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Clinton/Gore Will Be The Kiss Of Death For Kerry

Tue Oct 26, 2004 2:19 am

Chuck Noe, NewsMax.com
Saturday, Oct. 23, 2004

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/10/22/152415.shtml


Sen. John Kerry’s decision to have Bill Clinton and Al Gore campaign for him could cost him the election if recent history is any indication.

Clinton’s campaign appearances and the disastrous mismanagement of handpicked party boss Terry McAuliffe led to the Democrats’ unprecedented losses in the midterm elections of 2002. Among the Democrat casualties of the Clinton machine: New York gubernatorial nominee Carl McCall and Florida gubernatorial nominee Bill McBride.

Then his “assistance” backfired and helped oust California Gov. Gray Davis last year.

Gore’s record of harmful “help” is almost as abysmal. Remember less than a year ago when everyone had all but crowned Howard Dean as the Democrat presidential nominee? Then Gore endorsed him.

“I actually do think the endorsement of Al Gore began the decline,” Dean told CNN in February.

Despite his own former boss’ similar taint, ex-Clintonista Paul Begala sniped to the New York Times, “I suppose people are going to be running away from Al Gore the way the devil runs away from holy water.”

So why isn’t Kerry running from Clinton and Gore as hastily as he’s trying to flee his Senate record? The aloof Massachusetts blueblood does not have a stranglehold on the black vote and thinks his emissaries can deliver it for him.

The ex-president's campaigning is "less likely to mobilize anti-Clinton sentiment than it is to mobilize Democratic constituencies like African-Americans, who've been lagging in their enthusiasm for John Kerry," said Doug Schoen, who was Clinton's presidential pollster.

The Associated Press noted Friday: "Still, all the talk about Clinton's allure with black voters may be overstated. His share of the black vote - 83 percent in 1992 and 84 percent in 1996 - was less than that of every other Democratic presidential contender since John F. Kennedy."

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RE: Clinton/Gore Will Be The Kiss Of Death For Kerry

Tue Oct 26, 2004 2:39 am

Definately Gore has absolutely no weight, and could actually be a detriment to the Kerry campaign. I would not be so sure about Clinton. Whatever else he may be, he is one hell of a good speaker, and his rejoining the campaign at the last minute (combined with a little sympathy for his recent heart problems) might be worth a point or two.

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RE: Clinton/Gore Will Be The Kiss Of Death For Kerry

Tue Oct 26, 2004 2:41 am

I just saw Clinton on tv in Philadelphia....I wish this election was over....
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RE: Clinton/Gore Will Be The Kiss Of Death For Kerry

Tue Oct 26, 2004 2:48 am

Funny because in 2000 everyone said Gore would have won if he had Clinton campaign for him, especially in a state like Florida. Gore, afraid of getting moral criticism from Bush, pretty much didn't have Clinton campaign for him. And it cost him the election. John Kerry would be stupid to make the same mistake. Clinton is still wildly popular and would be elected instantly if he could run again.
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RE: Clinton/Gore Will Be The Kiss Of Death For Kerry

Tue Oct 26, 2004 2:51 am

Clinton still has a higher popularity rating than both Bush and Kerry so I'm not sure how he would hurt Kerry. I don't think Terry McAuliffe is going to have anything to do with Kerry and this election.

As for Gore, I doubt anyone really cares. Besides C-Span 2, he isn't getting a whole lot of coverage anywhere.

"His share of the black vote - 83 percent in 1992 and 84 percent in 1996 - was less than that of every other Democratic presidential contender since John F. Kennedy"

I think Kerry will take that 84% any day of the week. I would doubt that he has the same popularity amongst minorities as Clinton does.
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RE: Clinton/Gore Will Be The Kiss Of Death For Kerry

Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:03 am

Keep in mind that almost everyone Clinton's endorsed for high office has LOST!

The latest example thereof being Gray-out Davis.
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RE: Clinton/Gore Will Be The Kiss Of Death For Kerry

Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:04 am

Of course, using Newsmax, a well-known republican news outlet, makes this thread all the more credible  Insane
 
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RE: Clinton/Gore Will Be The Kiss Of Death For Kerry

Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:05 am

Of course, using Newsmax, a well-known republican news outlet, as a source, makes this thread all the more credible  Insane
 
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RE: Clinton/Gore Will Be The Kiss Of Death For Kerry

Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:12 am

Gray Davis was never allowed to run after the recall, it was against California law for him to re-take his post.

The problem for the democrats in CA was that they had about 20 candidates running for Governor and all their votes were divided while the republicans concentrated on getting Arnold in power. I don't know what that has to do with Clinton.

As far as other candidates he helped Doyle win as governor in Wisconsin as well as Feingold in the Senate his wife also won the senate seat in NY. I think Clinton has had a very substantial impact on quite a few races but maybe not as much on others.

But as far as strategy I would think he has a much better appeal amongst minority voters over Kerry.... who knows
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RE: Clinton/Gore Will Be The Kiss Of Death For Ker

Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:14 am

The latest example thereof being Gray-out Davis.

Gray Davis was a different matter as a large number of Californians (Democrats included) didn't like him and his policies.
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RE: Clinton/Gore Will Be The Kiss Of Death For Kerry

Tue Oct 26, 2004 4:01 am

Notice Kerry's interesting hand gesture in this pic? Is that ASL or Punk Rock?  Big grin

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RE: Clinton/Gore Will Be The Kiss Of Death For Ker

Tue Oct 26, 2004 4:50 am

I dunno about that pic.. doesn't that look kind of like the sign of Satan? Is Kerry trying to discretely get some support from the ever-powerful underground Satanist lobby?  Big grin
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RE: Clinton/Gore Will Be The Kiss Of Death For Kerry

Tue Oct 26, 2004 9:18 am

Could be, especially considering Kerry's ties to Satanism.

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RE: Clinton/Gore Will Be The Kiss Of Death For Kerry

Thu Nov 04, 2004 4:37 am

And.....I repeat, kiss of death.

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RE: Clinton/Gore Will Be The Kiss Of Death For Kerry

Thu Nov 04, 2004 4:39 am

L-188 - nice Photoshop smear.
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