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People To Be Photoed & Printed Entering ARG

Tue Nov 09, 2004 12:57 pm

[for those who read the related civil aviation thread, this is the place to make non-aviation comments about this matter, which I would really welcome specially other Argentines]

It was just dumb luck that I happened to enter Buenos Aires's La Razón Newspaper's website, and found this! I've read absolutely nothing on this from the argentine crowd here, so either I'm just totally clueless of what's going on, or this will be a surprise to more than one.

So, apparently, starting Jan 01 2005 Argentine AND foreign tourists arriving at EZE and AEP will have photos and fingerprints taken. That will be quickly extended to other important international points of entry, so that means COR, MDZ, etc. Eventually, this system would be deployed at 335 immigration controls! There will also be special cameras at immigration desks to watch over immigration workers and their behavior and work performance, linked to The Central Immigration Net. Many judges and security experts had been asking for this ever since the terrorist attacks of the 1990's, specially the AMIA bombing, which investigations say were carried by arabs who enter the country for those purposes.

The major difference in this case is that citizens will not be exempt from this process (??). The article says this system is to replace the Siemens debacle. But I thought that was about a contract for biometric DNI's, or something like that. I didn't know it included border security (or did it?). In fact, I'm totally confused right about now.

Someone please explain to me what is this all about, if anyone knows? Will this process have to be done every time you enter, or just once??

Bottom line, don't like this at all. I think it's horrible.

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RE: People To Be Photoed & Printed Entering ARG

Tue Nov 09, 2004 1:01 pm

It will probably done everytime you enter. Makes no sense to do it just once.
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RE: People To Be Photoed & Printed Entering ARG

Tue Nov 09, 2004 1:04 pm

Why do I feel this is old news? Didn't this come out a couple months ago?
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RE: People To Be Photoed & Printed Entering ARG

Wed Nov 10, 2004 1:19 pm

There is a HUGE difference between the quality of border control facilities in Argentina. For instance EZE and Puerto Madero are quite good...Tigre, AEP, and all of the Chile crossings seem to be decent....but what about all of the archaic crossings to Paraguay and Bolivia...and what about the lightly manned border controls along the Uruguay...

BTW I am not Argentine but I spend almost as much time in Argentina as I do in the US and have for many years so this affects me and my family some.

I dont understand the point at all. Argentina has the potential to become one of the huge tourist destinations in the world. Everything for tourists has huge potential...skiing, hiking, BsAs, Jesuit remains, etc, the people of Argentina are well educated and foreign language instruction is decent. What Argentina needs to work on is improving facilities to better accomodate more tourists in a more efficient manner rather than creating a system of fingerprints and photos and the huge inefficient bloated bureaucracy that is sure to go with it. Why not fix the arrivals hall at Ezeiza, or work on a train line from Ezeiza to Once....why not spend the money on marketing Argentina to the world..why not spend the money hiring cops or fixing some of the really dilapidated areas of Boca. This program might have been dreamed up so that Argentina could be cleared from being an area of suspected terror by the world community, but the facts are that with the exception of two incidents in the 90s and stupid allegations about its Misiones Province being a traveling point for Hezbollah guerillas from Ciudad del Este...Argentina is as safe as anywhere. Buenos Aires is not a likely target nor an attractive one, and neither is Argentina. I would say wait for five years and let other countries experiment with different systems as some are doing now and many are planning, and then buy one...but now????????????? No way...funnel that money to those people who will contribute to sustained economic growth for Argentina....those arent bureaucrats as we all know.
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