Matt D
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Thank You

Thu Nov 04, 2004 11:50 am

Thank you to everyone who took time out of their busy schedules to vote. I waited for nearly an hour to vote, but felt that it is my Civic Duty to do so. So while my vote didn't count in my State election, it did nonetheless go towards who I wanted.

Thank you all to the people who showed that they still have Faith and re-elected the President, which is who I voted for-even though there are a lot of things I don't like about him.

I said in another topic just a few days ago that Kerry is a "two faced scumbag who can't make up his mind on anything."

While I still hold that opinion of him in terms of being a Presidential Candidate, he earned my respect as a person for bowing out with grace and dignity instead of drawing this out, only to go down in flames in defeat and ugly humiliation.

With the closing of this election, at last the issue of Bush's "legitimacy" can be laid to rest forever. At least for the next 4 years. Can anyone honestly tell me how Bush "stole" THIS election?

Unfortunately, even though this election-many of who said it was the most important of our lifetimes is behind us, it will not bring any closure to the deep issues that divide our nation. Look for the left to really be pissed now.

Well, for what it's worth, 2008 is up for grabs, and IMO, will almost certainly be a Democrat victory. I said before that keeping Cheny on the ticket is a mistake. This is 1) he is just as much of an asshole I said Kerry was and 2) no one will be groomed as a successor to Bush 4 years from now. Cheney will be too old and tired, if not dead to run for President. So it will be wide open.


Anyway, speaking of old and tired, I am feeling old and tired, what having been glued to the television until almost midnight last night only to have to get up at 0300 this morning for work.

So once again, thank you all for caring enough to vote. After all, the only thing worse than someone who is a polar opposite of you is someone who doesn't even give a damn to voice his/her opinions.

Good night.
 
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RE: Thank You

Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:30 pm

You're welcome.

I was up until 3am EST (about the same time you were). I didn't expect the closure to come so soon this morning as it did. I too have respect for Senator Kerry on gracefully bowing out. That had to be incredibly difficult. As for Cheney, I'm kind of glad the VP isn't an automatic heir-attempt next election. That leaves the field wide open. It will be a fun horse race to watch. As for Dems, their reaction will be interesting too. They can give us 4 years of sour-grapes calling the American majority a bunch of conservative, Bible-beating, gun-slinging rednecks, or they can try to figure out how to regain Americans' trust in their leadership and figure out whom would best appeal to them.
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RE: Thank You

Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:34 pm

Another troll without a bridge to crawl under.....

Hey, Airplay...next time you get a chance, take a look at Election 2004 on a county-by-county basis. THE ENTIRE COUNTRY IS VIRTUALLY RED!!!!!! What does that tell you? It means that a VAST majority of our country has traditional family values and is conservative. Don't agree with what most of American voters believe? Gee...I'm NOT going to apologize for that. That's who we are. Don't like us? Don't visit us, then.

Given the alternative, I'll take DUBYA anyday of the week, and twice on Sunday, thank you.  Big grin
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RE: Thank You

Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:40 pm

"for bowing out with grace and dignity.."

He just saved his cash. The result would have been the same. You don't need the number two finisher (last place in this case) in any race to announce the winner.  Big grin
 
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RE: Thank You

Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:56 pm

The vote says 51% voted Bush and 48% voted Kerry. The map says in a VAST number of places there were more people voting for Bush. It also says only SLIGHTLY more people voted for Bush. 55.5 million votes came from somewhere and by looking at the map they came from the cities.
 
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RE: Thank You

Thu Nov 04, 2004 1:00 pm

THE ENTIRE COUNTRY IS VIRTUALLY RED!!!!!! What does that tell you? It means that a VAST majority of our country has traditional family values and is conservative.

Not really. Half of those states were states like Wyoming, the Dakotas, Montana, etc. that have tiny populations. With the exception of Texas and Florida, the heavily-populated states (California, New York, Pennsylvania) went blue.

The popular vote was about 52% to 48%, which means the election was much closer than how an electoral vote map appears.



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RE: Thank You

Thu Nov 04, 2004 1:04 pm

take a look at Election 2004 on a county-by-county basis. THE ENTIRE COUNTRY IS VIRTUALLY RED!!!!!! What does that tell you?

Um, a larger number of less populated states voted Bush, while a smaller number of more populated states voted Kerry.

It means that a VAST majority of our country has traditional family values and is conservative.

Vast? Haha, hardly. More like about 130k more than the 60% of the population that's elidgable to vote. Not a vast majority, not a representation of America, and certainly not a mandate.

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RE: Thank You

Thu Nov 04, 2004 1:09 pm

Given the alternative, I'll take DUBYA anyday of the week, and twice on Sunday, thank you.

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RE: Thank You

Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:02 pm

THE ENTIRE COUNTRY IS VIRTUALLY RED!!!!!!

Wow, you did pay attention to the colors and patterns on TV last night weren't you? That's ok; some people it's colors, others it's numbers and facts. And the fact of the matter is that 48% of the United States voted for the democrats. That's not virtually red, in any way you try to put it. Nonetheless, you did pay attention to the nice colors on your TV last night. That's nice. Now, if you can learn to "Share toys with others", you'll have a perfect scorecard next time.
 
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RE: Thank You

Thu Nov 04, 2004 4:27 pm

Can anyone honestly tell me how Bush "stole" THIS election?

Do you really want to know???

First of all, Dubya isn't clever enough...but he's clever enuff do as he is told by Rove. But the 1st thing you must do is unlearn everything you know, or think you know about business and the business of doing business.

Business isn't square dealing and dripping with integrity. Beneath the cute and sexy secretaries and plush offices... it ruthless, conniving and coming out on top at any cost. Laws are broken every second... just don't get caught. The two worse ... well three? The movie biz, music (think Simpson's the 1st to lip sync?) and politics (When did ballot box stuffing begin? When did it go 21st Century high tech? Or did it end?). Street gangs don't descend to the level of viciousness that occurs here.

If you think for one minute that the Electronic Votes accurately corresponded the name of the desired candidate selected by each voter in the 36 states with electronic voting (yes Ohio and Florida was two of them) and remember.... there's no paper trail or receipt given... If you honestly believe that top-to-lower politicos are above employing such an effort.... then you're as gullible as 16-year-old girl from poverty-stricken Romania being told she's going to Milan to model. And shall you remain so for most of your adult life.

Am I angry? Hell no, it's just a fact of life, it's way things are. If Rove and Diebold did pull off what I'm suggesting... I say bravo to them.. because it's to high flying for anyone to except as truth..except those who know nothing..absolutely nothing is out of bounds when 'when doing the business of business'.. . The term corrupt politicians has a reason for existing. Politics as many of you know is serious and 'take-no-prisoners' business (actually most business are) the higher the stakes, the bigger the bucks, the more detriment to the game. But it's a business nonetheless and one where high stakes mean low blows. If you can deny that dirtier tactics are not, could not, can not be employed in politics and the whole process unfold on national televison before every one's very eyes please feel free to prove me wrong.

If your best response to call me a commie pinko conspiracy theorist..save it..I've been called that and worse right hear on A.net. If you have a serious reply....I'd like to hear it.

Can anyone honestly tell me how Bush "stole" THIS election? ...that's how.


BN747




[Edited 2004-11-04 08:35:48]
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RE: Thank You

Thu Nov 04, 2004 4:40 pm

Bitter. Way to take it like a man there BN747.

Verge of a meltdown after all?  Smile
 
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RE: Thank You

Thu Nov 04, 2004 4:52 pm

Bitter. Way to take it like a man there BN747.

Verge of a meltdown after all?


See.. it didn't take long for ignorance to avail itself.

Son..given you don't know squat about the business world or real world for that matter.. this is just one of those adult conversions you should wisely steer clear of..esp. if all you can do is sling mud.


BN747
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RE: Thank You

Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:12 pm

Yup, as I guessed...meltdown.

Sorry for that.



 
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RE: Thank You

Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:15 pm

BN747,

Somehow, I have a hard time believing that you could possibly be THAT cynical! While I agree that politics is a dirty business, and the "business of business" can be downright ugly at times, the wholesale fraud you purport to have happened is delusional at the very least, and sparks of Hollywood hype at best. You sound like one of those people who believe there are "dark men" lurking around every corner, watching your every move. Do you look over your shoulder every time you get on the Internet to post here, or do you only surf the net when you are safe in your "secure" room, off the grid?

While you may have a point about some voter and voting fraud, I am certain it is more an isolated incident or two and not the wholesale bastardization you fear it to be.

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RE: Thank You

Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:17 pm

Son..given you don't know squat about the business world or real world for that matter.. this is just one of those adult conversions you should wisely steer clear of..esp. if all you can do is sling mud.

C'mone BN747 Big grin
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RE: Thank You

Thu Nov 04, 2004 5:36 pm

MxCtrlr

I know we're at odds about all kinds of shit. Nonetheless, I appreciate your input. But the old mantra 'Truth is stranger than fiction' ... could not be more applicable.

If a movie came out in 1990 about two students going off and wiping fellow students in high school... many like you would say..'That's Hollywood for you...'

Yet 4 years later Columbine showed up and took everyone by surprise.

Even in that very real scenario, Harris and Klebold, fantasized about hijacking planes and crashing them into New York City.. that was reported by real tv reporters in the Denver area (see the real clip in Bowling for Columbine). Again if it were a previous movie... many would say again 'That's Hollywood for you...'

While Klebold and Harris verbalized such fantasy.. in real life our own government has said 'not in our wildest dreams could we image such a scheme'...

So is what I suggest... really that far fetched in the face of these very true and real events?

BN747

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RE: Thank You

Thu Nov 04, 2004 11:28 pm

That's who we are. Don't like us? Don't visit us, then.

Well spoken Archie Bunker

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