So wait...you are Palestinian...and you kill people? Because you sure use "us" alot.
Nice smartass comment there. How about answering to something relevant to the post? And "us" refers to the Palestinian people.
Then you have selective memory, because such things have been condemened on this board more than once. But we never hear a peep of how horrible it, from some who sympathize with the terrorists, when they blow someone up or a bus.
Search the archives, Falcon, then talk about selective memory. Call me a sympathiser, I dont give. And yes, they have been condemned, but not by you or your buddy RJ
. I still dont see you condeming the murder of 13 year old.
You need to learn sarcasm. But yes, some of them actually believe that crap, and you know they do. It's a sad commentary on the Arab world when young people are being fed this garbage by a few hate-filled control freaks, who themselves have no desire to die for anything.
And you need to get more educated in these manners. Igonarance is bliss..
So tell me, would they believe this stuff if they werent desperate? Again, would they resort to such things if it wasnt for Israels cruelty?
Yes, damn it, I do!! Maybe if your people started to apologize for suicide bombers who blow up women, children, teenagers-anyone-with themselves, maybe peace might have a chance.
Give me one good reason why we should apologise to the same people who stuck these people in refugee camps, and who continue to kill our children every day? It is the same to us as it is to you guys apologising to the crew of Mos'ab al Zarqawi or the Fallujah insurgents. These people are the ones killing us and denying us a normal life, why the hell should we start saying sorry if these things wouldn't have happened in the first place if it wasn't for Israel?
if YOU apologized for the 50 years of war you've waged against these people, you might get an apology for actions by Israeli's that are intolerable and disgusting.
Very easy to make a comment like that. We have waged war, eh? Who was it that took our land in 1948? who was it that immigrated to our homeland? And who is it that commited countless acts of violence against Arabs since pre-48, and still continues to go on the track of violence? And why do you conveniantly foget those refugees who have lost their identity and land because of those you defend so much. Consider the other side Falcon.
you might get an apology for actions by Israeli's that are intolerable and disgusting. But your mindset just continues the cycle of violence.
A cycle involves more than one factor. One is us. The other is them.
By your statement, you justify terrorism, and that disgusts me.
Oh yes, the good old "if your not with us your against us" psychology. Isn't this something that came from the person you do not support, GWB? Surprised to see such an open minded liberal say this.
Maybe you people-Jew and Arab alike, need to start doing some soul searching, instead of playing chicken on seeing who will blink first. Be a man, and maybe lead the way to a new era, instead of justifying the old era.
My friend, of all people, dont give Palestinians classes on how to be men. The world's most obese nation where the average 15 year old is too busy getting pissed out of his mind should not compare manhood with the 15 year olds of Palestine who are living in a war torn country, and are experiencing things you will never even witness.
Maybe if you do apologize, and then the Israeli's do, a lot of people won't have to die. Did THAT ever cross your mind.
That has crossed my mind, but it is not that simple. You do not apologise to someone who has harmed you so much just like that, Falcon.
I have to agree with Falcon here. We actually never hear any condemnations from some of the members in here when it happens. I have noticed it my self several times.
You really want to know why I dont condemn this, especially on these boards? All you people with 100% perfect memory, search it and think about how many "nuke the bastards", "turn it into one big glass factory", "lets turn the West Bank into a resort" sorta threads came up. Nobody apologised to us then. On the other hand. When Israel does anything, nobody cares. Is this fair?
Uh huh. QR and BA also "get pissed" at the rest of the Arabs. Yet they constantly attack Israel rather than deal with their own people. You are no different, from your posts anyway.
No I dont. I never said I do. I said I dont support these actions, but that does mean I get pissed with the Arabs.
and it is NOT common practice.
With that statement, you prove, like time and time again, how much of an idiot you are.
But those checkpoints are 110% necessary and will not be going anywhere until the Palestinians get their act together.
Wake up. They've been there since before Oslo.
He wasn't physically forced to play. He could have turned around for all he liked.
And the IDF would have done nothing
THERE IS NO MORAL EQUIVICANCY.
Your right. The Arab freedom fighters are on a much higher level.
and the suicide bombings would keep coming no matter what.
and you know it. The suicide bombings happen for a reason.
With all due respect, it is incredibly easy for you to accuse us of being fed from the media, but where the hell do you get your crap from? Media is media. They are all biased in one way or the other. Don't play the superior card with us.
The 96% of the world that does not live in the US seems to agree that the US media has a bias like no other place though. I have friends living in the US and my parents have visited the US several times, they even used to live there, so I am informed about the US media.
Of course that was horrible and they will be punished for their actions.
I'm surprsied you haven't accused her of being a potential suicide bomber.
QR, you know as well as I do that Palestinians like to blow themselves up in Israel. Restricting Palestinian movement and searching them has helped cut down on the number of suicide bombings. I know how much that pains you but get over it.
What pains me is seeing Israelis getting away with crimes (not the violin, the other events). Do you talk out of your ass, RJ
? I am not talking about the checkpoints, I am talking about the forcing of the guy to play the violin.
LOL. No need to translate; the sentence was perfectly clear. Perhaps ask BA or somebody else to explain what it meant.
And here I was thinking the first language of America was English...
Tell me the truth QR. Do you really think that Israel goes through all of this trouble just to make life hard for Palestinians?
I'll answer it by asking you a question. Do you think their going through all of this, and have been doing so since God knows when, just to improve the security of their people?
it is SCREWED UP that you care more about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict than you do about rights in your own country
Unfortunatley, I am not Egyptian. And homosexual rights are not exactly what we need to care about in the Mideast right now. On the other hand, I am PALESTINIAN. Now, this is the Israeli-PALESTINIAN conflict. Do you want to work it out, or do you want me to spell it out? Do you think I will care more about gay rights in Egypt, when I am not Egyptian, or the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, when it concerns me much more? Also, you want to talk about rights in the West Bank?! Dont get me started, your Israeli buddies are doing a great job at supressing them.
It is quite weird that BA cares more about the Israeli occupation than about the Syrian occupation of Lebanon.
So? I dunno what it is with you and getting at BA
today, but considering he is part Palestinian, his interest in the matter is understandable. Also, the conflict is much more important than Syrian troops in Lebanon, the country is a very stable one with rights for all, while Palestine is raveged by war and is occupied.
If Arabs cared less about Israel, and more about improving their own societies, your corner of the earth wouldn't be the hot bed of war that it is today.
The hot bed of war? Fantasy land again. On last count we had, hmmm, 1, 2... yes, TWO wars! now, the first has been going on for 56 years, the second started last year. I can't remember the reason, but WMDs rings a bell...
In other words, there is one war which has been going on for a long time, and the other for one year and was started by your country men for no apparent reason. If your such an expert on Arab societies and how they are developing, haul your ass over here, take a look at them, then tell me this bullshit. But until you do that, don't teach a person actually living in the Arab world this crap.
They hated it before and they'll hate it after. You can't not act in response to terror because you are afraid of pissing more people off. Obviously, if you HAVE to respond to terror, they already hate you
They will continue to hate you. As long as Israel keeps up what its doing, the hatred won't go away. When these checkpoints were set up, they were not responding to terror, they were to protect the illegal settlements from angry people who had their land stolen from them so some immigrant can live there. I dunno about you, but any other person might get a bit ticked of with that. These checkpoints are not a spawn of the suicide bombings as you like to say.
Palestinians used to be able to move freely and could walk right into Israel before boarding a bus and blowing themselves up.
Did they? Thanks for informing me. Last I knew they could not even enter Jerusalem without a VIP pass or if they werent residents of the city, they weren't able to enter Israel without a huge hassle, and they were still treated like dirt. Israel has always been inconsiderate to the Palestinians, long before the first bus was blown up.
Why do you think there haven't been that many suicide bombings in the past few months?
Doesnt take a genius to figure that one out. Your point?
With all due respect QR, on previous occasions you have said that you would have supported the destruction of Israel in 1967, which basically means that a few million Jews would have been slaughtered, another Holocaust......
Let me get this straight. I said I would have supported it prior to 1967, because these people took MY
country, and this means I want to see a few million Jews slaughtered? So tell me RJ
, if Arabs invaded big areas of America today and created a state in the place of the West Coast, you would not want its destruction? Please show me where I supported "another Holocaust".
Don't worry. I'm sure Ariel Sharon isn't too busy having affairs with teenage boys and contracting HIV.
I love people who believe everything they read in chain emails.
The most disturbing thing is that the Israeli right wing was more incensed at this violin incident than it was at images of a 13 year old child being pumped full of bullets by a mad man.
Thank you God. Someone finally sees what people can't grasp.
"The greatest threat to knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."