Matt D
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Substandard Treatment For Single Guys?

Sat Dec 11, 2004 10:00 am

I have long suspected it, and now I'm pretty convinced of it. Single guys (race/nationality irrelevant) get worse treatment than couples and single women.

Does anyone know why?

Most single women on the other hand, have it fairly easy compared to men. It is they that all the single men flock to! A single woman could, if she played her cards right never have to pay for anything again. I guess it's the whole "beaver" or "mating call" thing.

Now us guys on the other hand, that's a whole other issue.

I decided to test this theory over the last few months.

First, I went to the Hallmark card store and paid much closer attention to the selection of cards than I normally do. Just in birthday cards, this is what I found:

44 "from both of us"
19 "from your daughter/wife"
..and only 6 "from your son/husband" cards.

Next, I wanted to actually study my existence in public. I took Jen to three different restaurants. When it was her and I, we were treated with courtesy, friendliness, seated and served fairly quickly.

I went to the same three places, on the same night of the week, at about the same time-but this time-by myself.

Every time, the time it took for me to be seated was double. In one case, 20 minutes. When I explained to the hostess that I was a party of 1, she kind of sneered at me. And I got stuck with a really rude waitress who got my order wrong and let my drink run dry three times. I guess one loser lonely guy is not going to spend all that much, so there is no incentive to serve him.

Whenever Jen and I go somewhere and there are small children around, they come up to us, say hi, giggle, laugh, and try to play. And the parents are sitting right there smiling along.

When I was by myself, the parents would tell there kids to stay away and "leave that man alone" and gave me some not-so-friendly glances.

So what's the deal? Are single men labelled in the minds of others as stalkers, perverts, serial killers, losers, or all of the above?

But as long as there is a woman with him, that very same guy is an "acceptable, decent family man"?

I find this behavior in people somewhat contradictory to the prevailing cultural climate which glorifies (subtly, if not blatantly) promiscuity, self independance, and the bachelor(ette) life.
 
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RE: Substandard Treatment For Single Guys?

Sat Dec 11, 2004 10:02 am

You sir, are a smart guy.
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RE: Substandard Treatment For Single Guys?

Sat Dec 11, 2004 10:07 am

Single men always get screwed in pretty much everything.
 
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RE: Substandard Treatment For Single Guys?

Sat Dec 11, 2004 10:09 am

So what your saying is if a girl/woman is single then everyone loves her, but if its a guy noone cares..
lol I learnt that a long time ago..because guys are after "one" thing usually, whereas girls/women go for more sensitive/caring guys (I know its stereotypical but its true mostly..a girl/woman doesnt want to be with someone who's going to beat her up is she.)

I look at it in this way..you meet a girl, give here everything you have..house/car/money etc and she gives you back her "body" in return.
Whereas if you stay single you get to keep all the money/house etc for yourself, i mean if you cant live like that it means ur only after "one thing" if this makes sense.

I dont know, its all down to one thing at the end of the day, but you shouldnt let it "run" your life..Ive been single for ages now (have the occasional flirt) but I enjoy keeping the money to myself and spending it all on ME lol.
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RE: Substandard Treatment For Single Guys?

Sat Dec 11, 2004 10:24 am

Matt D, hear what you are talking about.
It's another reason why I use www.nomarriage.com as my Bible.

He talks about us single guys being labelled 'losers'.
That term should be taken as a compliment. Loser is woman talk is a men that's smart enough to know whats best for him as an individual and pursues it. There are many married men that had there balls chopped off once they got married and will actually defend 'the sanctity of marriage'.

It's a shame that a bachelor can no longer get elected President of the United States. We have slid so far the right that the 'family values' crowd would go nuts.
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RE: Substandard Treatment For Single Guys?

Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:49 pm

my theories as to why this behaviour goes...


as a single guy....

another woman: Will look at you and think, hmm, he is single, he probably hasnt been able to get someone....so that is one reason for the treatment. The second reason is that i think women see single men as if the men wanted them, and treat them bad...they fantasize as if all men want them.

Other people: look at ur age and if ur single, try to make up a reason in their heads to comfort themselves, and unfortuantely they concur that somehow being married is good, abiding, and caring/sweet... so you get labelled....
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RE: Substandard Treatment For Single Guys?

Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:50 pm

Great, another group who wants to be seen as a "victim". Just great.
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Matt D
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RE: Substandard Treatment For Single Guys?

Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:54 pm

Falcon.....stuff a sock in it and let it go, wouldja?

Nobody is claiming victim over anything. Not even me, especially since I'm not even single. It is simply an observation and I'm looking to see if it's a valid one.
 
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RE: Substandard Treatment For Single Guys?

Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:54 pm

it's even worse as a single parent.
 
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RE: Substandard Treatment For Single Guys?

Sat Dec 11, 2004 12:59 pm

MattD, I'm not buying it. 'Nuff said.
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Matt D
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RE: Substandard Treatment For Single Guys?

Sat Dec 11, 2004 1:05 pm

Fine. You put your $.02 in. Move on to the next topic and let the rest of us discuss this one.
 
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RE: Substandard Treatment For Single Guys?

Sat Dec 11, 2004 1:09 pm

Here's that sock back, MattD, so you can stick it.

You've always had a tendancy to blame women, or to show men, especially white males as a victim, and I think it's absure.

And I'll discuss it if I want, so don't even go there.  Smile
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RE: Substandard Treatment For Single Guys?

Sat Dec 11, 2004 1:12 pm

In that I am going through an ugly divorce, being a single man looks like a drink of water three days into the Mojave; like a rope in a snow drift on the Himalayas; like a beer offered by a voluptuous barmaid in a packed nightclub. Get over it. Things always look greener...

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RE: Substandard Treatment For Single Guys?

Sat Dec 11, 2004 1:23 pm

Most single women on the other hand, have it fairly easy compared to men. It is they that all the single men flock to! A single woman could, if she played her cards right never have to pay for anything again. I guess it's the whole "beaver" or "mating call" thing.

That all depends on how attractive she is! Sliding scale based on physical attractiveness.

I've always been single, probably always will be, as women pretty much hate me for some reason, I REPEL women.

Personally, I've never experienced this myself. I usually go to the same places for happy hour and then the Mexican place down the street, and since I tip pretty well there, they are glad to see me and give me great service.

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RE: Substandard Treatment For Single Guys?

Sat Dec 11, 2004 2:02 pm

I have a follow up question to this:

Why do women always go for the involved guy and never the single one or is that if when you are involved you just tend to notice that more than when you are single.
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RE: Substandard Treatment For Single Guys?

Sat Dec 11, 2004 2:32 pm

Star: It is a well documented reality that women are generally more friendly to involved guys, since they "know" they are not an immediate threat.

That said, having a chick on your arm is no guarantee of success. Not only to the girl on your arm, nor to the brunette with those sultry eyes in the smoky corner.

Be yourself; find a compatriot. Then, no matter what, you'll be happy (I hope).

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RE: Substandard Treatment For Single Guys?

Sat Dec 11, 2004 2:54 pm

I went to the Hallmark card store and paid much closer attention to the selection of cards than I normally do. Just in birthday cards, this is what I found:
44 "from both of us"
19 "from your daughter/wife"
..and only 6 "from your son/husband" cards.


What you saw probably reflects card-buying practices rather than any discrimination per se. Women are much more into card buying than are men, and no doubt want a greater selection.
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RE: Substandard Treatment For Single Guys?

Sat Dec 11, 2004 3:01 pm

You've always had a tendancy to blame women, or to show men, especially white males as a victim, and I think it's absure.

Alphiefalcie,

Did you even read Matt D's post? He's not at all trying to portray himself or anybody else as a victim. He's telling us a theory he has and what he's done in attempts to prove it right.

So may I ask, what is wrong with that?

And I'll discuss it if I want

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BTW, Matt D, excellent post, I've always thought the same sort of thing as you, but never bothered to test the theory out, so good job.



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RE: Substandard Treatment For Single Guys?

Sat Dec 11, 2004 3:17 pm

I'm chiming in....

MattD...good stuff, excellent post.

Falcon84.... shut the f*#k up..... leave.

Clickhappy....right on with that, watching what my bother goes through with his ex over his two kids is just painful....

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RE: Substandard Treatment For Single Guys?

Sat Dec 11, 2004 3:31 pm

I'm thinking of doing an experiment like that tomorrow.



I'm chiming in....

MattD...good stuff, excellent post.

Falcon84.... shut the f*#k up..... leave.





Man you almost made me spew water all over my desk with that remark.



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RE: Substandard Treatment For Single Guys?

Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:50 pm

January 20th, 2009 Can't Come Fast Enough!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

What Steaksauce, is that the anticipated date of your death? Well then, I can't wait for it either  Laugh out loud

I guess you can also say that day is another Republican victory celebration day....mark your calender you haven't purchased yet!

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RE: Substandard Treatment For Single Guys?

Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:55 pm

What you saw probably reflects card-buying practices rather than any discrimination per se. Women are much more into card buying than are men, and no doubt want a greater selection.

Agreed.....I buy a card in a store, oh, maybe twice a year. I usually like to print them at home, or just not have events that require such touchey-feelyness lol.

Why do women always go for the involved guy and never the single one or is that if when you are involved you just tend to notice that more than when you are single.

Same reason you do...it's something you can't have. Obviously they're semi-decent people if they're lucky enough to be with someone. That's why I like taking my sister out to dinner from time to time, or just another real good female friend....thennnn you get all the hotties lookin at ya Big grin

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