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GOP Wants To Change Rules To Protect Tom Delay

Thu Nov 18, 2004 2:09 am

In another bit of proof that ethics mean nothing to the GOP, Republicans in the House are trying to amend the rules to alllow someone indicted for a felony to keep his position of power in the House.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/17/delay.ap/index.html

Delay could face indictment in Texas for improprieties involved in Texas redistricting.

And for Republicans to wail about a partisian political attack, sure have short memories, don't they.

Delay is an arrogant extremist. I'd love nothing more than to see him tossed out in disgrace.
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RE: GOP Wants To Change Rules To Protect Tom Delay

Thu Nov 18, 2004 2:23 am

Hey Randy..... I like this part.....

"There is no indication that DeLay faces charges,..the investigation -- led by a retiring Democratic prosecutor.."


just one of those things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....


 
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RE: GOP Wants To Change Rules To Protect Tom Delay

Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:21 am

While I would love to see a lightning rod type figure like DeLay gone, this isn't going to be the thing to do it. The fact is, DeLay, in the redistricting episode, is pulling exactly what the Democrats did during the previous redistricting, only in reverse. The impropriety here is that this retiring Democrat partisan has some friends that are pissed off because they don't have a seat in Congress anymore. In any state where the census mandates a redistricting, the party in power does so to their advantage. This is a big deal because "getting DeLay" is as important for Democrats as "getting Daschle" was for Republicans.

"In another bit of proof that ethics mean nothing to the GOP..."
Interesting theory, but it is not true. However, for fellow Republicans out there, this should be illustrative of how someone as abrasive and brazen as DeLay is, reflects upon the rest of us, and why people like him need to go. There are others who work to maintain the Party just as hard as DeLay, yet they are no less successful and yet they are not hated. Look at Denny Hastert.
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RE: GOP Wants To Change Rules To Protect Tom Delay

Thu Nov 18, 2004 12:39 pm

Cwapilot, I may not agree with your whole post, but it was very balanced and to the point. Nice post.
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RE: GOP Wants To Change Rules To Protect Tom Delay

Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:10 pm

Cwapilot-yes, a good, objective post. However, I do feel that ethics mean very little to the "GOP" (God, I hate that moniker). I have posted this in other threads, but for some reason, no one seems to have cared (maybe no one will care here, either). The Union of Concerned Scientists has published two reports, signed by Nobel Laureates, Medal of Science receipients, and other scientists, that describe how this Adminstration has denegrated the meaning of science, and how they have forced scientists to compromise their findings to the GOPs end (sorry, I do not have their website handy, but Google is a beautiful thing). I, for one, have been personally ridiculed for expressing the truth, and I am tired of it. I love my job, and I take great pains to do my job objectively; whether my conclusions support my political leanings or not. I wish I could go further on this, but I cannot, as I want to put food on my table for days to come. Let's just say that I stood my ground on an important issue, and my contractee said, well, thanks, we will draw our own conclusions. Those clearly dictated by the Bush "Administration."

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RE: GOP Wants To Change Rules To Protect Tom Delay

Thu Nov 18, 2004 3:55 pm

I'm so happy to finally read a civil political discussion on here. I've tried to stay out of previous ones, because they resemble nothing more than drunken bar room bantering with each side admitting nothing more but their contempt for the 'other side' and no resolutions whatsoever. There's nothing to be learned from that. Logan, I've been concerned of this for a while. I'm happy to hear you're standing strong on your position. I'm trying to remember the post where one of our 16 year old conservative pundits on here took the stance to denigrate a "Nobel Laureate" as a liberal mouthpiece. Amazing isn't it?

Anyway, on the subject of Delay (I'm stemming this from his ethics committee investigation)....was he ethically wrong in his actions? I'd say so. But at the same time, I don't believe that ethics rank very high on any politician's list. I believe that a person of good moral character who takes a false step will admit it, seek to understand what went wrong, and try to prevent it from happening. That's just me though. Now I'm thinking of the resolution of this. Would it solve anything if he's gone? Would it send a message if he stays? Only more division and more arguing.

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RE: GOP Wants To Change Rules To Protect Tom Delay

Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:50 pm

In another bit of proof that ethics mean nothing to the GOP, Republicans in the House are trying to amend the rules to alllow someone indicted for a felony to keep his position of power in the House.

While I'd like to see DeLay tossed into 'the Clink' (along side Martha Stewart)... Falcon aren't you the same guy who told me that 'someone found guilty of vote tampering' would 'go to jail'... and here is a clear cut case of felonious activity not only being overlooked, but the rules changed to accomodate a single individual and a promotion in store?

Welcome to the world of power my man... theres' rules .. then theres' schmules...


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