"now, on Ben wallace, it´s hard to determine. He was only involved in pushing Artest, and then going after him. But when alll the fights started to happen, he kept out of them. He shoud get a 4/5 game suspension. Also, bear in mind he´s just lost a brother. I understand Ben´s reaction. He is not emotionally stable, and he got Ron Artest bothering him all game.
- Were you watching the same fight/game I was? The "push" you're talking about could have seriously injured Artest. If that "push" would have hit him in his Larynx, say good night! What Artest did immediately after that "push" was the right thing, get away from the aggressor. He was laying on the scorers bench actually talking with the Pacers' radio play by play game crew when the benches were jaw jackin' with each other on the court in front of him.
What Artest did after that was WRONG!
Never, ever go into the stands. As far as Artests' "Self Defense" angle, it's not going to fly. The person who threw the cup was too far away and he did not know what
person actually threw the cup.
And as far as Ben is concerned, if "He is not emotionally stable
," why is he in the game? I understand all too much about bereavement. If he needs time off, don't play. If you do play, don't come back with that "bereavement card" and use it as an excuse for doing something stupid. Writers are calling the foul Artest laid on Wallace as "A Hard Foul." That was a love tap in the NBA. Ever watch Shaq play? And what Wallace was doing during the melee was cheering and "eggin'" on people, mostly the ones in the stands! Where in the heck were the coaches? Why didn't one of them actually grab him (Wallace) and pull him off the court? Everyone knew he was going to get tossed from the game!
What Stephen Jackson did was way, way over the line! Jackson will get a minimum of 30 games.
When Artest got back on the court, it was a fan that approached him and squared off on Ron. I don't condone Artest or O'Neal poundin' the guy, but I don't blame them for it either. Who knows what anyone would have done in that situation. I understand Artests' reaction a little more than O'Neal's. O'Neal was a distance away from that incident and came running into the scene. O'Neal will get at least 30 games as well. Who knows about Artest!
Wallace ought to get as many games off as the rest of them. And what about The Palace? Once again, security? What security? How about the NBA handing down a penalty that (on top of the player suspensions), well, how about two games to be played with no fans in the stands? Why not?
Just pay back the ticket holders the value of the tickets! Or how about a couple games with no alcohol sold? Period. The problem with that is there were 22,000 people that paid (good) money for tickets. It was a small percentage, very small at that, that was causing the problem. Has anyone seen ESPN's poll question of the night (Saturday night)? Look it up. Over 200,000 people took part of the poll and about 48% of those voting blame the crowd. Interesting.
"It is quite ironic that this did happen in Detroit, a city with terrible image in the first place............
- You're right, it could have happened anywhere, but why are people blaming "The City of Detroit?" It's not the fault of the city, The Palace isn't in Detroit, it's not even in the same freakin' county. If you mean southeast Michigan, then say it. Detroit doesn't need any bad press.
- Did anyone else see the interview that Jim Gray (or is it Grey) did with that Auburn Hills chief officer from the police department? I don't think the guy ever did answer either question Jim asked! Sounded like he skated around both of them!
- The reason for the lengthy post? I am one of those people that spend "Good Money" every year, about 4 or 5 games a year to see an NBA game (Pacers home games of course). And I'm talking about those three digit dollar seats! No nose bleed seats for me. I never want to see anything like that happen again in professional sports.
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