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Michael Moore Does Not Speak For All..

Sun Nov 14, 2004 1:48 am

OK, after re-reading A.net's copyright material requirements I see what I did wrong the first time to get this article removed...so I will try again.

The following is a link to an Opinion Page from the Tennessean, the local Nashville, TN newspaper. Most of what you will read is direct from the mother of a local Marine killed in action in Iraqi and her thoughts of Michael Moore's use of her son image in his movie Fahrenheit 9/11. I think it was well said... what do you think...?

http://tennessean.com/opinion/columnists/chavez/archives/04/11/61255182.shtml
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RE: Michael Moore Does Not Speak For All..

Sun Nov 14, 2004 2:08 am

Michael Moore thinks these fallen men were just cannon fodder for Bush's war. Yet Moore uses these same men as fodder for his own political uses.

I often wonder how Michael Moore can use official U.S. Government photos of fallen service personel without the permission of the families. The use of these images for a non-newsworthy item should be cause for gaining the permission for the use of those photos from those families that have lost their loved ones.

Again, Moore does not care for these people other than for his own gains. He never did.

Pathetic.
 
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Sun Nov 14, 2004 2:11 am

I would love to see how much Liberalism Mr. Moore would still be in to if we took away his millions made from "9/11" and gave it to the poor.
 
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Sun Nov 14, 2004 2:14 am

I agree with this mother absolutely. Moore is a bloodsucker who is making a fortune off of the blood of the dead, as well as pretending to "fight for the truth", which happens to be completely warped and about as far from the truth as can be - aimed at the lowest common denominator - people who are too lazy to think for themselves and read up on issues in detail (like reading the 9/11 commision report or the Iraq Intel report), which unfortunately includes most of the population.

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Sun Nov 14, 2004 2:20 am

My school held its annual pep rally yesterday. Its held at our stadium "the swamp" and is a pretty big production. The name of the rally is called "Gator Growl" and one of the on screen gimmicks is they get celebrities to say "Let the Gator Growl".

Anyways, Michael Moore spoke at my school a few weeks ago and they filmed him saying "Let the Gator Growl". Once everyone saw his face on the huge screen the whole stadium started booing (60,000+). Sad day for socialism.
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Sun Nov 14, 2004 2:47 am

While I believe our presence in Iraq to be a needless and costly mistake, I do agree with what was said about Michael Moore. Moore is just as adept at exploiting public tragedy for personal gain as President Bush is. I've only seen a part of "Faranhiet 911," but what I did see made me ill. Pass the airsick bag!

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RE: Michael Moore Does Not Speak For All..

Sun Nov 14, 2004 4:06 am


In my book MM is the best that happend lately in documentary movies!

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Sun Nov 14, 2004 6:00 am

In my book MM is the best that happend lately in documentary movies!

I didn't know Mickey Mouse did documentaries!
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RE: Michael Moore Does Not Speak For All..

Mon Nov 15, 2004 12:07 am

Mickey Mouse has done some documentaries, I believe they are on the Disney Channel.

Michael Moore is an explotist whose movies are not documentaries but a way to make money. The 9/11 film had more holes in it than swiss cheese. Unfortunately, because it has "documentary" attached people believe that it has passed some sort of litmus test.
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Mon Nov 15, 2004 2:12 am

How many of you have actually read "Dude, Where's My Country?" He actually makes a lot of sense in it, and not just about the stuff that comprised the bulk of Fahrenheit 9/11. I'm not a liberal, and I agree with a lot of what he says in the book. Him using this dead soldier for his own agenda is much like the Bush Administration's use of Jessica Lynch for their own agenda in Iraq. If you haven't read this book, you need to, while he does promote his pseudo-Socialist-Green agenda in it (I don't agree with all of his rants), some of the things he says in the book are quite logical. For example, in one part of the book, he says that paying employees a living wage actually makes a company more money. This is because employees that are paid low wages end up working two or three jobs to make ends meet, and as a result, productivity suffers all around. A tired employee is more prone to make mistakes, to have work accidents, to leave early, be sick more often, all things that cut into their overall job performance. People that don't make a living wage many times end up turning to the government for assistance, and who ends up paying for this? The taxpayers do, and as a result, we all end up paying higher taxes to continually support these programs. Paying a living wage is good for the economy as well, as your employees will have spendable income, money that could be spent on items you make or sell, and in turn, you make more money. Laying employees off or paying them low wages means they don't have a disposable income, and some will turn to crime to make ends meet. They won't be stealing the beat up junker in their neighbor's driveway; they'll be going after that $40,000 car parked in the driveway of some executive. If companies paid a living wage, then folks probably wouldn't be having to steal and rob to make ends meet, and that's beneficial to all.
 
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RE: Michael Moore Does Not Speak For All..

Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:02 am

Is he still around? Stupid twat...  Yeah sure  Yeah sure
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Mon Nov 15, 2004 8:26 am

Michael Moore is a great person, truth is what he is all about. He speaks for me !!!
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RE: Michael Moore Does Not Speak For All..

Mon Nov 15, 2004 8:37 am

Do Solnabo and DC10guy ever wonder why no one seems to take them seriously?

SRBMOD I respect your opinions about the equity of life and economics, but if you fact check the points used by Moore throughout his books, you will be disappointed to find that he misuses excerpts of quotes, manipulates people into situations he uses in a way they did not intend (ask Trey Parker and Matt Stone about this), and takes what might seem like a logical position to endorse non-sensical positions. There is room for more logic in payscales, but these scales are always set by what the market will bear. Moore believes that any profit taken by business is wrong, according to every rant of his I have heard, except for the publishing companies that pay him for the books and movies. We have yet to see him donate most of his money to the poor, and he continually makes us look bad to everyone, including those who want to agree with him.
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RE: Michael Moore Does Not Speak For All..

Mon Nov 15, 2004 9:57 am

Michael Moore is a great person, truth is what he is all about. He speaks for me !!!


he directed the video for "All the way to Reno" and that's good enough for me...

The anti-Moore faction was seriously damaged when some slobbering jerk put out a response to his 911 film, and then proceeded to promote it using a crass title and website michaelmoorehatesamerica.com

Way to go, loser. Shoot yourself in the arse by immediately doing the "why do you hate America" waltz on anyone who dares put an alternative point of view across.

Land of the free? Not in their eyes. In the beliefs of these political retards anyone who wants to exercise free speech is an enemy who hates the Homeland.

Shades of 1930s Germany if you ask me, and that's NOT healthy at all...
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RE: Michael Moore Does Not Speak For All..

Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:05 am

Michael Moore is a great person, truth is what he is all about. He speaks for me !!!

Dude..did you EVEN READ the link I posted...? Michael Moore is NOT SPEAKING for the people he claims his is. That was the whole point of that opinion page.

Land of the free? Not in their eyes. In the beliefs of these political retards anyone who wants to exercise free speech is an enemy who hates the Homeland.

Yes, but you do not have the right to take someones image, without their permission and say they share your views when they really do not. That is what has happened here.



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RE: Michael Moore Does Not Speak For All..

Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:12 am

Michael Moore is such a jerk. I recently saw "Bowling for Columbine"...after avoiding it all these years. I just wanted to see what this a**hole is all about. The stuff he speaks in that "documentary" - if you could call it that, is total bulls***! But I'm sure most of you guys know that already.

I have to say..he is the most un-american american I have ever seen! If he dislikes his own country and its President so much, then why the hell is he still hanging around there? He must go and settle down in a nice neighborhood of Baghdad and "help" the Iraqis defeat Bush. LOL..he is one sick fat SOB.
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RE: Michael Moore Does Not Speak For All..

Mon Nov 15, 2004 7:10 pm

When I first saw the title of the thread, I thought it said "Michael Moore does not speak at all".

I thought to myself, IT'S ABOUT DAMN TIME!

Then I open the thread and realize otherwise.

Too bad he doesn't stop breathing too  Big grin

Kirkie- I couldn't have put it better myself..
Is he still around? Stupid twat...

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RE: Michael Moore Does Not Speak For All..

Mon Nov 15, 2004 8:57 pm

(ask Trey Parker and Matt Stone about this

I understand they had a field daywith him in that puppet movie they just did.
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RE: Michael Moore Does Not Speak For All..

Mon Nov 15, 2004 9:03 pm

You guys should be happy that Michael is around.
He actually helped you with this election  Laugh out loud

With all the shit he made before the election, even the democrats probably got tired of listening to him, and wanted him to shut the hell up.
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RE: Michael Moore Does Not Speak For All..

Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:58 pm

>>>I've only seen a part of "Faranhiet 911," but what I did see made me ill. Pass the airsick bag!

Here I am!
Seriously though, I read part of a book of his - this guy is a master of patching together half-truths, hearsay and rumours to a disgusting quilt of conspiracy theories. The technique he uses is very dangerous, it´s very easy to believe what he says and writes because it sounds oh so logical - if you´re too lazy to be bothered with hard facts. He accuses his enemies of utilising cheap propaganda tactics, yet does the same.

I returned the book to the store because I couldn´t stand the thought of contributing to this person´s wealth.

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RE: Michael Moore Does Not Speak For All..

Tue Nov 16, 2004 12:07 am

Moore is completely one sided, has he EVER talked about the opposing side in any one of his arguments? No. Bottom line is, there are two sides to every story. Moore just gives on side, the only people who follow his words are ignorant people, who might as well live in a box.
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