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Almost Got Caught By One Of Those Speed Camerhaas

Tue Dec 07, 2004 6:07 pm

So here I am this morning, driving from the movers office to my job. I get on an expressway, where the speed is limited to 90 kph, and as I am a bit in a hurry, I inadvertedly speed up to 110. Then suddenly I remember that they have installed one of those automated speed camera somewhere along that portion of expressway... very sensitive models. So obviously I brake down to 80, while trying to establish visual contact with the rhaadar (as we call them here). Sure enough, I see a bright flash of light about 200 m in front of me.

Was it for me, was it not ? I was not sure, because I was not the only car on the road.

However, I had noticed something : in France, the law allowing for those automated radars states that the drivers have to be aware of the aforementioned rhaadar. Which means a sign has to be posted a few hundred meters *before* the radar. I new the sign had been posted for that one (had seen it last Saturday). But this morning, I had not noticed it.

Now, I always notice those signs. They are huge and obvious. Why had I not noticed it ? I actually drove back 5 km to re-drive that portion of road, and that confirmed my suspicions. The sign is there alright. But it is located *before* the place where I entered the expressway. No way for the driver to be aware of the upcoming camerhaa.

On a lighter note, I also checked that the camera was placed to shoot the rear of the car, not the front. Which means the flash was not for me. *That* is a relief.

Cheers,

707
 
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RE: Almost Got Caught By One Of Those Speed Camerh

Tue Dec 07, 2004 6:09 pm

Given the number of citations you got this year, you should set up a direct debit directly to the Ministry of the Interior Big grin

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RE: Almost Got Caught By One Of Those Speed Camerhaas

Tue Dec 07, 2004 6:32 pm

You shouldnt have been speeding like a flying Rhaat should you?  Wink/being sarcastic
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RE: Almost Got Caught By One Of Those Speed Camerhaas

Tue Dec 07, 2004 10:15 pm

Lucky you have to be warned, here they go out of their way to hide them, I have seen them mounted inside pickup trucks, under the open bonnet of a "broken down" vehicle parked at the side of the road, up on bridges, even hidden behind a little conifer in a pot!

I don't know about in the US but the camera speed traps used in the UK are made by Truvelo, a South African company....sorry guys  Smile

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707CMF
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RE: Almost Got Caught By One Of Those Speed Camerh

Wed Dec 08, 2004 12:21 am

Well, I was going just a tad fast, but that is not really the issue, is it ?

The problem I see is that this camera does not comply with the regulations.

Cheers,

707
 
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RE: Almost Got Caught By One Of Those Speed Camerh

Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:07 am

On a lighter note, I also checked that the camera was placed to shoot the rear of the car, not the front. Which means the flash was not for me. *That* is a relief.

Fool this obviously means that rhaadar was meant to catch the offender coming towards you, which explains why you did not see any sign indicating the presence of the aforementioned rhaadar on your side of the road.

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RE: Almost Got Caught By One Of Those Speed Camerh

Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:21 am

Fool this obviously means that rhaadar was meant to catch the offender coming towards you, which explains why you did not see any sign indicating the presence of the aforementioned rhaadar on your side of the road.

ROTFLMAO, just picturing the offender going towards me...

The rhaadar has been placed on the VRU... do you now laugh as well ?

cheers,

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RE: Almost Got Caught By One Of Those Speed Camerh

Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:23 am

The rhaadar has been placed on the VRU... do you now laugh as well ?

Given that my Elbonian vehicle has a 97-D-something reg, I am indeed DOTMLMAO.

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RE: Almost Got Caught By One Of Those Speed Camerhaas

Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:46 am

Well, I was going just a tad fast, but that is not really the issue, is it ?
When you know someone who was killed by a speeding driver, you might think twice about ignoring the speed limit. The limits are there for a reason.
 
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RE: Almost Got Caught By One Of Those Speed Camerhaas

Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:58 am

Here in DC area we have them on the smaller streets and intersections.
I am a victim of intersection "red light" camera. When you cross intersection on the yellow light and you if you haven't pass the street then it will take picture of your car. Acctualy 3 pictures. First one on the intersection with the speed, time and visible yellow light. Second picture of your car still in the intersection and the red light visible. And the third picture is a close up shot of your registration plate  Smile It cost $75 but it doesn't count against your driving record.
Speeding radars are mounted on the streets with speed limits between 25 and 45 miles per hour. The well known radar camera is mounted next to Gravelly Point, right next to entrance to this spotting location. It will take picture if you are going 19 miles over posted speed limit, so in this case you will get picture if you are driving 64mph. And the fine for it is $150.
To my knowledge, there are no speeding cameras on Interstates in USA. All of this is done manualy by damned troopers. (I am also a victim of this thing - I was cought 5 times hehehe)

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RE: Almost Got Caught By One Of Those Speed Camerh

Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:07 am

Here in Arizona, we don't use automated radars. Tucson and Phoenix do employ red light cameras at some intersections. Speed enforcement is only performed with manned radar or laser units. Some of them are in marked patrol units, but the Pima County Sheriff's Department also uses several unmarked patrol units that are in factory paint. My observations are that many of the units employ handheld radar or lasser units, though built in units are becoming quite popular. When I lived in Tennessee, I noted that the Tennessee Highway Patrol was outiftting its cars with dual radar/laser antennaes permanently mounted. The trooper could switch from one antennae to the other just by throwing the switch on the control unit. That would allow them to shoot cars either ahead or to the rear, moving or not. Also, a number of railroads have taken to mounting cameras at signalled railroad crossings that have high incident rates. The cameras only turn on when the signals are activated and are tied in to the local police station. Once a day, the police pull the video and send out the violation notices to the offenders. Here in Arizona, the penalty for running a railroad crossing signal or blocking a railroad crossing is $250.
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RE: Almost Got Caught By One Of Those Speed Camerhaas

Wed Dec 08, 2004 10:49 am

57AZ

Paradise Valley, Scottsdale,and Tempe police departments all use photo radar vans. They park on the side of the road and if you speed past them, they take pictures. I believe one of your license plate and one of your face. The Paradise Valley ones you can usually find on Tatum Boulevard during weekdays.

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RE: Almost Got Caught By One Of Those Speed Camerhaas

Wed Dec 08, 2004 12:13 pm

57AZ, Cactus739, We also have speed radar that's permanent. Two places in Scottsdale, others may be added. I pass this thing every day on the way to work. During the first week after they installed it, it was going off like a damn strobe ligh.  Laugh out loud

oh ya, FYI. It's on Frank Lloyd Wright and the 101. Just so you know. Big grin

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RE: Almost Got Caught By One Of Those Speed Camerhaas

Wed Dec 08, 2004 12:43 pm

Question for you UTA (or any other European colleagues):

Since you have an Irish registration (and I presume you now live in France) if you were caught by the speed camerhaas would you be found? Do they do any cross-checks with other nations? (In your case Ireland). Is there any case where they do cross-checks? Perhaps neighboring nations like France and Germany or Belgium.

Just curious about this, thanks for the info.
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RE: Almost Got Caught By One Of Those Speed Camerhaas

Wed Dec 08, 2004 12:44 pm

I have seen the signs for the automated speed camers in the southern sections of the UK, and was fortunate not to get a Kodak moment. Here in New Jersey (USA), the state banned the use of automated photo speed camera radar and conflicts with our State's constitution (and probably to protect the jobs of the State Police!). One idea I have seen used in the USA, especially here in New Jersey are unmanned speed radar units that are mounted on a small trailer, parked on the side of the road, but insteading of collecting evidence of speeding, they display on a large sign with a digital display the speed you were going. They are commonly used like on secondary roads where people often go 15-20+ over the speed limit, especially near schools, shopping districts where high rates of accidents have occured and to 'remind' drivers to slow down.

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