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Wed Nov 24, 2004 11:57 pm

http://www.cfra.com/headlines/index.asp?cat=2&nid=21999

Camden New Jersey - America's Most Dangerous City
Josh Pringle
Monday, November 22, 2004

Camden, New Jersey has been named America's most dangerous city.

According to a company's annual ranking based on crime statistics, Camden snatched the top spot from Detroit.

Atlanta, St. Louis and Gary, Ind. rounded out the top five in the most dangerous city rankings by Morgan Quitno Corp.

The rankings look at the rate for six crime categories: Murder, rape, robbery, aggravated assault, burglary and auto theft. It compares 350 cities with populations of 75,000 or more that reported crime data to the FBI.

Whats the most dangerous city in your country?

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Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:04 am

According to a company's annual ranking based on crime statistics, Camden snatched the top spot from Detroit.

Geez, Detroit can't do anything right anymore  Smile
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:06 am

In France, no doubt, the most dangerous is Moncuq.
In second position, probably a town in the suburbs of Paris, Lyon or Marseille.
 
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:11 am

Geez, Detroit can't do anything right anymore

Isn't that the truth...... However, I'll bet if you averaged out the last 20, maybe 30 years, Detroit would be the run away winner.
 
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:16 am

Prosimtec

What is this! Now that the elections are over, it's time to Bash Detroit!!!!


On behalf of the over 5 million in the Metro area.

F.O.!!!!
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:22 am



On behalf of the over 5 million in the Metro area.

F.O.!!!!


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Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:30 am

I would think that any city that could set a river alight was a dangerous one...or a stupid one  Big grin
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:38 am

In France, no doubt, the most dangerous is Moncuq.

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Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:48 am

In Denmark you have to look out for:

1.Vollsmose(Part of Odense)
2.Blågården(Part of Copenhagen)
3.Gjellerupparken(Part of Århus)

Unfortunatly we have alot of problems with 2.generation foreigners who commites crime all the time in those places. Not even the Buses goes thru those neighbourhoods anymore after so many busdrivers has gotten their ass kicked and robbed.

And the Ambulance and Firebrigade does not enter that area without police protection. A couple of years ago a paramedic got hurt badly after a idiot threw a brick in his face. And the firetrucks are being bombarded by bricks and rocks as well.
 
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:51 am

and Gary, Ind.

Gary, Ind??? LMFAO!

Just one of the many reasons that its the best city in America.  Big grin
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:55 am

I would hazard a guess at all of them..  Big grin
 
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 1:04 am

Prosimtec:

After living in New York, Germany and Switzerland, this is why I stay in Detroit!!!

1. Reasonable real estate prices
2. Great freeways, no tolls, and moderate traffic
3. The Detroit Opera House
4. Comerica Park
5. Ford Field
6. Only city in the continental US North of Canada
7. The Northwest Worldgateway
8. Detroit Symphony Orchestra Hall
9. Verners, Saunders, Faygo
10. The Detroit Institute of Arts
11. The Henry Ford/Greenfield Village
12. Cranbrook Arts Community
13. Cadillac's are cheaper in Detroit
14. Eire, Huron, Michigan, Superior
15. Oakland Country (#4 wealthiest in the US)
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 1:06 am

WTF!!! What happened to Cleveland?
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 1:07 am

Atlanta, #3 most dangerous city, #2 meanest city for the homeless, I love this town!
 
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 1:48 am

In Denmark you have to look out for:

1.Vollsmose(Part of Odense)
2.Blågården(Part of Copenhagen)
3.Gjellerupparken(Part of Århus)

Unfortunatly we have alot of problems with 2.generation foreigners who commites crime all the time in those places.


They why does Denmark let these people in? Turning once safe areas into unsafe ethnic enclaves. What is Denmark trying to accomplish?
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 1:56 am

They why does Denmark let these people in? Turning once safe areas into unsafe ethnic enclaves. What is Denmark trying to accomplish?

Why did Canada let so many foreigners in?

@OYRJA

Is it really so bad? I know there are some areas in Germany which I wouldn't regard as safe, but I've never heard such bad things.  Confused

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Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:04 am

The most dangerous place in Denmark is Glostrup, thats for sure! *muuahaaha*

In Sweden, its Rosengård, Malmö.

I thought DC was #1 in US!?!

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Thu Nov 25, 2004 5:12 am

I thought DC was #1 in US!?!

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Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:00 am

I am about 1-2 miles outside of Camden. Not surprised by it's ranking..it's kinda amusing. I listen to my local police on the scanner, and every time something gets stolen, or someone is on the run, the first thing they do is to cut off any exits to the 'city'. That seems to be the escape route for every criminal in my area nowadays. So many shootings, rapes, murders, beatings happen there you become numb to it. They have been trying their best to revitalize it, the best of example of this is the camden waterfront, where things are really turning around; the River Sharks stadium, the Aquarium, and the USS New Jersey just to name a few. Maybe it will get better over the years, and who knows, one day it might just return to the beautiful city in was in it's prime.

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Thu Nov 25, 2004 8:35 am

Prosimtec:

After living in New York, Germany and Switzerland, this is why I stay in Detroit!!!.....blah blah blah............


You know (hopefully), I live in the Detroit Metro area too! Quit trying to sound like a travel brochure and open your eyes. Detroit is not only THE most dangerous city in the country, but the most corrupt. If you want to single me our for an argument, then you've got one. Unfortunately, it's at the expense of this thread. However, I can be contacted through this website.

It starts a the top man!

Case(s) in point:

Suburbs can't get a straight answer from the Water and Sewage Dept. regarding the rates they charge.

Oakland County, as you correctly pointed out as the 4th wealthiest in the nation, and by the way where the company I own is based. Has recently had added an additional 3 years payment on the LAST Cobo expansion, from the wonderful City of Detroit, without the Counties consent. And who now, also want additional funding from Oakland County for FUTURE expansion of Cobo. And oh yeah! Did I point out that Detroit won't open the books on Cobo for anyone to see how the money is being spent! Brook Patterson has hired Plant and Moran to investigate before spending any more of his taxpayers money.

Shall I go into the Mayor Kwame and his family members who run a charity, whislt drawing 6 figure salaries from said charity?

Shall we talk about how the casinos, who by the way, STILL haven't built permanent structures after 9 years, STOLE the election and AMENDED the Michigan constitution by spending 20 million dollars to protect themselves from competition?

Shall we talk about the soon to be bankrupt school system, that has lost over 9000 students, while the CEO has 30,000 dollars worth of work done to his office?

I haven't even gotten to the Police or Prosecuters Dept yet.

Where do you want to begin?




 
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 8:39 am

Sebolino: In France, no doubt, the most dangerous is Moncuq.

What is that? I found "Montcuq" but I never heard about this town? Maybe you meant "mon cul"?? That's where you live?  Laugh out loud

In the US, I always heard Oakland, CA (Raiders Nation) was the most Most Dangerous City In America?
 
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 2:37 pm

They why does Denmark let these people in? Turning once safe areas into unsafe ethnic enclaves. What is Denmark trying to accomplish?

Well.... Pelican just answered my question. And another thing is that 2. generation refugees are born in Denmark. So we can't throw them out  Sad
Even if many danes really want to change the rules for that.

@OYRJA

Is it really so bad? I know there are some areas in Germany which I wouldn't regard as safe, but I've never heard such bad things.


Oh yeah! If you ask any dane you will get exactly the same story I just told you guys. It's terrible and nothing you can do about it unfortunatly  Sad
 
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:08 pm

Having been all over the Western United States as recently as three weeks ago, I never really felt safe in the small logging villages like Susanville or Roseburg. I had to spend the night in Oakland near Golden Gate Field once. That was cool. I actually left the truck there and took BART into San Francisco. Never felt threatened and the truck remained in one piece. I never spent much time in Los Angeles but when I did, the people were always nice. Salt Lake City was just wierd. Mormons vs. Homeless made for an eerie scene. I did feel out of place in Denver. The one drunk guy did make me feel threatened. Overall, I have felt safe in the big cities in the West.

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Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:19 pm

Don't forget about the classic "America's Most Loveable Cities" list from The Simpsons:

296. Flint, MI
297. Ebola, RI
298. Dawson's Creek, NC
299. Springfield, USA
300. East St. Louis, IL

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Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:27 pm

What is that? I found "Montcuq" but I never heard about this town? Maybe you meant "mon cul"?? That's where you live?

The bus stop in Montcuq is quite famous. (L'arret de Montcuq).

http://www.montcuq.com
 
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:44 pm

Prosimtec, you hit the nail on the head. I think the word corruption should be defined as "See Detroit City Management". With the exception of maybe Dennis Archer (even he had enough common sense to leave), Detroit hasn't seen an honest mayor since long before Coleman Young. I left Detroit a little over 4 years ago but I still read the Freep on line and I see Kwame had the balls to say that people in every state in the country talk about Detroit in a positive manner (he probably heard someone say they were positive they'd never want to live there). This from the same guy who had a police officer fired for blowing the whistle on corruption in the mayor's office (litigation by the former officer is in progress). It's an embarrassment for me to tell people I work with here in the L.A. area that I used to work for the City of Detroit.

Detroit is what, the 7th or 8th largest city in the country? Yet, when you compare it to other large cities....New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Houston, Phoenix...etc....you rarely, if ever, find someone who vacations or even visits Detroit unless they're there on business or have family there.

Dtwclipper, you're not serious about the freeways being one reason you stay in Detroit, are you? Whenever I want to relive the experience of driving down 94 or 75 (The Fisher Freeway) I just go to a parking lot out here and drive over some parking blocks. And 696, even though it isn't in the city, is such a fire trap that tankers hauling gasoline are forbidden from using it.

Your loyalty to the city is commendable, however. Detroit has the potential of being a tourist attraction equivalent to that of Chicago but, for starters, until the corruption in the mayor's office and the police department is cleaned up, the city will continue to depreciate and will never achieve anything but being a place to avoid.
 
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:24 pm

In the US, I always heard Oakland, CA (Raiders Nation) was the most Most Dangerous City In America?

Yeah, I also remember hearing stories on how dangerous Oakland, CA is. I was surprised to see it wasn't on the top 5 list.
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Fri Nov 26, 2004 12:54 am

"...you rarely, if ever, find someone who vacations or even visits Detroit..."
Hmmm, guess Greenfield Village/Henry Ford Museum (now 'The Henry Ford') doesn't count as one of the most-visted attractions in the USA anymore, or we aren't counting the million+ (many nationwide and even worldwide) visitors to the annual Woodward Cruise and tens of thousands to the annual auto shows, etc?

Seriously, though, I've seen Detroit decay in my four decades of working in neighboring Dearborn, Warren, and Auburn Hills and must agree that it is the primary result of Detroit (criminal) politics as mentioned above. Sadly, it's a function of the locals voting-in their candidates based on race rather than qualification, and although I had observed former Mayor Dennis Archer with a good degree of respect, I believe he was saddled by an entrenched political underground that hurt his performance dearly. Additionally, I was hoping good things from current Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, but I was smokescreened (as many others were).

Although I have left the area, I still wish it the best. I also think that any large metropolis will have it's crime problems; more people often = more good people but also often = more bad people. It's a function of mathematics that isn't limited to the "most dangerous cities" but is found almost everywhere. Perhaps some cities on the list are getting a bit more of a bad rap than they deserve even if the math supports the list. Regards...jack.



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Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:05 am

England's three most dangerous cities are probably are:

1) Leeds
2) Birmingham
3) Bradford

In no particular order.

Oldham seems to have seen its fair share of problems too. Is any city in the UK not dangerous?

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Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:11 am

In Australia my top 5 picks would have to be...
1) Redfern
2) Broadmeadows
3) Redbank
4) Kings Cross
5) Footscray

Not an informed opinion just a general idea
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Fri Nov 26, 2004 7:09 am

I too detest Detroit, although the rest of Michigan is quite lovely. I go to Detroit once a year, and that's to see the North America International Auto Show. If it wasn't for that, I'd never go to Detroit for any reason. There are far too many other cities with way more to offer, that are much more safe.
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Fri Nov 26, 2004 8:03 am

"In Denmark you have to look out for:

1.Vollsmose(Part of Odense)
2.Blågården(Part of Copenhagen)
3.Gjellerupparken(Part of Århus)

Unfortunatly we have alot of problems with 2.generation foreigners who commites crime all the time in those places. Not even the Buses goes thru those neighbourhoods anymore after so many busdrivers has gotten their ass kicked and robbed.

And the Ambulance and Firebrigade does not enter that area without police protection. A couple of years ago a paramedic got hurt badly after a idiot threw a brick in his face. And the firetrucks are being bombarded by bricks and rocks as well."


I travel to Copenhagen roughly twice per year, and have spent a fair bit of time there and in other parts of Denmark. Indeed, the 2nd generation
_ _ _ _ _ are indeed a growing, and quite serious problem re violence/crime.

But, if I may (and many of my Dane friends agree with me) Denmark itself has to take a fair share of the blame here, as it is not a country which is exactly known to roll out the welcome mat for foreigners. The top jobs in Denmark, with few exceptions, go to Danes of Dane blood. The 2nd generation of a certain race know very well their prospects in Denmark are very low, thanks to the blatant discrimination against them. The younger generations, with no incentive or initiative, have a very low ceiling re career and quality of life. Of course, it takes two to tango, and the 1rst and 2nd generations don't exactly help the situation. In short, it's a viscious circle and cycle there.




 
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Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:19 am

Hmmm, guess Greenfield Village/Henry Ford Museum (now 'The Henry Ford') doesn't count as one of the most-visted attractions in the USA anymore, or we aren't counting the million+ (many nationwide and even worldwide) visitors to the annual Woodward Cruise and tens of thousands to the annual auto shows, etc?

C'mon.....to say people travel to Detroit solely to visit Greenfield Village, which by the way, isn't in Detroit, is like saying people travel to Detroit to visit Greek Town or to see the Lions play. It's something to do while you are there for other reasons. The same applies, I believe, to the North American Auto Show. Something to do if it happens to be occurring while in Detroit on other business. I'm not saying you won't find the occasional car buff or two who do travel to Detroit for the auto show but they are definitely in the minority.

I notice you didn't mention the annual Freedom Festival fireworks display at Hart Plaza as being a tourist attraction. Could that be due to the shooting of 9 people at last year's event and the arrest (and subsequent release) of an innocent person by what has become an inept police department?

As for the Dream Cruise, the last time I checked, it ended at Ferndale or, more specifically 8 Mile Road, and doesn't venture into Detroit. Hmmmmm, now why do you think that is? Speaking of the DC, it's turning into such a headache for the cities that have participated in years past, some are considering pulling out. The most recent of which is Birmingham which would put a major crimp in the cruise being that, geographically speaking, Birmingham is just about smack dab in the middle of the event.

I meant to add that I take no pleasure in bad mouthing Detroit. I gave the city 8 years of my professional life but until the city administrators get serious about cleaning up the corruption and the streets, adding a few nice buiildings here and there won't do a thing to change the image Detroit has created for itself.

[Edited 2004-11-26 01:36:22]
 
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Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:23 am

I did a quick google on murder rates and found Washington DC had a rate of 45 per 100,000 residents. Detroit was a close second, and these are 2002 figures. The national average for the US was about 7 per 100,000.
 
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Fri Nov 26, 2004 11:09 am

A quick census check shows Camden to be 53% black. Is this the blackest large city in the U.S.?
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Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:42 pm

Itsjustme...your point is well taken that the Greenfield Village venue is in Dearborn and not Detroit proper, however a majority of the yearly 1.5 million visitors (2002 stats) are from out-state or international with the attraction as their main purpose of visiting. Similar stats (out-state and out of Detroit-metro area) go for the Dream Cruise, but again, you are correct in noting the event starts at the adjoining city limits. Of course, the bordering cemetary and disgruntled Palmer Park residents on one side and decaying businesses on the other side of Woodward as it enters into Detroit have much to do with the Cruise 'Limits'.

Any nutball can go berserko anywhere (re: the wounding of 9 at the Detroit fireworks vs. the killing of 6 in a deer blind this week in Wisconsin); altho Detroit has it's big-time bad events, it's far less typical than publicity would lead the casual observer to believe. You are right again, however, that it's the city officials unique combination of ineptidude, racism and downright corruption that has been key in holding back the restructuring of a once great city recognized worldwide. I moved my residence from the old and quite nice LaSalle Gardens area in Detroit proper to Dearborn soon after the 1967 riots for these reasons and was never regretful, although I still feel strongly that a good majority of Detroit residents carry an undeserved reputation. Regards...Jack
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Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:12 pm

what about baltimore,md ive been there a few times and well, kinda got scared near inner harbor at night where is it in ranks?

and about the denmark question, where are these second generation ppl originally from?
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Sat Nov 27, 2004 7:38 am

The most dangerous part of cleveland is east cleveland, which is a suburb of cleveland, so it's not included, though some specific projects or small parts of cleveland are more dangerous than EC, but not on the whole.

A couple weeks ago EC tried to get themselves incorporated into cleveland, but cleveland of all places doesn't want them, as it would just drain tax money (EC just layed off more officers sadly, you can now get away with anything as long as it doesnt involve a gun, I've gone there and run red lights right in front of cops with no ill consequences, they're is just too few of them, that they can't have 2 at one traffic stop) , and give cleveland officials more headaches.

What used to be a mixed suburb of middle income families, is now through government corruption, some of the worst ghetto in Ohio.
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Sat Nov 27, 2004 3:26 pm

Detroit will always be a Sh**hole, it's no surprise. But I thought Compton, CA would be up in the top 3 as well.
 
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Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:12 pm

Yeah, Redfern in Sydney, specifically Eveleigh Street. It's an Aboriginal slum area only 2 minutes from the city by train. Lots of crime, drug use, drunkeness, the occasional riot and so on. To give you an indication, an inner city house would set you back $700,000. In Eveleigh Street, you can pick up houses of the same size for $280,000.

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Sat Nov 27, 2004 9:02 pm

Cptkrell.......you are most definitely correct in that the vast majority of Detroit residents bear the illdeserved reputation the likes of a few have earned the city. Whenever I get back home to visit friends and family, I try and stop by my old precinct to see what's changed and, unfortunately, things continue to depreciate. Ironically, a lot of the same residents I came to know when I worked there still reside there and maintain a refreshing upbeat hope for the city's outlook. One area of the city that is especially sad to visit is Palmer Park, near 7 mile and Woodward. I remember when those houses and that neighborhood were immaculate which, unfortunately, isn't the case today.

Maybe with the MLB all-star game in 05 and the return of the Super Bowl in 06 , Detroit can begin a rejuvenation period. Now, if we can just get Hockey back on it's feet...
 
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Sat Nov 27, 2004 9:03 pm

The list indicated Fairbanks, Alaska is #4. I'm not sure where they got the information to produce this list, but I gotta tell ya, someone is full of sh!nola! Fairbanks, Alaska! C'mon folks . . . . all of up here in Alaska are still laughing at this one! Absolutely absurd. Nope, before anyone asks, I don't live there and don't particularly care for the place, but I visit there often . . . . about as dangerous as a glob of silly putty.
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Sat Nov 27, 2004 9:19 pm

hey classic, wasnt there a recent uproar of Aboriginies, in the NE of Australia? where some police had to be flown in, had to news on but was flicking by, something about someone dying in custody?

that's scary when a city needs police flown in!!
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 2:45 am

Actually they only include inner city Atlanta for the crime count which is unfair (much as it is for Detroit). In a city of 4.5 million people the statistics only include the 400,000 that actually live within city limits. If one were to include the entirety of metro Atlanta the crime rate would drop drastically. And actually Atlanta was named one of the top ten places to live last year statistically speaking.

Sleekjet: Inner city Atlanta is 64% African American.
 
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 3:24 am

San Andreas gets my vote....
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 5:39 am

Atlanta, definitely Atlanta is the most dangerous one.
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 7:53 am

Since we are talking about America, I think the most dangerous city could be Rio de Janeiro.
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RE: Most Dangerous City In America.

Mon Nov 29, 2004 12:48 am

I think what Detroit really needs is a mayor that is will to do the serious work of reforming everything about the city, just like what former Mayor Rudolf A. Giuliani did to New York City in the 1990's. What Giuliani helped do almost every borough of NYC is nothing short of amazing.

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