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Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:05 pm

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20041109/wl_nm/mideast_arafat_dc_125

Rueters report, hasn't made the big news channels yet.
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:10 pm

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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:11 pm

It's about time, the suspense was killing me.

Uh, maybe a bad turn of phrase there?  Big grin

Now, he's facing Allah, and explaining all his sins. I don't envy him even now.
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:14 pm

Now, he's facing Allah, and explaining all his sins. I don't envy him even now.

I think he just realized their are no virgins in hell.

[Edited 2004-11-11 05:14:32]
 
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:16 pm

May there now be peace.......
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:19 pm

May there now be peace.......

God, if it were that easy, we'd have nothing to yell about with each other. It might be boring here, but the world certainly would be a better place.
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:20 pm

Scumbags at Al Jazeera are reporting it now, also US main news agencies

"I think he just realized their are no virgins in hell."

I'll second that!!


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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:22 pm

Ding dong the witch is dead...

Now I guess we get to listen to his widow spurt out conspiracy theories....

[Edited 2004-11-11 05:24:22]
 
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:23 pm

God, if it were that easy, we'd have nothing to yell about with each other. It might be boring here, but the world certainly would be a better place.,

Indeed. But Arafat's death is the best sign of a possible peace deal that I've seen in a while........Arafat was simply not interested in making peace with Israel. He spent his life fighting Israel and he died still fighting Israel. It's time for somebody to take over his shoes.
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:26 pm

Agreed, Rjpieces, but I still think we need to get rid of Sharon, and stay away from a nut like Netenyahu. Israel needs a Begin or a Rabin right now, and I don't know if they have one.

Btw, this might be a great time to restart some serious US push towards peace in that region. Who would be a good choice for Bush to send to get the ball rolling again?
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:28 pm

When is the service for him?

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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:28 pm

Unfortunately, with his passing, I think you will see an all-out civil war in the West Bank and Gaza. This isn't (unfortunately) going to advance peace in the near-term.

Good luck Israel and Palestine - You'll both need it for the bloodshed to come!

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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:32 pm

May he rot in Hell for all eternity.
 
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:42 pm

Good luck Israel and Palestine - You'll both need it for the bloodshed to come!

I don't think Israel needs to worry as much. Their anti-terrorism campaign that has been working for years will continue to be effecive. The Palestinians will need to worry more about who takes over.

Agreed, Rjpieces, but I still think we need to get rid of Sharon, and stay away from a nut like Netenyahu. Israel needs a Begin or a Rabin right now, and I don't know if they have one.

I disagree......Leftist politicans in Israel can NEVER achieve peace. It takes a hawk like Begin or Sharon to take the difficult steps of giving up land for peace. Sharon is the epitome of Israel; Only somebody like him can do what needs to be done IMO.

Btw, this might be a great time to restart some serious US push towards peace in that region.

I agree. But ONLY if the new Palestinian leader is serious about peace. I pray that he is........

Who would be a good choice for Bush to send to get the ball rolling again?

Got me. Any ideas?
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:44 pm

Gettin a little hot down there, Ara-fathead?  Laugh out loud

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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:45 pm

Got me. Any ideas?

Want to reach out to Democrats, and get them behind you, Mr. President?

Send your predecessor, who worked very hard at achieving a peace between the Palestinians and Israeli's.

Think Bush could ever do that?  Smile
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:48 pm

This has not been a good year for terrorists. Old and new.

I hope he repents his sins. He has a lot of them!

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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:48 pm

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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:50 pm

Want to reach out to Democrats, and get them behind you, Mr. President?

Send your predecessor, who worked very hard at achieving a peace between the Palestinians and Israeli's.

Think Bush could ever do that?


Funny that you say that. I was going to throw his name out but I assumed that it would never happen. It would be interesting though.......
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:50 pm

All we need now is for Sharon to go. That'll be a start
 
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:56 pm

Rjpieces, I think it would be a master stroke for him to do it. He'd get a double dose of credit, one for moving the peace process along, and secondly, for making such a bold move politically that has ramifications on the domestic scene.
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:57 pm

Israel certainly need Sharon to go now. Ol Yassir's popping it isn't going to be much help without several changes from the Israeli side as well. Expecting instant peace now is just wishful thinking. It's not as if the Israelis have been all angel-like over the years.
 
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:57 pm

Allah yer7amou.

Now it is time for the other roadblock to peace to go, Ariel Sharon.

We need a leader who will be willing to meet the demands the Palestinians have been asking for the past 30 years, 22% of historical Palestine. Only the land that Israel stole in 1967.

That's all the Palestinians want in exchange for peace.

As always, Israel gets the better end of the deal, but it is never enough for them.

As with the many peace initiatives in which Israel would give some land to the Palestinians, Israel would always have to maintain some sort of control over it.

The Palestinians will not settle for anything less than the lands that Israel took in 1967. Israel needs a leader that acknowledges that.

Only then will there ever be peace.

Rabin may have been able to achieve it if he wasn't assassinated by a Jewish extremist who thought he was giving too much to the Palestinians...

I'm afraid all I see happening is the Likud party taking advantage of the lack of leadership the Palestinians have now since they lost their single most influential leader by being even more hesitant in making any concessions.

I don't see peace coming until there is a change in leadership on the Israeli side now.

We need fresh leaders on both sides.

[Edited 2004-11-11 06:00:52]
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:04 pm

"Only the land that Israel stole in 1967."

Explain to me again how they stole the land...I know a bit about that war, don't remember Israel building up its military for sometime leading up to the extinction of surrounding Arab lands.
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:05 pm

What did he die from? None the news channels said what he had that made him die.
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:05 pm

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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:06 pm

I still haven't seen where capturing the land in a war equates to stealing it.

Particularly when the victors didn't start the war in the first place!!!
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Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:12 pm

 
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:15 pm

I still haven't seen where capturing the land in a war equates to stealing it.

Particularly when the victors didn't start the war in the first place!!!


Incorrect. Contrary to popular belief, the Arabs did not start the 1967 war.

I share some quotes from Israeli leaders admitting to starting the war and provoking the Arab nations.

"The thesis that the danger of genocide was hanging over us in June 1967 and that Israel was fighting for its physical existence is only bluff, which was born and developed after the war." Israeli General Matityahu Peled, Ha'aretz, 19 March 1972.

Here is a segment of an article that talks about Israel taking the Golan Heights from Syria in the 1967 war.

Furthermore, The New York Times, May 11, 1997 said in an article that Moshe Dayan, the Minister of defense at the time admitted that Israel provoked the war on the Syrian side and occupied the Golan Heights out of greed for more land.

"Moshe Dayan, the celebrated commander who, as Defense Minister in 1967, gave the order to conquer the Golan...[said] many of the firefights with the Syrians were deliberately provoked by Israel, and the kibbutz residents who pressed the Government to take the Golan Heights did so less for security than for the farmland...[Dayan stated] 'They didn't even try to hide their greed for the land...We would send a tractor to plow some area where it wasn't possible to do anything, in the demilitarized area, and knew in advance that the Syrians would start to shoot. If they didn't shoot, we would tell the tractor to advance further, until in the end the Syrians would get annoyed and shoot, and then we would use artillery and later the air force also, and that's how it was...The Syrians, on the fourth day of the war, were not a threat to us.'"


Israel's Defense Minister of 1967 PUBLICALLY admits to stealing the Golan Heights out of GREED for more land...

This part of the article has to do with Egypt:

Israel has always claimed that the 1967 war was a self defense as the Arabs started the war and wanted to destroy Israel at that time.

There are several evidence that this is not necessarily true. Israel has always wanted the West Bank and Gaza Strip and especially East Jerusalem.

Noam Chomsky, a Jewish intellectual, argued against that in his book, "The Fateful Triangle".

"The former Commander of the Air Force, General Ezer Weitzman, regarded as a hawk, stated that there was 'no threat of destruction' but that the attack on Egypt, Jordan and Syria was nevertheless justified so that Israel could 'exist according the scale, spirit, and quality she now embodies.'...Menahem Begin had the following remarks to make: 'In June 1967, we again had a choice. The Egyptian Army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.' "Noam Chomsky, "The Fateful Triangle."

The late Prime Misniter of Israel, Yitzhaq Rabin, assassinated by a Jewish fanatic Igal Ameer in 1995 affirms that Egypt did not want to attack Israel.

"I do not think Nasser wanted war. The two divisions he sent to The Sinai would not have been sufficient to launch an offensive war. He knew it and we knew it." Rabin said in an article published in Le Monde French paper on 2/28/68 as he was Israel's Chief of Staff in 1967.


http://www.imemc.org/headlines/2004/June/week1/060504/1967-war.htm

Here is another lovely quote. Moshe Sharett quoting what Moshe Dayan had once said in his dairies:

"The state.... must see the sword as the main if not the only, instrument with which to keep its morale high and to retain its moral tension. Toward this end it may -- no it MUST -- invent dangers, and to do this it must adopt the method of provocation and revenge.... And above all, let us hope for a new war with the Arab countries so that we may finally get rid of our troubles and acquire our space." Diary of Moshe Sharett, Israeli's first Foreign Minister from 1948-1956, and Prime Minister from 1954-1956.

[Edited 2004-11-11 06:30:06]
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:15 pm

Leviticus, nice picture but it needs a better punch line.

With the way his eyes are bugging out maybe, "I'M THE VIRGIN!?!?!" would be more appropriate.
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:33 pm

Good! 1 less terrorist on this earth. I really hope the peace process can get started again soon!

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[Edited 2004-11-11 06:34:15]
 
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:37 pm

BA.

If true, it still doesn't change the fact if the arab league lost the war.


Ranks right up there with the US trying to claim back the land we lost in 1812.
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:42 pm

I'm cracking open this Heineken in honor of Yassar Arafat. Here's to your 72 virgins, sucka!
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:45 pm

Actually, wait, wait, wait...

Hey, Arafat, here's something that I hope drapes your coffin...

You anti-semetic, Hitler reincarnate...



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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:48 pm



Perhaps slightly better  Nuts
 
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:54 pm

Whoa, I agree with Jcs17 for once, except the anti-semitic part. Arabs are semites too. Nevertheless, I think it's a good time for the peace process to move on. Whether it does or not, is another story.

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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:56 pm

Actually, wait, wait, wait...

Hey, Arafat, here's something that I hope drapes your coffin...

You anti-semetic, Hitler reincarnate...


JCS, do you mind me asking if you are Jewish? I never thought you were......But you seem to have a deep hatred of Arafat! Way to go!  Smile
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:59 pm

Jcs has a deep hatred of Arafat because it's just the republican thing to do.
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 3:01 pm

Jcs has a deep hatred of Arafat because it's just the republican thing to do.

Hatred of Arafat is something that should be felt by all freedom loving Americans. Even in this thread alone, many Americans, Dems like Falcon and Repubs. like JCS, agree on how awful Arafat was. Saying he hates Arafat because he is a Republican is childish.
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 3:04 pm

Listen to yourself guys.....

Arafat might not have been a good guy. And that I have seen my self.
But it sure as hell are alot of jews out there who aren't good either.
There are so many arab hating jews around this world as well. So my qestion is to you: Where is your hatred towards them??

I'm not supporting any of the sides. But it makes me sick to see how so many of you behave in here.

Edit: BTW... If all the jews are peace lovers. Let me ask you this then as well:
Who shot Mr Rabin? I guess all of you know the answer to that.

[Edited 2004-11-11 07:08:32]
 
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 3:04 pm

I don't hate Arafat, but I don't condone his actions either.

No who I really hate is Ariel Sharon.
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 3:05 pm

Good news. Another terrorist gone.






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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 3:08 pm

...Now if only we could get the one that we're actually after
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 3:09 pm

...Now if only we could get the one that we're actually after

His time will come and he can join his fellow Jewhating, American hating Arafat wherever the heck God sent them.
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 3:09 pm

JCS, do you mind me asking if you are Jewish? I never thought you were......But you seem to have a deep hatred of Arafat! Way to go!

No, I'm Catholic. However, my cousin (who is also Catholic) has had three friends die in Israel as a result of homocide bombers.
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 3:10 pm

No, I'm Catholic. However, my cousin (who is also Catholic) has had three friends die in Israel as a result of homocide bombers.

Sorry to hear that.....Thank God we have a President who realizes that Israel is on the front lines of the War on Arab terror and treats them accordingly.
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 3:31 pm

Allah yer7amou.

Whatever he was, the guy is dead now, let's at least respect that. He tried to do what he thought was the best for the country. No one is perfect and the situation in the middle east is tough. I'm very unbiased towards to this conflict, but the Palistinians are suffering and their plight needs to be addressed!
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 3:45 pm

I will not shed a tear for this man. He built his life around terror, and I reject all claims that he was "reformed", he never shied away from terrorism or his goal of destorying the Jewish state.
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RE: Yasser Arafat Dead!

Thu Nov 11, 2004 3:50 pm

Are his lips still flapping around?????
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Thu Nov 11, 2004 4:02 pm

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