcelona. In Germany it would be first a one to three letter code for the community (county) where the car is currently registered (you´ll have to reregister your car in your new place of residence within one week, getting new number plates, if you move)), then a dash, behind it two random letters and then a random up to four digit number (B-AH4567, a car registered in Berlin, OHV-GH456, a car registered in Oberhavel Landkreis (county)). If it is only a number after the dash it means it is a government owned car. Certain letters are excluded like Nazi abreviations (KZ, NS, SS). There exist some other number plates for export (no customs duty), test driving (insurance cover limited to a few days) and time limited number plate (e.g. a number plate for a motorbike only used in summer, valid from april to october, saves tax and insurance)
In Germany many US miltary installations adopted the EU number plates, but with USA printed in the blue field, looking like German plates but with a fictional town code, as to make it more difficult for terrorists to identify American military personnel.

Irish number plates look approximately like this:

03MH789 This means a car registered first time in 2003 in county Monaghan
, the number after the letters is random.
Or 96D4567, registered first time in Dublin in 1996.
In Ireland a car keeps the same number for it´s whole life, no matter where it is sold or operated.
Hope this helps,

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RE: Great Britain Number Plate Help

Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:54 pm

Actually you don't see the EU flag with GB in it that often on UK cars. That may, or may not have something to do with hostility to the EU here, I honestly don't know. Either way, when the government first allowed the symbol to be put on number plates, they then had to agree that English, Scottish, Welsh, Northern Irish and British flags could also be used in place of the EU one. Still, in most cases there isn't any kind of symbol on the number plate.
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RE: Great Britain Number Plate Help

Wed Oct 20, 2004 8:15 pm

Banco is right, you dont see the EU flag on (many) British car registrations purely because the British people are quite hostile towards the EU. You do see British flags, Scottish, Welsh and English flags quite often though
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RE: Great Britain Number Plate Help

Wed Oct 20, 2004 8:23 pm

Banco/Kirkie - I was checking the other weekend in the UK for cars with EU badging on the numberplates - there are quite a few of them out there - and if they don't have it on the number plate, quite a few of the GB stickers you see feature the EU flag. Still, there are maybe not quite as many as you see in France for instance (where it is still just an optional feature on the number plate when you buy it, it isn't mandatory). I haven't seen any polls recently, but I suspect this hostility to the EU is somewhat overhyped, mainly because its easy to complain about something if you never plan to do anything about it (as is the British way  Laugh out loud).
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RE: Great Britain Number Plate Help

Wed Oct 20, 2004 8:34 pm

I'm not denying you see it on some, JGPH1A. Let's be honest about his, how many people are really going to care? It's just that you don't see it on that many, as I originally said.
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RE: Great Britain Number Plate Help

Wed Oct 20, 2004 10:42 pm

JGPH1A: Yes, some cars have the stupid EU flag on their plates, but not many, especially in Scotland  Big grin
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RE: Great Britain Number Plate Help

Wed Oct 20, 2004 11:55 pm

Kirkie - it may be a stupid flag, but learn to love it - you're stuck with it  Smile/happy/getting dizzy And BTW, the EU is Scotland's biggest (and only) hope of any kind of independence one day. Think on !
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RE: Great Britain Number Plate Help

Wed Oct 20, 2004 11:58 pm

Independence? In the EU? For God's sake JGPH1A, there's enough argument about the UK not having enough independence! Imagine what Scotland's impact might be! I've never understood that part of the SNP's manifesto.
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RE: Great Britain Number Plate Help

Thu Oct 21, 2004 12:43 am

Let's not do the whole "loss of sovereignty, the EU is an evil Franco-German monster intent on enslaving the noble Brits" thing. Where's Aloges' dead horse picture when you need it ?  Smile

Regional identity and autonomy thrive within the EU, look at Catalunya, Bavaria, Wallonia and Flanders - in all cases, virtually their own states with linguistic, religious and cultural identities strengthened rather than weakened by EU funding for regions as well as countries. This is and will continue to be the case for Scotland as well (even though they're only a province hehe :-P @ Kirkie)
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RE: Great Britain Number Plate Help

Thu Oct 21, 2004 12:55 am

Ahem. Mr pseudo-South African/Brit/Frenchman, might I respectfully point out that you started it! Na na na NA na...! Big grin
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RE: Great Britain Number Plate Help

Thu Oct 21, 2004 12:56 am

Most cars don't have any sort of flag on them, still using the old-style plates. Now ofcourse times have changed regarding Europe, so you get the Europe flag with your new car whether you want it or not. You could however change it, a trip to Halfords does the trick.
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RE: Great Britain Number Plate Help

Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:02 am

Re: might I respectfully point out that you started it!

So ? As a European (not pseudo-anything, ta very much) it is my duty to harrass and annoy les anglo-saxons as much as possible, as part of the ongoing not-so-secret plan to subjugate and enslave you. Prepare to be assimilated - resistance is futile !

Re: so you get the Europe flag with your new car whether you want it or not.

That must depend on the garage - when I bought my car in France, I had to ask for the Euro thing on the number plate (they charged me extra !).
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RE: Great Britain Number Plate Help

Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:07 am

Well, you're pseudo-annoying, I suppose. Have we asked for that passport back yet? The Tower is still available you know.  Big grin

When I last bought my car they asked if I wanted any of the flags on the number plate ("No, piss off" was the answer). I suspect that company car fleets are probably where they get put on, quite simply because I doubt that too many people would go out of their way to get it added. This comes back to my point about most people not really caring about it that much.
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RE: Great Britain Number Plate Help

Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:10 am

Not pseudo-annoying - really and genuinely annoying, I hope. And no you can't have the passport back, it's mine !

I asked for the 'F' on my number plate so I wouldn't have to deface my car with an ugly sticker saying same for going to Italy. Plus I like how it looks.
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RE: Great Britain Number Plate Help

Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:22 am

Nah. As was once said it's like being savaged by a dead sheep.

You might have slightly misunderstood what I was saying about the flags though. If you didn't want the EU flag with GB in the middle, you could have the Union Flag with GB underneath, or ENG, SCO, WAL, NIR with the various national flags of each. That's if you don't want the GB sticker thing on the back.
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RE: Great Britain Number Plate Help

Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:36 am

Wasn't the 'dead sheep' remark made about Geoffrey Someone - Mrs Thatcher (boo hiss)'s Foreign Secretary at one time ?

Technically, it is illegal to take your car abroad (I believe) with ENG, SCO, WAL or NIR on the number plate - these are not valid national identifiers. I don't think anyone actually checks, but it is illegal. Oooh ! Another evil sovereignty-reducing EU regulation to write to the Daily Mail about  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
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RE: Great Britain Number Plate Help

Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:53 am

Geoffrey Howe, that's it. I'm glad I remembered, it would have driven me nuts.
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RE: Great Britain Number Plate Help

Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:40 pm

just for you, JGPH1A:



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RE: Great Britain Number Plate Help

Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:10 pm

Oh happy day - my first shaft-style picture ! I'm so glad it's the dead horse one (my favourite, apart from the Free Cat). It's an honour just to be nominated.  Laugh out loud

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RE: Great Britain Number Plate Help

Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:33 pm

JGPH1A, Given where you live, I presume you see that picture as less of any kind of insult and more of a prospective meal?  Big grin
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RE: Great Britain Number Plate Help

Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:11 pm

Banco - I may live in France, and yes I have adopted many of the locals' amusing idiosyncrasies (2 hour lunches, abusive and aggressive driving, deep and abiding political cynicism) but I have yet to adopt the practise of eating horse meat - EUWUWUW !! I am still an Anglo-Saxon, and some genetic revulsions die hard.
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RE: Great Britain Number Plate Help

Wed Oct 27, 2004 12:37 am

"JGPH1A, Given where you live, I presume you see that picture as less of any kind of insult and more of a prospective meal?"

Ouch. That kind of made me sick, considering where I spent the time between 14:00 and 17:00. Take the German movie "Anatomie" as a hint if you give a shit.
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